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KawaiiSaRiA 09-02-2001 11:13 AM

!
 
Graal is going down hill.

:grrr:

Admins 09-02-2001 11:24 AM

?

Lugie 09-02-2001 11:42 AM

BIGGGGG TIME

(edit)

just figured out lycia is ET admin again so make that a KINDA BIGGGGG TIME

konidias 09-02-2001 01:13 PM

Want to explain? Other than lycia holding yet another admin position, and the current ET admin being the worst we have ever had, I can't see why you would say Graal is going downhill..

All this stuff got added tonight and I could barely keep up.. I like the food and bottles :)

I got all the new hats, and the bombs from the zalactic labs quest.. once more jobs and stuff is added Graal will be even better.. So what do you mean it's going downhill?

evilive 09-02-2001 01:15 PM

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Oh yeah! Well... this will stop everything from going down!

KawaiiSaRiA 09-02-2001 01:53 PM

Well, if Stefan would check his E-mail and/or forum PMs for once, then I wouldn't have posted this thread. I do not wish to discuss the matter here. I want to talk things over with Stefan, but he never listens. Yes, before you ask, I can understand how busy he is and/or gets, but it's no excuse to ignore important matters such as this one. Stefan, if you keep hiring idiots, graal is bound to go downhill, I don't want to see that happen. Either you listen to me, or I take matters into my own hands.

KawaiiSaRiA 09-02-2001 01:56 PM

And Stefan, you also tell staff that you don't want to talk about "admin stuff" on graal, you tell us to send you a forum PM, or an E-mail, but I don't see any point in doing so. You always ignore the most important things.

((as you can tell, everyone, I am very upset))

Birdbird_0 09-03-2001 01:19 AM

Some of the newer staff with rcs, don't know how to do their job very well, they are hardly on and seem to ask questions more than answering them =/ just My Imput,

I wrote up this for level applications -
Level Maker Tryouts-

To be a level maker on Newmain you must demonstrate a number of qualities that must be present before you are allowed among the ranks of the elite level makers of graal2001. You must demonstrate that you have the abilities to be in our team, emotionally, and the obvious reason, the ability to make levels very well. If your application does not pass please do not complain about it, you simply need to improve on your style, and suggestions and tips will be included within your application response.

Requirements-

1.) The Ability to work with the other members of the team, including any staff outside of level maker.
2.) The obvious way that you present yourself, you will not be hired with an application such as “y0 I was jhend lAT on Fanshish and hed NaT/Ga?/LaT on matibia and I havea lot of good skloz d00d, please hire me cuse I was working thereeand I knowsss hows to dos levels cuses, kthx/ huire me?” – such language displays that you are not yet educated enough to write properly (this is a must when dealing with other players) or that you are to lazy to type properly, what every the condition might be, you should be able to type with an amount of correct grammar and spelling when dealing with players. Though, this condidtion is not a must, just as long as you do not type like “Hey dolodS liesk I ashds things iu made 4ukthx” that’s just, annoying ;-)
3.) Emotional Maturity- Though there is no true set age limit for Level Maker, because talent is not based on age, there is a maturity requirement, what you are told to do you do, though, you are assigned to do thing, you should not just walk around doing nothing, you report the status on your project and such. The way you act and behave as a level maker is important to your success and ability to work, remember that your actions do not only affect yourself, but the people around you.
4.) Tag Abuse- Though the level maker tag is not on the staff list, we ask that you do not mass message junk about selling/buying items on graal with this tag, this tag is to show people that you are in Level Maker, not just for show. The work you do is also important, you can not just sit around doing nothing with the tag, you have it for a reason, If you do not make levels or items for a while, 2-3 weeks, you will probably be drooped unless you have not been assigned anything, and remember, droops are circumstantial, The Head Level Maker should know the entire situation, and is fair, if the head level maker is not doing his job right, he will be removed.
5.) Talent- Talent is measured in many ways, Level makers are not confined to making levels alone, they can make gfx, gains, music, what ever they want, but it does not mean it will go up if it is not good enough. When you send in your application to [email protected] it is evaluated, Not everyone makes it, the requirements are tougher now, because there is not a huge need at the moment for level makers, Please do NOT message the person that checks all the applications, you will not get a response, you will get a response from the e-mail its self. Please, if you do not make it in, do not complain or go on a rampage and blame everyone else for your non-acceptance. You will not get in Level maker buy just being friends with admins, you must have what it takes.
6.) Misc. – Your behavior and talents will not only be measured in the e-mail, it will be measured in game, and in outside areas of graal if you contact an administrator. Once again, Proper grammar is a must.





