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Juron Pilo 01-01-2002 05:29 PM

good point...

ZanderX 01-01-2002 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Juron Pilo
if you mean to give them a chance to put a leader of their own in... then I think feivel shold goto this meeting and see what happens... I will hold back any further opinions until that time... if, of course, that is what you mean...

I want a leader in Samurai who is from neither side, or a new type of government altogether. I want to work with Jinshin on this, and with Wing, but Jinshin WILL NOT COOPERATE because Dash is being thickskulled.

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psihunter


I support no one just stating the truth

Dante had singed out control to himself

Kamuii helps control two kingdoms


Double edged sword I believe

uh huh, always the neutral one. argh, ye pirates are smart :cool:

Juron Pilo 01-01-2002 05:31 PM

I vote that Samurai should be instilled as it was... on the condition that they choose a new leader... BY VOTE... how is that agreement?

psihunter 01-01-2002 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kasuagi


uh huh, always the neutral one. argh, ye pirates are smart :cool:

How you think we lasted so long?

ZanderX 01-01-2002 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
I have no intent on attacking any dustarians,
the whole argument in this thread was whether or not dustari was right or wrong in attacking samurai or something like that,
I did not say I will not make peace,
I said I do not want to talk with Wing,
I said I will meet with you,
and I said I will not go about making believe this didnt happen.
You wanted us to pretend this didnt happen, lay down our weapons, and if we did that, then we would be admitted into Samurai. I said we dont want to be admitted into the Samurai that you and Wing have been brought about,
And that we would fight to right your wrongs instead,

I don't know where you get your info because I have never ONCE said anything remotely similar to that.

To find peace you must speak with Wing and myself in a council. To find peace we must work together...something you apparently are not keen on doing.

feivel 01-01-2002 05:33 PM

We want nothing to do with Wing,
Nothing to do with Dustari,
and nothing to do with Dustarian ideals,
and until Wing abdicates his throne,
or Wing is killed,
we will continue to fight for what is rightfully ours

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psihunter


How you think we lasted so long?

i just told you! because pirates are smart, duh :p

Juron Pilo 01-01-2002 05:34 PM

you did a hell of alot more discussion about bringing peace and unity than truely undoing what you have done... two different things I might add...

Valder 01-01-2002 05:34 PM

Haha, My kingdom will probably stay neutral when it goes up, but things can change ;)

ZanderX 01-01-2002 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
We want nothing to do with Wing,
Nothing to do with Dustari,
and nothing to do with Dustarian ideals,
and until Wing abdicates his throne,
or Wing is killed,
we will continue to fight for what is rightfully ours


You fight on stupidly. So much more could be done through peace, but you are blinded to it by some emotion.

psihunter 01-01-2002 05:34 PM

Kamuii can you not tell a bull to stop attacking while you wear red?

Juron Pilo 01-01-2002 05:36 PM

they don't need to "meet" with Wing if they wish to have their old government back...

ZanderX 01-01-2002 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psihunter
Kamuii can you not tell a bull to stop attacking while you wear red?

Good point.

feivel 01-01-2002 05:38 PM

If you want peace here is what you do,
You get Wing to abdicate,
you go away,
you dont come back unless our invited,
its as simple as that,
that is how it was beofre hte attack,
Wing was not emperorm
Dustari stayed away,
I stol Dustari not to come without an invitation,
and they unprovoked attacked,
now if you want peace you will leave,
and you will force Wing to abdicate,
maybe you dont understand that although what I saw seems silly to you, it should seem silly in the eyes of a dustarian, a westerner, theres different culture, and now you try to change that too

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX



You fight on stupidly. So much more could be done through peace, but you are blinded to it by some emotion.

grr, just give up symon. he is blinded by his own ambitions, he doesn't realize that for samurai to prosper he'll have to step back and let the kingdom regin under a new rule

it's for the best, what he's fighting for doesn't exist anymore. samurai won't ever be the same!

Valder 01-01-2002 05:38 PM

I love how people argue when someone RPs and you don't like the way they do it because it does something to harm you. If your character dies, start a new one. If your kingdom dies, either try and rebuild it or just give it up and start to wonder around.

Juron Pilo 01-01-2002 05:39 PM

Oh really Kamuii... have we resorted to name calling? That is the true measure of the dependancy on emotional impact a person is relying on... I compare a court room to him and the TV preachers who take peoples money with you

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valder
I love how people argue when someone RPs and you don't like the way they do it because it does something to harm you. If your character dies, start a new one. If your kingdom dies, either try and rebuild it or just give it up and start to wonder around.
mmmm, nice sig valder

yummy

ZanderX 01-01-2002 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
If you want peace here is what you do,
You get Wing to abdicate,
you go away,
you dont come back unless our invited,
its as simple as that,
that is how it was beofre hte attack,
Wing was not emperorm
Dustari stayed away,
I stol Dustari not to come without an invitation,
and they unprovoked attacked,
now if you want peace you will leave,
and you will force Wing to abdicate,
maybe you dont understand that although what I saw seems silly to you, it should seem silly in the eyes of a dustarian, a westerner, theres different culture, and now you try to change that too


You're a fool, plain and simple. You are going to bring about the ruin of Samurai with your close minded-ness. You're as bad as Dante, and I will no longer have any dealings with you.

If you wish to destroy the Kingdom you so dearly love, be my guest and continue fighting.

