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jonnyrocks2 11-29-2007 02:46 AM

GK is capable of being saved, but would require extensive work. :s

DustyPorViva 11-29-2007 02:46 AM

Where the hell are my 42 female virgins?

ViperZakuto 11-29-2007 05:24 AM

Tig will never be an admin of gk... because gk staff doesn't trust people from USA.. it's just a fact I've noticed in the past 5 years.

FenixTheBanished 11-29-2007 05:32 AM

If we keep pushing and show that we have support and are serious I think they will seriously consider it, but if we just sit here and roll over then yeah, nothing will happen.

ReBorn_Spirit 11-29-2007 06:41 AM

It's been proven before that new content only lasts so long.
The same goes for friendly/unfriendly faces. Not pointing at anyone really, I know alot of people feel Bjorn isnt on peoples good side as it is.

Fact is, you need more then just a server manager to be active. Events team and someone to fix bugs and update levels are needed as well. Not to mention not as critical and far more likely to succede at being restored then attempting to replace Bjorn.

There are hundreds of actually decent/semi decent suggestions that never even got an attempt to be done to GK. Some of them should have been too. It really isnt a wonder why GK is falling apart when you think of just those points alone.

Sorry but I just cannot agree with replacing staff when we should be restoring all of their activity ratings.

Luigi203 11-29-2007 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit (Post 1361192)
It's been proven before that new content only lasts so long.

It's been proven that anything new is only new for so long. The idea is to hire a server manager who adds/updates things regularly. What I mean is somone who doesn't wait for some sort of holiday to upload items with fancy new graphics, without even really developing the server. Real gameplay changes and updates. New functions, and the repair of disabled/never finished functions.


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Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit (Post 1361192)
The same goes for friendly/unfriendly faces. Not pointing at anyone really, I know alot of people feel Bjorn isnt on peoples good side as it is.

Which is relevant, how?

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Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit (Post 1361192)
Fact is, you need more then just a server manager to be active. Events team and someone to fix bugs and update levels are needed as well.

...and Tig is capabable of all of this...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?

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Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit (Post 1361192)
Not to mention not as critical and far more likely to succede at being restored then attempting to replace Bjorn.

Did this sway your vote?

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Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit (Post 1361192)
There are hundreds of actually decent/semi decent suggestions that never even got an attempt to be done to GK. Some of them should have been too. It really isnt a wonder why GK is falling apart when you think of just those points alone.

...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?

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Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit (Post 1361192)
Sorry but I just cannot agree with replacing staff when we should be restoring all of their activity ratings.

What...?!

Googi 11-29-2007 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Luigi203 (Post 1361198)
...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?

Nobody is talking about having anybody replace Bjorn.

Laek2007 11-29-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1361200)
Nobody is talking about having anybody replace Bjorn.

Obviously someone is.

And I do agree something has to happend.

DraxxTeazok 11-29-2007 12:12 PM

psh
 
first off i have to say, googie your an idiot. i have never once seen you bring any useful information or advice to any thread on the forums. i have also suggested many great ideas to expand gk, and am never taken seriously. anyone who is a real gamer can tell how to evolve this game simply by taking the best parts of past games and adapting them to fit in the gk world. just like my fishing idea.

Secondly, tig you're one of the most foul people i have ever met, and as a person you make me sick, but i know you can dev, and you have ideas. if i could stand to be around you i may have already started working with you.

Third is to Bjorn, you're lazy. i dunno if anyone else really knows it, but i do. I know working on this game can be a pain, it can make you want to tear your hair out in clumps, but if you dont care for playing the game, then you should NEVER be in charge of anything.
Have you fixed the postal system yet that i asked you to do at least half a dozen times in the past two years? NO
instead you forgot about it again, guarantee it, because YOU DONT CARE TO PLAY this game
and whats worse is that you are still the best guy for the job
you're "waiting for those item stats" are ya?
you think you sound like a leader? you sound like a loser
if you gave a **** you would have gone to stefan 100 times by now for those stats
and you "dont know how the US works?"
you have made that very clear, but care to guess where your player base originates? thats right, we are mostly americans (dunno if you actually even realize that)
you have also made it very clear that you are good with scripting, but you know nothing about game creation
im willing to bet your not even a gamer, not even a little bit

i dont think we should replace you, i think you need to get your **** together and do something like a real leader