Application-
Please answer these questions separated with a line (press enter) between each answer

1.) Why do you want to be a Level Maker?
2.) Do you think you have what it takes?
3.) What is your Background?
4.) Tell us about yourself
5.) Can you do more than just levels? If so, show some examples.

-To show your work

Please send attachments with the e-mail
Preferably, you upload .png versions of your levels to a site, giving links to them. (please do so if you can)

Send application to [email protected]

Please address the e-mail as in a letter form, with a “Dear headlevelmaker,”
Include your Account name, and Your Nick name along with the address, and expect an answer from the e-mail within 1-3 days. Remember, you can make it, if you have what it takes.


Remember that Level Maker is a job, not just a title, and you will be required to do that job. Thank you for your time, and we hope to see you on the team.



each Staff should be able to go though a 2 page application and explaination of their jobs, not just hiring them on the spot, seems a bit unfair to the other people.

Birdbird_0 09-03-2001 01:27 AM

All I am saying is that you need to hire more capable people, with a better system of hiring them, even though you are working on NewWorld more than graal, graal is still the foundation of NewWorld, and if Graal Fails, than so does nw.

Though there are a record amount of Players on graal, they depend on other players, witch is not very fun for over sea customers, and maybe we have forgoten that we are working for Paying customers, not just kids on a computor, even though they are still too young and nivive to stand up for what they payed for, I think we still have a huge commitment to them, that we are not fufilling.
Right now the staff situation gives NewMain a -Not very well run Bisness- tag, and that does not attract outside costermers. :( Somthing needs to be done.

Hulk Hogan 09-03-2001 01:52 AM

Re: !
 
Quote:

Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA
Graal is going down hill.

:grrr:

:rolleyes:

i'm speachless.

Admins 09-03-2001 01:59 AM

Sorry I only read emails one or two times
a week, it's not possible to check all few
minutes because it would keep me away from
work.

What admins are a problem? Actually we only
have the LAT which is officialy admin on Graal2001,
the others (ET, Police) are important too but need
to organize better

Hulk Hogan 09-03-2001 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Sorry I only read emails one or two times
a week, it's not possible to check all few
minutes because it would keep me away from
work.

What admins are a problem? Actually we only
have the LAT which is officialy admin on Graal2001,
the others (ET, Police) are important too but need
to organize better

Lyndzey is doing a good job organizing Police :-)

She tells us each day what we are in charge of....
Last night i was Events and TRades....:)

FatherDante 09-03-2001 02:25 AM

I don't see what there is to always be complaining about.

James205 09-03-2001 02:27 AM

I think I know what this is all about...

Birdbird_0 09-03-2001 03:28 AM

I am saying that one big update every 1-3 days is not attracting bisness, but players atract other playrers, and I am just saying, if we could do alot more in a shorther period of time, than it would attrack even more people.

konidias 09-03-2001 03:33 AM

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Yeah even little things like merlin and lamer warping up to the bomy only spot to get clear water. Abuse of ANY power makes me angry.. even if its minor things.. I have seen merlin using warpto to go anywhere he pleases :(

You are only supposed to use warpto for situations when you need to warp to a level to update it or something like that.. not to get clear water :(

Picture:

Admins 09-03-2001 04:03 AM

what is Merlins job?

cohn 09-03-2001 04:04 AM

ART admin or account reset admin.

konidias 09-03-2001 04:18 AM

Yes I see no reason for merlin to be using warpto.. why would he need it? He just resets accounts.. And I'm sure he has update level and many other things he doesnt need.

