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Nappa 05-25-2005 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
I believe we've hijacked this thread, Nappa.

We must be good like that. Logging off forums though now, BYE

protagonist 05-25-2005 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
If you want free gold time, then you should earn it. I know of many people that have earned free gold, and even some have earned a life time of gold, but the thing is that they earned it. You dont just get special priviledges when you are hired. A lot of people that have earned free gold are not even global, but they have earned it. You can't expect them to give give give, when you don't earn it.

I worked hard as a PWA for one and a half years.

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Originally Posted by Gambet
If email is the only way of contacting Stefan, well, then that's a pretty big problem, especially for globals.

It wouldn't be if I had been given debug. I told you that already.



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Originally Posted by Gambet
1) Did you read what I said at all? I said GET PERMISSION FROM HIGHER STAFF FIRST. If you get permission, then by all means it would be very legal. You wouldn't be getting special treatment, you would just be having someone post up your work since you wouldn't be able to at the time. Also, you are not the only PWA member. If you needed something done that you couldn't do due to lack of rights or lack of being able to post on the forums or lack of being able to contact someone, then you should've spoken to the rest of your team about it. You really dont seem like a "team player", and from what you've said, you just joined the team to get special priviledges and rights, which I find sad.

You've never worked with me. Why don't you ask some of the other team members before you make stupid, blind statements?


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Originally Posted by Gambet
I interpreted them just fine. It's not my fault your greed has overcome you.

I expected to have some gratification for my work. I got none.

Gambet 05-25-2005 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
I worked hard as a PWA for one and a half years.

Congratulations, and most of us oldbies have worked hard for over 4 years. So, what will you tell me, that we havn't worked for Graal Online? Well, if you think about it, we very much have. If it wern't for the servers that the players made, then Graal Online would not be very successful. Do we have the "title" of working with Graal Online? No, we don't, but each and every developer does work for the company in some way or another.

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Originally Posted by protagonist
It wouldn't be if I had been given debug. I told you that already.

There should be other means of contacting Stefan then just debug. Either way, it's still a problem.

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Originally Posted by protagonist
You've never worked with me. Why don't you ask some of the other team members before you make stupid, blind statements?

What's your job? PWA. I don't need to work with/for you to have to know how you work. Your job is with the players, not with your teammates. You should be showing the players how well you are, not your own teammates. If most graalians are clueless as to who you are or let alone what you have done to contribute to the game, well, then that's a major problem. If you can't show me how well you can do your job, then I guess that means you are not very good at it.

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Originally Posted by protagonist
I expected to have some gratification for my work. I got none.

If only I knew what work this was. I've seen about one or two reviews from you. I don't think you've worked enough to go rambling that you've been in the team for nearly two years, because you've contributed enough work to bloat for only a good month or two.

ZanderX 05-25-2005 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
I worked hard as a PWA for one and a half years.

Boo-goddamn-hoo. There are people who worked harder than you for longer and got less. You don't see them making a big stink about it and whining and crying.

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Originally Posted by protagonist
I expected to have some gratification for my work. I got none.

So do you not have a real paying job or something? Because you should get used to this really soon.

Zero Hour 05-25-2005 01:20 AM

You knew that you were volunteering when you signed up, right? So what's the big surprise? Doesn't make much sense to me.

Gambet 05-25-2005 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ZanderX
Boo-goddamn-hoo. There are people who worked harder than you for longer and got less. You don't see them making a big stink about it and whining and crying.

Heck, I've worked harder then he has, and I don't expect anything in return. I've been doing "PWA" work most of my time on Graal, but I don't do it to get something in return, I do it for the players. It seems VT just wants special priviledges, which is why he joined the team.

p2p_Sir_Link 05-25-2005 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
Heck, I've worked harder then he has, and I don't expect anything in return. I've been doing "PWA" work most of my time on Graal, but I don't do it to get something in return, I do it for the players. It seems VT just wants special priviledges, which is why he joined the team.

Yea, FAQ positions are really tough. Try managing two servers, and financing a third. At the same time, where the financed one has yet to be fixed, even though I lodged a complaint the day I purchased it, over a month ago

protagonist 05-25-2005 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
Congratulations, and most of us oldbies have worked hard for over 4 years. So, what will you tell me, that we havn't worked for Graal Online? Well, if you think about it, we very much have. If it wern't for the servers that the players made, then Graal Online would not be very successful. Do we have the "title" of working with Graal Online? No, we don't, but each and every developer does work for the company in some way or another.

