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08-10-2001 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi
Jerom has many valid points. We need somekind of system NPC to control the RPing better. Also, it WOULD be nice to go inside the castle every now and then just to look around. Its not like players are going to vandelize it or anything like that. And I assume that the rooms are blocked off to non dustari members, so why would it hurt to allow people inside?

And as a small suggestion, try not to overuse the alpha channel, it bogs me down badly as far as your remodling is concerned. (alpha channel=setcoloreffect)


We'd love to let people in. We let anyone who can RP in. But we do not allow non-RPers in and for good reason. If you want to talk to me about it, IM me or something, I don't want to post much on the subject. As for lighting effects, talk to Birdbird about that. :)

Jerom 08-10-2001 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT


i said it's a matter of opinion and how you use the world
for me, it's a roleplaying server.

I'm sure NewMain could BECOME a RPing server, but you can't really expect for NewMain to just suddenly change into an RPing enviroment. I would like to RP, cept it's kinda hard when you have one person wanting to be a hard core RPer, then you have another person wanting to gut that RPing person because the RPing person wouldn't let the PKing guy in Dustari Castle. ;)
It just doesn't go together very well when you force things upon somebody and they're not willing to let you do it to them.
RPing isn't all about Dustari...because there are other kingdoms(Zormite, Pirate Crew is infact a kingdom wether you like it or not, Samurai, and that new Cloud kingdom). So if you think just by making Dustari an RPing enviroment in order for all of NewMain to change, you're too blind to see 2 inches ahead of yourself.

G_yoshi 08-10-2001 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX



We'd love to let people in. We let anyone who can RP in. But we do not allow non-RPers in and for good reason. If you want to talk to me about it, IM me or something, I don't want to post much on the subject. As for lighting effects, talk to Birdbird about that. :)

Still, as jerom mentioned, it may be degrading to non-rpers. I guess, if we saw more RPing going on, most of this crap wouldn't have to be dealt with.

About the lights, Im just saying that because not everyone's computer is capable of seeing lights or they don't have a good enough video card to have many onscreen.

TrueHeaT 08-10-2001 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Jerom

I'm sure NewMain could BECOME a RPing server, but you can't really expect for NewMain to just suddenly change into an RPing enviroment. I would like to RP, cept it's kinda hard when you have one person wanting to be a hard core RPer, then you have another person wanting to gut that RPing person because the RPing person wouldn't let the PKing guy in Dustari Castle. ;)
It just doesn't go together very well when you force things upon somebody and they're not willing to let you do it to them.
RPing isn't all about Dustari...because there are other kingdoms(Zormite, Pirate Crew is infact a kingdom wether you like it or not, Samurai, and that new Cloud kingdom). So if you think just by making Dustari an RPing enviroment in order for all of NewMain to change, you're too blind to see 2 inches ahead of yourself.

RPing is easy

Jerom 08-10-2001 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX



We'd love to let people in. We let anyone who can RP in. But we do not allow non-RPers in and for good reason. If you want to talk to me about it, IM me or something, I don't want to post much on the subject. As for lighting effects, talk to Birdbird about that. :)

If there were to be a PK in the castle, turn that into a role playing story for the time that it's happening!
"An assissan has entered the castle!! Call the guards and murder this traitor! And whatever you do, dont use Miru because using Miru is cheap and we should fight on our own instead of letting a magically made being do the job!"
Yeah, at first you'd have alot of that. Perhaps you could say people were revolting against the kingdom. You guys just have to think of ways to alter stuff like this to make it fun for EVERYBODY.

08-10-2001 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


Still, as jerom mentioned, it may be degrading to non-rpers. I guess, if we saw more RPing going on, most of this crap wouldn't have to be dealt with.

About the lights, Im just saying that because not everyone's computer is capable of seeing lights or they don't have a good enough video card to have many onscreen.

For the first thing: Why would a non-RPer bother with an RPing environment anyways? If they want to learn, they could say so and hell, we'd let them in and see if they had talent and teach them to RP. And about lights, yeah, I know what you mean. My card can barely handle many on screen, but the new castle isn't laden with light effects. :)

08-10-2001 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Jerom

If there were to be a PK in the castle, turn that into a role playing story for the time that it's happening!
"An assissan has entered the castle!! Call the guards and murder this traitor! And whatever you do, dont use Miru because using Miru is cheap and we should fight on our own instead of letting a magically made being do the job!"
Yeah, at first you'd have alot of that. Perhaps you could say people were revolting against the kingdom. You guys just have to think of ways to alter stuff like this to make it fun for EVERYBODY.

