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Originally Posted by Lord Sephiroth (Post 1276351)

You guys are so ignorant sometimes. It's the same argument every day on these forums, some players with good points talk, but because there are some players that are dumb and spam wrong information enter threads, you just assume we're all talking about the same thing.

Maybe if you two would read what most of us are saying you'd understand that we couldn't give a rats ass if it was Bell, Googi or ****ing Excalibur picked for PWA over us, what we're all talking about is that it's not whether or not this person is qualified for the job it's how she got the job.

And don't even try to tell me she got it through applying because even you thinking about it is going to send my bull****-o-meter off.

Many people have said that, and truthfully, It's not what you know it's Who you know, what happened the last time the Globals held open staff trials? They ended up picking Calani and GrowlZ, GrowlZ probably deserved it, I didn't know GrowlZ that much, but I know for a fact that Calani didn't deserve it, but she got it anyways, wasn't she dating GrowlZ at the time?

I'm sick of getting talked down to by moderators and globals, contrary to popular belief you don't have all the answers, and it doesn't help any when you don't care enough to try and understand what we're saying.

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Yes, that part is correct.

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Originally Posted by Andy0687 (Post 1276344)

You know what? When you left N-Pulse im not sure if I ever saw more happy graalians. Obviously you werent friends with anyone you can tell by the way they speak of your management. Unless they became friends with you during that time. Fact is you probably were one of if not the longest manager of any classic playerworld on the list, you enforced the rules as if they were real life, and you were "polite and respectful" about it. So what?

You are right. I know that a large portion of the players of N-Pulse were happy that I was gone, that is a large reason why I left. You see, Graalians do not want Managers or staff who enforce the Graal rules, or even the forum rules, they want staff who overlook that trivial stuff. ;)

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At the end of the day your post has nothing to do with what I was saying, who the hell wants to waste all their time applying for a position they might not get when they can just get someone they know to get them into it?

From what I can see, most, if not all of the globals in place now are very dependable adults (or near adults, not sure of this) who do not seem to be the type to just recommend their friends for a high position just to be doing it. I am pretty sure that if they recommend someone, it is because they believe the person is qualified for the job.

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Originally Posted by Lord Sephiroth (Post 1276351)

Maybe if you two would read what most of us are saying you'd understand that we couldn't give a rats ass if it was Bell, Googi or ****ing Excalibur picked for PWA over us, what we're all talking about is that it's not whether or not this person is qualified for the job it's how she got the job.

How do you know how she got the job? Are you assuming? If Ibonic recommended her, I would trust the recommendation because I trust Ibonic, even if they were friends, he would not recommend her for the job if he didn't think she could do it.
I don't think an application process is the way to go when hiring globals. I think they should be hired by gaining trust over time.

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1276356)

Because, despite popular belief, there is a way to give a little to the players and let them take a little and everyone can get along and the staff dont have to be a complete Zealot.

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who do not seem to be the type to just recommend their friends for a high position just to be doing it. I am pretty sure that if they recommend someone, it is because they believe the person is qualified for the job.

Disagree. For the most part, Googi has made posts of "Positions" on G2k1 and other servers that were nothing but nests for people to sit because their friends wanted them to be on staff with them.

Im not saying its entirely that way now, but prove to me it isnt? You cant.

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How do you know how she got the job? Are you assuming? If Ibonic recommended her,

Until Ibonic or Bell either clear this up it seems to be understood that Ibonic just Hired her, not recommended, because he has that power to do so (Much like Nemesis could back in his own time).

This thread is kinda going in circles :\

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1276365)

This thread is kinda going in circles :\

You only say this because you're friends with them both. So it's a bit biased.

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1276366)

You only say this because you're friends with them both. So it's a bit biased.

No. The thread, is going round, in circles.

No, there are some valid points here which need to be read.

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1276371)

No, there are some valid points here which need to be read.

Such as?

LOL, I knew you were going to say that, why don't you open your eyes, and read the posts that are here. You just don't want to read it because it's about your e-friends.

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1276374)

LOL, I knew you were going to say that, why don't you open your eyes, and read the posts that are here. You just don't want to read it because it's about your e-friends.

My eyes are opened, obviously and I've read every single post which was posted in this thread.

Now I'll ask again, where are these esteemed "valid points"?

You're supposed to be smarter than this, first of all, I never said they were esteemed, you're just being a smartass because people are ripping on your E-friends. You know the points are there Rufus, I don't have to point them out to you.

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Originally Posted by Andy0687 (Post 1276362)

Until Ibonic or Bell either clear this up it seems to be understood that Ibonic just Hired her, not recommended, because he has that power to do so (Much like Nemesis could back in his own time).

If he did, I applaud him because she is excellent for the job.

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1276376)

I don't, as we obviously have a difference in opinion of which is a valid point. You claim my judgement is clouded because Bell is an "e-friend" well to be honest, I disagree. There is no evidence to support that Bell has done anything but her job assigned in the past, nor do we have anyone who can accurately predict the future here, so I'd say we're all going on speculation.

How someone can judge someone else who they do not know is beyond me, and to be frank, it really has nothing to do with anyone who hired Bell or why. If she does the job she was hired to do, which she will and I'm sure many people will go out on a limb to agree with me, then there is no problem what so ever.

You're still missing the point.

He hired a friend, no one cares if she can jump through hoops with a fire stick in her mouth while singing the national anthem, it's about how she was hired.

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1276381)

You're still missing the point.

He hired a friend, no one cares if she can jump through hoops with a fire stick in her mouth while singing the national anthem, it's about how she was hired.

He hired someone he could rely on and trusted, isn't that better then hiring someone who he didn't know, didn't trusted and didn't know of their ability?