Hulk Hogan 09-03-2001 04:24 AM

too bad i dont have warpto Konidias.....

konidias 09-03-2001 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hulk Hogan
too bad i dont have warpto Konidias.....
So how did you get up there? Did you get merlin to warp you? Because you said you got stuck.. it would be impossible to get all the way up to the top unless you were warped.. the cliffs are too high to get "stuck" and fit through somehow

Hulk Hogan 09-03-2001 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias


So how did you get up there? Did you get merlin to warp you? Because you said you got stuck.. it would be impossible to get all the way up to the top unless you were warped.. the cliffs are too high to get "stuck" and fit through somehow

choo choooo train

KawaiiSaRiA 09-03-2001 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Sorry I only read emails one or two times
a week, it's not possible to check all few
minutes because it would keep me away from
work.

What admins are a problem? Actually we only
have the LAT which is officialy admin on Graal2001,
the others (ET, Police) are important too but need
to organize better

Beleive it or not, Stefan, NightLord is the problem. And guys, this has NOTHING to do with Lycia becoming events admin.

Hulk Hogan 09-03-2001 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA

Beleive it or not, Stefan, NightLord is the problem. And guys, this has NOTHING to do with Lycia becoming events admin.

Yes he is (edited) mean sometimes (edited)....he fired me oly because birdbird "made" more levels :( ...he isn't all bad though ....He has done alot for GRaal.

*edited* oh yeah Konidias i just read toalls saying birdbird warped on the mountain :eek: *edited*

evilive 09-03-2001 05:39 AM

Hey! Here's an idea for stress relief on Stefan...

Let the head of each department do thier job! That is, if they're trustworthy and can proove it...... Or we just need to find out how Geocities and them have FTP stuff and only a certain account can get to a certain place... hmmmm.. ah well

KawaiiSaRiA 09-03-2001 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by evilive
Hey! Here's an idea for stress relief on Stefan...

Let the head of each department do thier job! That is, if they're trustworthy and can proove it...... Or we just need to find out how Geocities and them have FTP stuff and only a certain account can get to a certain place... hmmmm.. ah well

HOW IN THE HELL ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT WHEN NIGHTLORD KEEPS TRYING TO TAKE OVER?!!?!
:grrr:
I'm sick of it.

Hulk Hogan 09-03-2001 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KawaiiSaRiA

HOW IN THE HELL ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT WHEN NIGHTLORD KEEPS TRYING TO TAKE OVER?!!?!
:grrr:
I'm sick of it.

yeah...just like how he fired me for no reason.....

thats like him (nightlord) firing you (Gonmon) just because someone makes more bomy graphics then you..Even though you were the bomy co-creator he still fires you only becuase someone makes more bomys then you. (just an example that isn't true).......:( i was like the second person in (Level Maker) but i got fired because "birdbird made more levels" then me :(!
it makes no sense and should not be tolerated.

Stefan you should give me my job back.

KawaiiSaRiA 09-03-2001 05:55 AM

Lamer, this is kinda not graal2001 staff-related...
I posted this thread for one reason, because I wanted a reply from Stefan. Now, I would really appreciate it Stefan, if we could talk things over sometime (on graal, or if you stall have it, ICQ...?)
and I'll tell you what all of this is about.

Hulk Hogan 09-03-2001 09:30 AM

sorry Saria!

oh yeah Nightlord is actually a pretty nice guy ;)

Birdbird_0 09-03-2001 10:30 AM

Loriel Asked me back in erliy june to be head level maker, I was for a while, till i left for something... but I quit that for the time being to work on graal, I contaclted NigtLord for a job, and he stuck me with that... Lamer got the job because he was the only level maker after fry was fired (after I left for a while), so Lamer got the job by the fualt, I am not saying that Lamer did a bad job, I think that NightLord hired me because he thought I was more capable, I had no say in it, I tryed to get a diffrent position :(
About the moutain thing, I warped with my police tag on below the small moutain becayse there were 4 people blocking the entrance and harrasing the bomys, they left after I came and gave them a warning,

why does everyone make ti so when I warp, they make a bad thing out of it :(?