The problem is, Jerom, is that alot of people won't go along with us when we RP. They'll just respawn and keep killing us(which is not exactly fair, as far as RPing goes.). And they won't listen to us to learn, either. Believe me, it's happened before, and it'll continue happening. Which is why I can't wait for Providence, because then I won't have to deal with PKers who won't go along with anything. Oh, and Miru is never used anymore anyways...

Jerom 08-10-2001 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT


RPing is easy

Yup, RPing is easy. It's just like writing a book or lying to your science teacher about accidently catching her dress on fire with the lighter.

TrueHeaT 08-10-2001 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jerom

Yup, RPing is easy. It's just like writing a book or lying to your science teacher about accidently catching her dress on fire with the lighter.

or getting your **** stuck in that hole that some subwoofers have... not that's it's happened to me... erm...

G_yoshi 08-10-2001 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jerom

If there were to be a PK in the castle, turn that into a role playing story for the time that it's happening!
"An assissan has entered the castle!! Call the guards and murder this traitor! And whatever you do, dont use Miru because using Miru is cheap and we should fight on our own instead of letting a magically made being do the job!"
Yeah, at first you'd have alot of that. Perhaps you could say people were revolting against the kingdom. You guys just have to think of ways to alter stuff like this to make it fun for EVERYBODY.

*gives Jerom an award*

Now there is someone with a creative mind :D

Jerom 08-10-2001 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX


The problem is, Jerom, is that alot of people won't go along with us when we RP. They'll just respawn and keep killing us(which is not exactly fair, as far as RPing goes.). And they won't listen to us to learn, either. Believe me, it's happened before, and it'll continue happening. Which is why I can't wait for Providence, because then I won't have to deal with PKers who won't go along with anything. Oh, and Miru is never used anymore anyways...

Which is why I pointed out that a new System NPC would need to be made. :o
We were thinking that if the revolution event were to happen, that everyone that died would either be warped to an island, OOOOORRR!!...we could just make it so that they can float around as ghosts and just watch the battle without interfering with the fights.

Jerom 08-10-2001 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT


or getting your **** stuck in that hole that some subwoofers have... not that's it's happened to me... erm...

Or getting it stuck in a vacume cleaner on high :rolleyes:
But thats besides the point, i've never used iceyheat while masturbating ever in my life, it's just never happened. I've never had to go to the hospital because of it, nor have i had to have surgery to replace my now nullified sexual organ.

08-10-2001 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by Jerom

Which is why I pointed out that a new System NPC would need to be made. :o
We were thinking that if the revolution event were to happen, that everyone that died would either be warped to an island, OOOOORRR!!...we could just make it so that they can float around as ghosts and just watch the battle without interfering with the fights.

Fact is, that could take a while to make. Hmm. I have an idea relating to that: We can have a big survivor or cops and robbers game or something for the people who die. As more people die, more people get warped to the respective game or something, just to give people something to do while the revolution goes on.

By the way, sorry about getting all nasty and angry with you and stuff earlier, I was frustrated and irritated by a number of people. I'm usually not a mean person like that, I tend to try and not insult people and whatnot. No hard feelings? :(

TrueHeaT 08-10-2001 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by Jerom

Or getting it stuck in a vacume cleaner on high :rolleyes:
But thats besides the point, i've never used iceyheat while masturbating ever in my life, it's just never happened. I've never had to go to the hospital because of it, nor have i had to have surgery to replace my now nullified sexual organ.


D:
and that's enough of that.

Jerom 08-10-2001 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX


Fact is, that could take a while to make. Hmm. I have an idea relating to that: We can have a big survivor or cops and robbers game or something for the people who die. As more people die, more people get warped to the respective game or something, just to give people something to do while the revolution goes on.

By the way, sorry about getting all nasty and angry with you and stuff earlier, I was frustrated and irritated by a number of people. I'm usually not a mean person like that, I tend to try and not insult people and whatnot. No hard feelings? :(

I was trying to get ya fired up for the revolution ;)
Aaah, just kiddin'.
I'm just trying to let ya understand all the points and views and every possibility of NewMain and this whole RPing thing.

