it's a bright color?

Discuss what? You would have the same approach then as now. Believe me, I tried to reason with Dante and so did Wing. No go.

Dante had the power and would not relinquish it. It was a dead end, Dash, do you think I didn't try? I am not a freaking Barbarian.

We are not causing anymore bloodshed. You are the one who continues attacking, when we have already cried for Peace. You are the instigator now.

do you know what a pricipality is Kamuii? You do want some hand in their government... for you have chosen to place a leader they did not wish for merely because you liked his ideals. You are making them into a principality...

what. i am a foreign minister.

Oh please, you know nothing about the situation, and are drawing conclusions, are you some kind of conspiracy fanatic?

I have explained my motives countless times...and yet, no one seems to listen.

I DO NOT WANT ANY PART IN SAMURAI GOVERNMENT.

ALL I WANT IS FOR SAMURAI TO PROSPER AND LIVE.

AND UNDER THE OLG REGIME, IT CANNOT DO THIS.

principality = smert word for monarchy

*sighs* I do too... have you not read our discussion? He OPENLY ADMITED to this... he does not think it was wrong though

Then let it fail! It should have fallen or stayed on its own. It was not your dicision to decide its fate!

then let them have their own leader... for choosing one for them is getting involved

arghargharghargh you're an idiot that means you think the united states should not go into faltering foreign countries and HELP THEM?

ARGH THEY DID NOT CHOSE ME

i think it's safe to say that this has gotten out of hand

That was reality... in reality people die if a country falls... these people merely go and join another kingdom/guild

Juron you really don't know what you are talking about. Everytime you reply Symon and Wing have already told you the answer and yet you always seem to state the same thing over and over again.

then how did you get there? they took over and implaced you? I call that choosing you since you didn't get there of your own power.

Instigator ofwhat,
there is no bloodshed,
the only target of my forces is Wing,
we are not going to kill him yet,
we are giving him the chance to abdcate etc,
and as you said your main goal was for samurai to prosper and live, what in hell do you think my goal is?
and as soon as i started to set the groundowrk and the foundation for the revival of samurai and low and behold look who marches in unwanted and unprevoked

thats emotional arguement Valder.... and a double edged sword as well

JURON.

Wing has been Emperor for a while...

Ok then you chose yourself and the helped you take over,
anyway you put its you took it,
they backed you up,
and your both wrong


(although you do have a nice sig)

This argument is becoming very tiresome....

Unprovoked? *****, I didn't do this to hurt Samurai, yet you think I did because you apparently can't read and are losing brain mass by the minute.

I had been planning to invade Samurai and install Wing as Emperor for almost 3 weeks before I did it. It was a long road of decision which took me a long time to finally decide on. You spend a few days "setting groundwork" and making "foundations". I spent 3 weeks planning all of this. I already have plans to deal with you as well if you intend to keep fighting Wing.

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*sighs* toran.. oh I'm not even going to bother...

Wing, who is that in your sig?

LIES

Forget it, I'm through arguing here. The people are too thickheaded to realize that I am trying to help.

So, forget it. If you want to fight on like fools...feel free. I will be sitting here defending Wing and doing what I have spent weeks planning and a few days executing.

Forte/Bass ;)

;)
I knew I noticed that from somewhere.
GET ON AIM, I have something for you ;)

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now you probablystilldonotknowyourabcsbecauseyouhavenotrea dandcomprehendedathingpostedinthisthingyet,eventho ughitisreallysimple.

next time won't you just kill yourself? :[ (IC/In Character -- your character.)

AIM: Forte Forte

Its not lies,
I spoke wit Trueheat,
he said he will talk to you,
I am giving you some time to think about it,
you can abdicate and be exiled,
or you can be hunted down its your choice


and Kamuii I already made it clear that I know you had good intentions, and i dont care how long you planned it,
you marched in and killed those with the same objectives as you,
Im not losing brain mass,
Just becuase my opinion is different doesnt mean im dumb,
i totally respect your opinions,
but that doesnt mean ill sit here and do nothing,
now I have to go now,
but ill be back later

now everyone is going to assault you with pm's and defend the "old" samurai :rolleyes:

I don't care

If the poor man refuses aid... don't give him money.. however honest the intentions... you literally instilled their leader... making them no longer a state...

imo: kamuii did good because he has sparked a new interest with the samurai that might be what it needs. or not.

wrong... these sort of conflicts make people think their guild/kingdom(in this way they are not different) is dieing... and thus they leave... and thus it does:(

Newsflash: their kingdom, or is it guild? WAS dieing

they had plans to rebuild themselves but Kamuii... an outsider... forced upon them another they did not want(apparently)... that is where you need to look at things...