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dlang 01-26-2004 12:11 AM

I like seeing Lance argue in topics, he always has good points :)

~Inverness

Milkdude99 01-26-2004 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by dlang
I like seeing Lance argue in topics, he always has good points :)

~Inverness

You don't have good points when you agrue only when you "debate" an issue, there is a difference.

dlang 01-26-2004 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
You don't have good points when you agrue only when you "debate" an issue, there is a difference.
I'd like to hear that difference; I stand by what I said before.

~Inverness

ETD 01-26-2004 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
Geo's banning of Guilds, adding Teir Dal to Npulse, adding Kingdoms to Npulse thus removing Guilds in favor of kingdoms. The introduction of P2P to Graal all had an affect on Npulse and none of this was my or Moonies fault.
Wrong. You can blame that as much as you want...
1. Geo banned guilds for what? a week at most? it caused staff to quit, sure, but I doubt anyone left n-pulse over that...
2. the player count didn't start dropping till after you starting bringing back old n-pulse...
3. the kingdoms didn't matter... almost everyone was in the same kingdom, and if you weren't, you just hung out at that kingdom anyways. Again, I doubt many people left over the kingdoms... it just made a new 'main' level, and PKing level (kalton, and kalton gates)
4. Introduction of p2p had a little bit to do with it... maybe it stopped like 1/4 of the people from playing... but it does not explain the steady drop in player count over time

You can blame whatever you want... but the cause of n-pulse's decline (I believe) was the distruction of the n-pulse community...
I'm not going to say what I think caused the distruction of the comunity... maybe it was all the fights, maybe it was something else... but I believe that n-pulse had such a strong community, that it could have been nothing but blank levels, and could have stayed strong. But something changed that.
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Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend
I still don't see how he gets me and ETD mixed up. ETD has been the one on his case over the past year on these forums. :p :mad:
There was like 1 week where me and MG/Moonie argued a whole lot, but it was because I felt betrayed, and backstabbed... because I had tried to help n-pulse, but MG used propaganda to try to make me look like some prick. But anyways, I haven't posted anything even involving n-pulse in a negative fashion in over half a year...
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Originally posted by Darlene159
It isnt his fault, or I would....
It is his fault... If he was smart, he would have left any PW names out of it, and said something like 'This is an example from a public PW, showing how they have organized their RC rights. Good job guys, you know who you are'
Or something like that.... then this arguing couldn't have happened.
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Originally posted by Milkdude99
You don't have good points when you agrue only when you "debate" an issue, there is a difference.
I don't agree...
I think the difference is more in emotions...
you show emotion when you argue... you don't when you debate

Also, a debate is more controled... an argument is seen more as spontanius (sp?)

DarkShadows_Legend 01-26-2004 01:10 AM

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Posted by Darlene
but to say we sat around and did nothing but supervise is a lie.
It is true that MG was more towards the Management of Npulse because he is simply better at managing than I am
The supervising comment was more towards him. I didn't even bring your name into this since our last discussion on the N-Pulse Forums.
MG brought your name into this and it was inevitable since you two are partners and do things together.
I know you did a bit more than supervise because you actually spent time on your player account and provided N-Pulse with
an interesting town.

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On a side note, this thread was not started to have a discussion about Npulse, so this needs to stop...The past of Npulse does not matter anymore, it is the future that matters, leave it alone
I referred to a simple thing he used to say on N-Pulse that he said to someone in this thread.
I said a similar comment on classic back in 2002 and was banned for an extensive period.

What is the difference between me saying it and him?
He is pwa so people may assume that the entire community is like this and probably won't return. MG, right now in his position has some influence on Graal and he shouldn't be recommending others to quit and go play other competing products.


Read the bolds and consider my point of point of view please.
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Posted by MG
It was predicted last night it would be...
As for the sarcasm. I don't intend to be sarcastic. I prefer to be fairly straight forward with my comments. You know me better than that. :/

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You don't have good points when you argue only when you "debate" an issue, there is a difference.

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From dictionary.com

ar·gue ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ärgy)
v. ar·gued, ar·gu·ing, ar·gues
v. tr.
To put forth reasons for or against; debate: “It is time to stop arguing tax-rate reductions and to enact them” (Paul Craig Roberts).
To attempt to prove by reasoning; maintain or contend: The speaker argued that more immigrants should be admitted to the country.
To give evidence of; indicate: “Similarities cannot always be used to argue descent” (Isaac Asimov).
To persuade or influence (another), as by presenting reasons: argued the clerk into lowering the price

de·bate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-bt)
v. de·bat·ed, de·bat·ing, de·bates
v. intr.
To consider something; deliberate.
To engage in argument by discussing opposing points.
To engage in a formal discussion or argument. See Synonyms at discuss.
Obsolete. To fight or quarrel.

Lance 01-26-2004 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
This thread started out as a nice debate until certain people entered into it with name calling and sarcasm.
If the shoe fits, wear it.

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
You don't have good points when you agrue only when you "debate" an issue, there is a difference.
You most certainly don't have good points when you run away from the truth.

Loriel 01-26-2004 01:39 AM

I completely agree with Moon God.
Look at Zone for example, if we had not been so foolish to let someone unqualified had RC level 4, it would not have been wiped :(

Lance 01-26-2004 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by Loriel
I completely agree with Moon God.
Look at Zone for example, if we had not been so foolish to let someone unqualified had RC level 4, it would not have been wiped :(

Hmm? Dell having level 4 RC was within those PWA rules, and it didn't stop the wipe.

Darlene159 01-26-2004 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend

The supervising comment was more towards him. I didn't even bring your name into this since our last discussion on the N-Pulse Forums.
MG brought your name into this and it was inevitable since you two are partners and do things together.
I know you did a bit more than supervise because you actually spent time on your player account and provided N-Pulse with
an interesting town.

Refer to this:
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Yet both of you didn't do much.
This is why I replied

dlang 01-26-2004 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by Lance


Hmm? Dell having level 4 RC was within those PWA rules, and it didn't stop the wipe.

Once again, Lance comes out with another good point. :)

ETD 01-26-2004 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by dlang


Once again, Lance comes out with another good point. :)

the same point I made on page 4, and MG answered on page 5...

Lance 01-26-2004 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by ETD

the same point I made on page 4, and MG answered on page 5...

You were not replying to Loriel.

I was.

Blitz_Hunter 01-26-2004 09:20 PM

Wow, lookie there. Nine pages of nothing but BS. :)

Radiotoad 01-27-2004 01:55 AM

So you decided to buy a Graalonline playerworld?
Welcome to the world of playerworld managment, we are restricting your rights as a server owner so you cannot do anything as you please. As it stands right now, all upcoming playerworlds have to pay. However, the previously online playerworlds receive 6 months online time before they have to pay, even though they're worth staying on Graal's paid schedule, they have to pay our nice little fee of 100 dollars as well.
If you don't, we'll get out our bamboo chutes and shove them up your fingernails.

It's my favorite quote!

Milkdude99 01-27-2004 04:37 AM

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Originally posted by Radiotoad
Stuff

I suppose you find that amusing do we?:rolleyes:


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