08-10-2001 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by Jerom

I was trying to get ya fired up for the revolution ;)
Aaah, just kiddin'.
I'm just trying to let ya understand all the points and views and every possibility of NewMain and this whole RPing thing.

When it comes to NewMain RPing, I'm usually really open-minded. It's just that...hrmm...I've been really frustrated with a number of things. I have a whole bunch of Dustari stuff to finish and I'm at a bit of a mental block, so I've been really irritable lately. Sorry for being so mean. :(

Jerom 08-10-2001 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX


When it comes to NewMain RPing, I'm usually really open-minded. It's just that...hrmm...I've been really frustrated with a number of things. I have a whole bunch of Dustari stuff to finish and I'm at a bit of a mental block, so I've been really irritable lately. Sorry for being so mean. :(

I get that way alot too, mosty because of people not understanding my own point of view.
But aaaaanyway...
Does anyone wanna change this topic to "RolePlaying Improvements"?
I could come up with ideas as we speak.

08-10-2001 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Jerom

I get that way alot too, mosty because of people not understanding my own point of view.
But aaaaanyway...
Does anyone wanna change this topic to "RolePlaying Improvements"?
I could come up with ideas as we speak.


So could I. :) I shouldn't be saying this, but I've been working on a small system for miniguilds inside of Dustari that'll allow some people a bit of flexibility. Like, a trader's guild, a fisher's guild, etc., etc...It's been the project I've been working on ever since I finished the Class Charts and History. That, and the entire Military Police that I am planning to implement, which I am writing an entire charter of laws for...But I have hit a bit of a road block and I am getting very frustrated. :( By the way, any post that is started by Asuka or has Asuka heavily involved in it seems to raise my post count by 100 or more. :(

Jerom 08-10-2001 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX



So could I. :) I shouldn't be saying this, but I've been working on a small system for miniguilds inside of Dustari that'll allow some people a bit of flexibility. Like, a trader's guild, a fisher's guild, etc., etc...It's been the project I've been working on ever since I finished the Class Charts and History. That, and the entire Military Police that I am planning to implement, which I am writing an entire charter of laws for...But I have hit a bit of a road block and I am getting very frustrated. :( By the way, any post that is started by Asuka or has Asuka heavily involved in it seems to raise my post count by 100 or more. :(

Keep in mind that everyone(and new people to the server) will have to know these laws and regulations. So it would be wise to keep them simple, and cut down to the point.
Plus you could add these rules into a library which would be in Dustari Castle. Heck, maybe you could make a book system where players could rent/borrow books from the library and read them instead of having to go to the library every time to read the same book. You could add features like book marks to save points in the book so the player doesnt have to press a button untill they get to the point where they last read off at.

08-10-2001 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Jerom

Keep in mind that everyone(and new people to the server) will have to know these laws and regulations. So it would be wise to keep them simple, and cut down to the point.
Plus you could add these rules into a library which would be in Dustari Castle. Heck, maybe you could make a book system where players could rent/borrow books from the library and read them instead of having to go to the library every time to read the same book. You could add features like book marks to save points in the book so the player doesnt have to press a button untill they get to the point where they last read off at.


I'd love to do that but Dustari does not have a scripter. :( Sure, we have level makers and people can RP and such _but_ we don't have a scripter. Birdbird is still learning scripting, which sucks, so for new NPC type things we're really sort of stuck in time. As for the regulations and laws, they're always to the point, but maybe not simple. :T I gotta go to sleep now, so bye.

Jerom 08-10-2001 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX



I'd love to do that but Dustari does not have a scripter. :( Sure, we have level makers and people can RP and such _but_ we don't have a scripter. Birdbird is still learning scripting, which sucks, so for new NPC type things we're really sort of stuck in time. As for the regulations and laws, they're always to the point, but maybe not simple. :T I gotta go to sleep now, so bye.

Yeah it's 1:39 AM here, and I've got people nagging me to sleep too.
Although couldn't you just kindly ask Stefan to make that system? He could make it easily.
All it would be, would be say2's(editable sign text), checking for 3 lines at a time(pages), and saving at those spots. Then the checking out system(library table counter) would be pretty easy to make for any good scripter. Although you could need to get someone to make book images, old librarian lady images, perhaps book mark images, and some other things.

