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GoZelda 03-13-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jake13jake
Because I also like the idea of bringing back parts of the old tileset.

NOTJUSTPARTS!! !pissed!

jake13jake 03-14-2006 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
NOTJUSTPARTS!! !pissed!

A lot of the old tileset can't be used because of copyright issues (or so I hear). I have the Zelda Online Tileset :P, so it's not too hard to see what's going on there. I don't think that the trees would hurt anything, but there's a lot of tiling right now that bringing back the roads wouldn't really help look good. The N,E,S,W aren't coming back, nor will the old roof decor.

Storm actually gave me permission to manage Classic's Tileset as a separate entity from pics1.png a while ago (esp. when tiles we need don't exist), and I haven't done anything for that yet. Although, now I'm thinking that we actually will put the old trees back.

Mark Sir Link 03-19-2006 11:21 PM

Yay @ Month + 12 Days And No Global Staff Intervention
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EDIT:
Dang, I forgot that it's more like a year and 3 months.

EDIT 2:

You agree that it's awfully terrible that there has been no intervention on a server with a decent playercount that isn't worth playing?

jake13jake 03-19-2006 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link
Yay @ Month + 12 Days And No Global Staff Intervention
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D:
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EDIT:
Dang, I forgot that it's more like a year and 3 months.

Well... in my perspective....

Yay @ Month + 12 Days And No Global Staff Assistance
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EDIT:
Dang, I forgot that it's more like a year and 3 months.

But at least Ibo and GrowlZ helped for a while.

Mark Sir Link 04-04-2006 10:46 PM

02-07-2006, 05:13 PM


It's been over a year now. We've had this twisted classic for over a year. So when will it stop, Stefan? Can you claim profits have gone up since the installment of NPC-Server on Classic? Sure, it has a larger playerbase, but it's still trial accounts. The "New" Classic (which is really an oxy*****) is probably bringing profits downward, since there are two quests in which the trials embark to gain the same status has everyone else. Two quick, easy, quests. So what's the point? What MAJOR security risk lies in having a server with no NPC-Server? When has it been possible for people to launch attacks globally from a single server? Stefan, please, just return classic to what it was before the NPC-Server was released.

Many of the players had paid for accounts to play Graal the Adventure. I know I sure did. Whole reason I got my p2p. I've been shortchanged in my payments, since I only got to play it as a p2p for a good 3 months. Those 3 months were unforgettable, and they must remain so for me to have a hope.

Stefan. What advantages are you possibly seeing? The oldbies aren't satisfied with this server. The largest profit potential, the newbies, aren't either. So just bring it back. Bring it all back. Take away the NPC-Server. Give us back our items, our bowling alleys, Babord, Avalon, Nimda. Let us relive these, because Classic is no longer the area to look for profit. Let us have it back.

EDIT: This isn't my first forum account, but my p2p is suffering a permaban for trivial reasons. However, Forum PMs and protest to Stefan himself have yet to work. I thank you for the interjection and warning, but I will have to disregard them.

EDIT 2: Who has asked for conversion, Master Storm?

EDIT 3: I never expected immediate action. I at least hoped someone would contact me so I can convince them or they may convince me as to what would be best for classic. However, none of this is yet to happen. I will dwell further into the bit about Graal making no more money now.

Ibonic has said that graal is in debt. Classic in it's current state is costing GraalOnline money. Not enough people play it, or pay to play it, that it is worth keeping up. Trials who enjoy classic have no incentive to upgrade, since the two quests take up 10 minutes of time, and they're at equal standing with everyone else.

The event that inspired me to start a bridge protest and create this thread happened today, as well. Some guy by the account name Celarion walked up to level14, and started asking questions. He said
"I've been saving up to get a p2p. I used to play pre-p2p. How do I get my old character and stuff back."

Telling him he'd never see it again was a bit painful. This guy surely enjoyed classic enough to upgrade. Perhaps other nooblets will see the light, and follow suit. But first, they need a server that actually requires an upgrade.