Juron Pilo 01-01-2002 05:41 PM

I was thinking the same thing about the sig... so another person out there likes Golden Sun

Valder 01-01-2002 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX



You're a fool, plain and simple. You are going to bring about the ruin of Samurai with your close minded-ness. You're as bad as Dante, and I will no longer have any dealings with you.

If you wish to destroy the Kingdom you so dearly love, be my guest and continue fighting.

HAHA, I am soooo glad that my RP character is on a quest right now and has no dealing with this. He probably wouldn't do anything about it anyway because his brother was a samurai.

feivel 01-01-2002 05:42 PM

I have started many new characters,
this one is too take back what rightfully belongs to us

OOC: WHen the south attaked the north did the north say, oh well we'll just surrender becuase we dont want anyone to get hurt, so we'll let the south rule us,
n the north marched out troops and as abraham lincoln said
to preserve the union, and to preserve the country


Well for g-ds sakes if lincoln can do that than so can I, your the blind ones

Valder 01-01-2002 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Juron Pilo
I was thinking the same thing about the sig... so another person out there likes Golden Sun
HA, my favorite game. I beat it and then the next day started a new game just to play it again. ;)

Juron Pilo 01-01-2002 05:44 PM

Now that Kamuii has resorted upon emotional speeches I know it is too late for him to apologize and rectify the situation... but alas I will continue posting... for I myself am stubborn:D

ZanderX 01-01-2002 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
I have started many new characters,
this one is too take back what rightfully belongs to us

OOC: WHen the south attaked the north did the north say, oh well we'll just surrender becuase we dont want anyone to get hurt, so we'll let the south rule us,
n the north marched out troops and as abraham lincoln said
to preserve the union, and to preserve the country


Well for g-ds sakes if lincoln can do that than so can I, your the blind ones


This is completely different from the civil war, you rocket freaking scientist.

I want peace genuinely, I am willing to WORK WITH YOU ON SOMETHING that will satisfy both of our needs.

You call ME blind? If the South had been willing to lay down their arms in the Civil War and work with Lincoln on a way to abolish slavery and keep their profits, then it would have happened.

Your own statement made you look like an idiot, because it showed that you are not seeing the entire picture that all of this can be solved through peace and not war.

feivel 01-01-2002 05:44 PM

OOC: when you rp as a samurai,
you must act like a samurai,
I onl act as a samurai would,
it may be close minded to you,
but not to us samurai,
so dont criticize me OOC,
but you can poke fun at my charatcer all you like,
its your decision

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 05:45 PM

valder are you using the random sig thingy?

feivel 01-01-2002 05:45 PM

I told you there can be peace,
but the peace we want,
is not what you want,
you have no place in our government

Juron Pilo 01-01-2002 05:46 PM

I don't buy that anyone could be that darned game in one day without having gone through it once allready

ZanderX 01-01-2002 05:46 PM

I was Samurai before I was Dustari, Dash.

Samurai were never so close minded as you. Neither were the Kingdom. This is horrible.

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX



This is completely different from the civil war, you rocket freaking scientist.

I want peace genuinely, I am willing to WORK WITH YOU ON SOMETHING that will satisfy both of our needs.

You call ME blind? If the South had been willing to lay down their arms in the Civil War and work with Lincoln on a way to abolish slavery and keep their profits, then it would have happened.

Your own statement made you look like an idiot, because it showed that you are not seeing the entire picture that all of this can be solved through peace and not war.

rocket freaking scientist, lol

Torankusu 01-01-2002 05:46 PM

why do bulls like red.

Valder 01-01-2002 05:46 PM

This is getting kind of dumb. You guys argue with eachother about things you can do in the game by RPing. It is dumb for you to argue on the forums seeing as it will just get people angry.

SabreKnot 01-01-2002 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
I have started many new characters,
this one is too take back what rightfully belongs to us

OOC: WHen the south attaked the north did the north say, oh well we'll just surrender becuase we dont want anyone to get hurt, so we'll let the south rule us,
n the north marched out troops and as abraham lincoln said
to preserve the union, and to preserve the country


Well for g-ds sakes if lincoln can do that than so can I, your the blind ones

Hrmm... well if you are going to say that, then we will use this example too.

The U.S. doesnt like commuist and fights to overcome it. They fight and try to instill a free government so that people can be happy or something.

Well, except Dustari isnt as big as the U.S, and we dont have guns, and we live in a castle. And samurai arent commies, and uhm... bah lol *hides and hope no one takes this post seriously*

:D

ZanderX 01-01-2002 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
I told you there can be peace,
but the peace we want,
is not what you want,
you have no place in our government



IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, I AM NOT IN YOUR GODDAMN FREAKING GOVERNMENT. COMPRENDE?

Juron Pilo 01-01-2002 05:47 PM

fyi this is a sucession with foriegn interference.... ok? is that definition good enough for everybody?

feivel 01-01-2002 05:47 PM

and BTW Kamuii
you just completely proved yourself wrong.

You said if the south had been willing to lay down their arms etc etc etc there cold have been peace,

well if the Dustarians had been willing to discuss this first, and given suggestions there could have been peace but no what did they do, they marched in and took over, and then they point to me and say im the one who is causing bloodshed,
so Kamuii if you go by yor theory, then your wrong there too

Valder 01-01-2002 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kasuagi
valder are you using the random sig thingy?
yes
And what are you talking about Juron

feivel 01-01-2002 05:48 PM

If your not in my government stop saying reach terms that satisfy our needs and YOUR needs,
you have no needs in my government,
so butt out,


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