Perhaps you could add more jobs to Dustari by giving people jobs as Librarians, Scribes, and so on.

Skatche 08-10-2001 12:45 PM

A bookmarkable book NPC? By the time you read this, I'll have started work on it. :) I might need a little help though.

Jerom 08-10-2001 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by Skatche
A bookmarkable book NPC? By the time you read this, I'll have started work on it. :) I might need a little help though.
I did about 2 minutes of thinking..
Perhaps you could tokenize the string breaks(for the ending of sentances so they wouldn't run off the sign board), and you could check the bookmark spots for that :D

Skatche 08-10-2001 12:55 PM

weeelll... maybe not AS SOON as you read it. I assumed you'd all be asleep, but we're in different timezones... I saw an NPC on the GraalNet (may it rest in peace) Forums that did text wrapping... anyway, I'm scrutinizing the commands.rtf file now, but I'll keep this open 'cause I know you're around. :D

Skatche 08-10-2001 01:14 PM

erm... the guy who made the text-wrap NPC, if you're reading this... could you post it? :D You'll get full credit, of course.

Tolerian28 08-10-2001 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by QueenGarnet



oh my GOD, no one cares.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHa

Birdbird_0 08-10-2001 06:39 PM

I have a bird named Angel

FatherDante 08-10-2001 09:59 PM

You know, since you mentioned color effects, Birdbird, I think you're a good level maker, but you use them to much! :D

Jerom 08-11-2001 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
You know, since you mentioned color effects, Birdbird, I think you're a good level maker, but you use them to much! :D
I remember Stefan saying something when he was checking the Birdnest, and saying something about a 100 NPC limit to each level or something...
And Birdbird, couldn't you have just used replacetiledef instead of adding a bunch of NPC trees which dont even have a realistic feel to them? I mean you added bits and parts of stones/bushes to make the trees solid. You could have at least used setshape2.
Perhaps you could get busy working on that now, and remove some of the light effects down in there too. And making the graphics for it shouldn't be that hard. All ya hafta do is cut up treenm3.png according to the ways a normal tree would used tile-wise. Then the rest is just re-making the levels, only with tiles and no NPCs.

Rekad 08-12-2001 10:18 PM

since people worry about respawners, why dont you just use the kingdom game as the area to rp? it has towns with the ability to take them over, it has weapons and things like that, and it also has healing for after the skirmishes. maybe each of the towns would start out with like 1000moneys and work from there.

GexGecko 08-12-2001 10:41 PM

I was in da baby RP... i got the poison and died cuz i'm a bomy.. .then lycia had to rescue me. AND SOMEONE KICKED ME OUT OF THE GUILD FOR MISSING A DAY... i always have day on, day off! Can I be re-added? (squire knuckles over)

frankiscool 08-31-2001 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX



Did I ever say I am a good king? No. I was not made King by choice. I never chose to be King, I was, quite simply, forced into being it. I did what I could for Dustari, in any way I could in my spare time away from work and other things in real life. Also, who are you to say I am a good or bad King? You have not seen much of what I have been doing with Dustari except for my recent absence of Graal due to an increase in my hours at work. For this reason, fewer Dustari members have been on and I have not been available to help or review applications or do much work for Dustari. If you are judging if I am a good or bad king off of that, then I am truly nonplussed, because that is a horrible way to judge someone. If not, please tell me what you are judging me on so that you have grounds that I am such a bad king to have a revolution against me.

Are you guys serios I mean do you see what your arguing about you donate all your time and effort for what a game, little gifs png images running around having a grand ole time are you people joking or something ITS A GAME MEANT TO BE PLAYED so if nothing is doing with your little castle then I say it should go actually when I post this your things already gone HA!! but seriosly it needed to be done it was boring on graal and to be quite honest it still is

RaVeN_629 08-31-2001 01:42 PM

lol did u acutally read all 10 pages?

Rainstorm 09-01-2001 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by RaVeN_629
lol did u acutally read all 10 pages?
I skipped over to the 19th page :D

Rainstorm 09-01-2001 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by SOTO
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