So take down the NPC-Server. Add the old levels, all the old NPCs. Don't bother converting them. Just give it back to us.



Classic, R.I.P. 1/6/05

Warcaptain 04-04-2006 11:56 PM

If you don't like it, go play another server.

Antago:

Do you ever post where you arent glorifying yourself?

napo_p2p 04-05-2006 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Warcaptain
Antago:

Do you ever post where you arent glorifying yourself?

Antago is banned :\ (I think).

Warcaptain 04-05-2006 04:35 AM

Thank goodness

Mark Sir Link 04-05-2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Warcaptain
If you don't like it, go play another server.

I payed money to play Graal the Adventure, not Massokre's ridicoulous idea of what Classic should be.

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You paid money to play Graal.. that is all Graal Online assures you when you sign up and pay. Every world.. classic, kingdoms, zone, delteria. If you choose to play these playerworlds then you need to understand that the staff have every right to change whatever they want. Stefan and Unixmad do not guarantee that every pw you like will stay 100% the same for you.. so I am sorry.
However, GraalOnline should also feel the need to have a quality server on the Classic tab, not a piece of ****.

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Originally Posted by Draenin
Mark, I hate to break it to ya, but I don't think you're ever going to convince anyone of anything with the self-given title of "Idiot Extrodinaire." (Spelled wrong, by the way, which is even funnier.)

Good thing I intentionally misspelled extraordinaire then?

Warcaptain 04-05-2006 04:44 PM

You paid money to play Graal.. that is all Graal Online assures you when you sign up and pay. Every world.. classic, kingdoms, zone, delteria. If you choose to play these playerworlds then you need to understand that the staff have every right to change whatever they want. Stefan and Unixmad do not guarantee that every pw you like will stay 100% the same for you.. so I am sorry.

syltburk 04-05-2006 05:50 PM

Why dont you have "classic had 500 players but has 10 at the moment" :S?

jake13jake 04-05-2006 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link
02-07-2006, 05:13 PM
The event that inspired me to start a bridge protest and create this thread happened today, as well. Some guy by the account name Celarion walked up to level14, and started asking questions. He said
"I've been saving up to get a p2p. I used to play pre-p2p. How do I get my old character and stuff back."

Wazza, who is helping greatly, just upgraded from trial this year. He made the new Snow Town and is helping out with picking up the pieces in Destiny. There is more work to be done than you can imagine with getting parts of the overworld back in place. The mountain isn't even close to done being tiled. We redid the Preface Quest (Lantern/Glass Graal) just this past week so that we can move along with a storyline that brings you to the castle. The castle has been near ready for months now, but all the overworld expansion and other tasks are making it difficult to bring up.

Not to mention I have college and a job on top of Graal. I have class as I'm typing this. So I will finish typing later.

Draenin 04-05-2006 09:32 PM

Mark, I hate to break it to ya, but I don't think you're ever going to convince anyone of anything with the self-given title of "Idiot Extrodinaire." (Spelled wrong, by the way, which is even funnier.)

Mogwai 04-05-2006 10:52 PM

I don't see the purpose of calling classic... classic.

Rename it to something else because it's not CLASSIC. Posting updated information about classic is great, but a lot of you are missing the point... it's not classic therefor it doesn't make sense.

In my opinion have jake create whatever he wants, because no one is going to convince him about any of this and the whole argument because he will do what he seems to want. Start a new group to recreate what classic actually WAS. Yes easier said than done, but it's worth a shot.

jake13jake 04-06-2006 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mogwai
I don't see the purpose of calling classic... classic.

Rename it to something else because it's not CLASSIC. Posting updated information about classic is great, but a lot of you are missing the point... it's not classic therefor it doesn't make sense.

In my opinion have jake create whatever he wants, because no one is going to convince him about any of this and the whole argument because he will do what he seems to want. Start a new group to recreate what classic actually WAS. Yes easier said than done, but it's worth a shot.

I -am- trying to recreate what it was as much as I can.


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