Haha. Us oldbies?
How about this:
Picture yourself a global admin. People message you all the time. You give out your only personal instant messenger screen name so that you can address issues ASAP. You are pretty much on-duty every second you're on the computer. That's me.
It takes a great deal of patience to listen to some of these people and solve their problems, especially when they can be so silly.


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Originally Posted by Gambet
There should be other means of contacting Stefan then just debug. Either way, it's still a problem.

Okay, so now you're agreeing?


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Originally Posted by Gambet
What's your job? PWA. I don't need to work with/for you to have to know how you work. Your job is with the players, not with your teammates. You should be showing the players how well you are, not your own teammates. If most graalians are clueless as to who you are or let alone what you have done to contribute to the game, well, then that's a major problem. If you can't show me how well you can do your job, then I guess that means you are not very good at it.

Uh, you said I wasn't a team player. If you want to know the extent of my teamliness, ask my team mates. Otherwise, shut up.



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Originally Posted by Gambet
If only I knew what work this was. I've seen about one or two reviews from you. I don't think you've worked enough to go rambling that you've been in the team for nearly two years, because you've contributed enough work to bloat for only a good month or two.

You don't see what happens behind closed doors and you make these assumptions. You're pathetic. Go outside, the short bus is waiting.

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Originally Posted by ZanderX
Boo-goddamn-hoo. There are people who worked harder than you for longer and got less. You don't see them making a big stink about it and whining and crying.

Got less? Who? Give names instead of ideas.

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Originally Posted by ZanderX
So do you not have a real paying job or something? Because you should get used to this really soon.

If I wanted a real paying job, why should I get used to not getting payed? I don't want money, I simply want to be given the tools necessary for work so that I don't have to pay to work.

Gambet 05-25-2005 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link
Yea, FAQ positions are really tough. Try managing two servers, and financing a third. At the same time, where the financed one has yet to be fixed, even though I lodged a complaint the day I purchased it, over a month ago


What does my work on Zone have ANYTHING to do with PWA work? Please, just shut up. I'm tired of you going about disrespecting me in every thread, and you running your mouth knowing NOTHING of what I'm talking about. I'm talking about all the guides and reviews I've written and posted.

Zero Hour 05-25-2005 01:25 AM

Protagonist, dude, address my comment.

protagonist 05-25-2005 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
You knew that you were volunteering when you signed up, right? So what's the big surprise? Doesn't make much sense to me.

It's fine to volunteer. However, how many volunteers actually pay to volunteer? They pay in time, not money.

Zero Hour 05-25-2005 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
It's fine to volunteer. However, how many volunteers actually pay to volunteer? They pay in time, not money.

Yea, but you knew you were going to pay when you volunteered, right? I mean Stefan didn't give away gold to every volunteer, it wasn't a surprise to you when you didn't get free gold right?

Besides, if you did get free gold for being staff every Tom, ****, and Joe would want to be a staffer!

[EDIT] Lame, I can't say the word which reminds some of phallus shaped objects.[/EDIT]

protagonist 05-25-2005 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
What does my work on Zone have ANYTHING to do with PWA work?

How does anything you do have anything to do with PWA work? You apparently don't even know what it encompasses.
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Originally Posted by Gambet
Please, just shut up. I'm tired of you going about disrespecting me in every thread, and you running your mouth knowing NOTHING of what I'm talking about.

Ahahahaha. :rolleyes:
Irony.
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Originally Posted by Gambet
I'm talking about all the guides and reviews I've written and posted.

It must piss you off that you haven't gotten smack for them. Oh wait, you got a nice position on Zone doing nothing. Free power/publicity!

Zero Hour 05-25-2005 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
Ahahahaha. :rolleyes:
Irony.

I agree x_x

but address my other points, now.

protagonist 05-25-2005 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
Yea, but you knew you were going to pay when you volunteered, right? I mean Stefan didn't give away gold to every volunteer, it wasn't a surprise to you when you didn't get free gold right?

It didn't surprise me at first, no. But more and more people are getting "global staff accounts", meaning they get free access. I think that should be extended to me as well.
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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
Besides, if you did get free gold for being staff every Tom, ****, and Joe would want to be a staffer!

Most of them do want to be staffers, simply because they get recognition and power.


EDIT: Sorry I called you Gambet, ZH. Really sorry.


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