i have given you tons of my ideas for a great fishing system, bug catching, farming with animals, a pet job system, new monsters and drops, custom kingdom hair clothing and gear, sounds and animals of nature, a gift giving mail system, wild plant/fungus gathering guide, custom home furnishings, i can go on and on, but the fact is none of them, not one has been implimented

not once have you even taken the time to learn from me
even when alarid made custom kingdom clothing ideas, and new monsters, you ignored him until he quit, now he laughs at you and talks about how your doomed, and im willing to bet hes right

now im stuck doing GFX and being ignored alone again

you want people to actually believe you work hard? then hire some staff, hire some scripters and GFX, hire Tig for a start, and get to work on this games content (note that doesn't include anymore useless ugly items or blank islands) i mean REAL content

and dayaa, saying new content only lasts so long is just ignorant, thats like saying lords no longer have a place in gk
they weren't there before, then they were added, and they been useful in several ways ever since (thats real new content)

P.S. Tig if you cant script, i dont see how you could really be of help, other then helping with gfx (making new buildings filled with the same junk doesn't even classify as a bandaid)

ViperZakuto 11-29-2007 04:17 PM

I was waiting for you to come in on this one. =D I believe tig can script with the best of them. If he couldn't I don't think he would be working on his own server called Ol West. =O I see you have had more ideas. =P Wish I could help you on that =(

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Originally Posted by Luigi203 (Post 1361198)
...and Tig is capabable of all of this...which is why Tig was nominated to replace Bjorn...?

first off if you read this thread it is not to replace Bjorn. As much as we would all like to see it happen... Bjorn is more than likely going to stay. This is about making Tig an admin.

@Bjorn: Your lucky that the proposition to remove you from GK admin was taken down like 1 year ago for fear of getting banned. It was signed by like 2/3 of the gk population at the time =O

dNeonb 11-29-2007 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperZakuto (Post 1361238)
This is about making Tig an admin.

Actually it is but you forgot to mention one point. All the arguments are based on it that Tig can only help GK if he is Admin, and this is not ture.

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Originally Posted by ViperZakuto (Post 1361238)
@Bjorn: Your lucky that the proposition to remove you from GK admin was taken down like 1 year ago for fear of getting banned. It was signed by like 2/3 of the gk population at the time =O

I can not remember such a proposition at all. But when talking about 2/3 of GK you are talking about something on forums I assume because there wouldn't have been a way to do that on GK. So only say 2/3 of the people who are active on the gk forums and not of the GK players.
If I would treat people that way a few would be banned which they are not. This is just defamation and nothing else. If you have nothing better than defamations to support your opinion I really do feel sorry for you.

Sheen_the_mage 11-29-2007 05:46 PM

If the forum is just a tiny bit of the gk community, why isn't there an in-game poll?
I remember one a few years ago.

Pimmeh 11-29-2007 06:03 PM

Because the masses cant make their own desisions, afcourse.
That is the reason we have leaders, because total democracy wouldnt work

Ravenblade1979 11-29-2007 06:39 PM

Bjorn the fact that a petition was signed by 2/3rd's of GK players should tell you something. Don't ignore this. See this as a sign that maybe something serious is wrong here. I have to admit that you can be quick at uploading something as long as its done right and within your boundries but its time to get more help. Its time for you to have an admin who will be your equal (not saying to replace you) and won't be afraid to bite back.

People want more done. They want bug fixes, new monsters etc. Frankly people don't want to goto you because you do turn down a lot of stuff. As much as you want to deny this you know its true. Granted though for good reason most of the time(example: script doesn't work right, level isn't nice enough etc.).

I think its time to listen to the GK populous. Only so much can be done on debug. Especially when 96% of the people on there are only on for their kingdom. Tig is a good scripter but can only do so much. Me I am a mediocre LAT at best. We need more for the dev teams. We need specified dev team..not zormite or CP but GK itself. It can be Tig on that team as well as some other people.

Theres a first step to take Bjorn. How about getting a dev team specified on improving GK more by fixing bugs, adding monsters etc.

Tigairius 11-29-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DraxxTeazok (Post 1361214)
P.S. Tig if you cant script, i dont see how you could really be of help, other then helping with gfx (making new buildings filled with the same junk doesn't even classify as a bandaid)

I am one of the most well-known scripters on Graal. x_x


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