Hulk Hogan 09-03-2001 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Loriel Asked me back in erliy june to be head level maker, I was for a while, till i left for something... but I quit that for the time being to work on graal, I contaclted NigtLord for a job, and he stuck me with that... Lamer got the job because he was the only level maker after fry was fired (after I left for a while), so Lamer got the job by the fualt, I am not saying that Lamer did a bad job, I think that NightLord hired me because he thought I was more capable, I had no say in it, I tryed to get a diffrent position :(
About the moutain thing, I warped with my police tag on below the small moutain becayse there were 4 people blocking the entrance and harrasing the bomys, they left after I came and gave them a warning,

why does everyone make ti so when I warp, they make a bad thing out of it :(?

SORRY! YOU DESERVER IT.

about the warpto:Yeah they do for merlin to even though he was just trying to find
out what the bug was :(

blackphoenix 09-03-2001 06:04 PM

ARGH!
 
NightLord isn't doing a good job.. he is corrupt and is removing all means of Staff abilities so he can have all the power to himself.. He offered me a job for doing his web site.
I was in ART for a time, but I have just been fired for inactivity, my ISP went down for a day and I went away to see some family yesterday. So Merlin ordered my RC removed and didn't even warn me that I was being inactive. Before that I was spending about 5 hours a day on my RC. The day my ISP went down I told Merlin that I was having trouble and it would take that day to sort out. Merlin has hired another ART member to replace me.. and he didn't even give me a chance to explain myself!
I don't like how NightLord runs things, he is a nice guy but I don't think he is the right sort of person to have as much power has he has :( If NightLord is letting people like me into staff positions that helps him with things out side of Graal then don't you think he will do it again, or already has done it! I'm not saying that I am incompetent at my old ART job but the way I got in wasn't fair on other Graal players! I will stay with GFX!
Stefan I wish you could do something, I sent you a long detailed email a few days ago but you haven't replied, I don't blame you for that, you are a busy man! But here is the summery of what I wrote:
I would like the beta version of Graal that helps people with the float error. I would like to re-design Graal Classic and make Graal 2001 even better as AgentCrypto isn't doing it fast enough! I have ideas but it would take up a lot of text.
And I said a few things about ART but that doesn't matter now. Please reply with your views!

blackphoenix 09-03-2001 06:46 PM

I just logged onto my GFX account, NightLord has disabled my warpto and update level abilities.. i can no longer get to the GFX cave or the staff tools levels :mad: so i can't do part of my job :(

James205 09-03-2001 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackphoenix
I just logged onto my GFX account, NightLord has disabled my warpto and update level abilities.. i can no longer get to the GFX cave or the staff tools levels :mad: so i can't do part of my job :(
He did it to all gfx people, I don't have RC anymore, or warpto as the assistant, but I am fine with it.

blackphoenix 09-04-2001 02:07 AM

we need the warpto, the GFX cave how else are we meant to get there.. and the staff tools.
Update level is a handy thing to have also.. it is a common utility and a lot of people request for levels to be updated. I don't see why we have been stripped of usefulness as staff.
It seems that a lot of staff motivation is running low.

KawaiiSaRiA 09-04-2001 04:56 AM

Don't worry about it, what's done is done, we can't change that.

Admins 09-04-2001 01:09 PM

Normally Nightlord has no right to do things
on Graal2001, and if he does (like the
ART thing) he needs to ask me before doing it.

No one is allowed to do update level on Graal2001
(except me). What is that graphics cave about?

Admins 09-04-2001 01:10 PM

Please someone remove that sig that asks for a login and password...

KawaiiSaRiA 09-04-2001 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Normally Nightlord has no right to do things
on Graal2001, and if he does (like the
ART thing) he needs to ask me before doing it.

No one is allowed to do update level on Graal2001
(except me). What is that graphics cave about?

It's a staff level on classic, for the (Graphics Administration) team, there is an NPC in there that Tyhm made, we use it to test various graphics.

Also Stefan, I think having warpto on other servers would come in handy, as I sometimes do pay each of them a visit, to make sure that they're not using any "copyrighted" materials. Sometimes I'd have to use warpto to get to the areas where normal players can't get to...and beleive me, I've found alot of copyrighted materials on other Player Worlds before.

And the whole "NightLord has no right to do things on graal2001 without asking me first" thing is exactly what I'm trying to say here...sorry if it came out the wrong way.

Admins 09-05-2001 05:17 AM

Yes such a warpto thing might be good,
although it can be a quite powerfull thing,
that's why not many people should get it


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