Logically.

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That's a bad thing?

It depends on who you're talking to. Some people are more reactive to logical truths then other people, especially when those logical truths evolve around a abominable situation.

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Just explaining the situation to him. Note that I'm not writing essays here, it's not using up much of my time.

That's irrelevant to my point. It's best to ignore him altogether to avoid further conflict.

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That quote is ignorant and stupid, we use our other part of the brain, and you use your part, why does that make scripters smarter than us?

Logic = Smart.

Just a quick question. When and how did Tyrial get involved in this? ;[

I don't know why he did, either, since his jumping into the debate is possibly going to make things worse. I'm not trying to get offensive, but you people are making a fool out of Graphics Artists.

Everyone is a fool, this is the Graal forums have you forgotten?

I tried deleting this thread but it is too late.

Graphics are only the skin of the project, under the skin is what makes it all work and come together(scripting).

Those who judge games solely on their graphics are ignorant to good gameplay. Sure, good graphics make the game better, but they only make it better.

I think graphic artists and scripters are equal. :X l34ve me out of this y0

They are equal, but not directly. If you're assuming on the terms of a different basis, as such like a development team, then they both are equally essential.

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Everyone is a fool, this is the Graal forums have you forgotten?

This statement is ludicrously obvious.

Donno, just bored and yeah.. i wanted to stand up to gfx peepz including myself and donald + the rest (deek, kinatt).



Okay im gone bai

1) Ours involves logic more than yours, which is a facet of intelligence.
2) As well as using a different side of our brain, we're also generally more intelligent. Wanna settle this? Name your champions. I nominate myself, Giltwist and Tyhm. Find three artists with a greater combined intelligence and you can take the cake.

Obviously some scripters are idiots. The same applies equally to artists.

Indeed, but that was before the hostilities.

Only in your simplistic, deluded view of the world :)

Haha, okay, that's fine by me ^_^



I don't want to turn this into a sub-topic of the debate, but cold-hearted people aren't bound to any particular conversational style. They can be cutting and merciless if they want, or they can be as peaceful as any nice guy. Morals restrict, they never enable.

I don't mean to be a nitpick or anything, but didn't you say before that all artists are idiots? And now you're saying that only some are idiots? You can't be a hypocrite. There's going to be an idiot in any hobby or interest no matter what.

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I don't want to turn this into a sub-topic of the debate, but cold-hearted people aren't bound to any particular conversational style. They can be cutting and merciless if they want, or they can be as peaceful as any nice guy. Morals restrict, they never enable.

I wasn't exactly directing to the cold-hearted, but usually people who are more logical than others who think away from the general crowd on a rather touchy subject are going to be wrongfully labelled 'cold-hearted' just because of what they are thinking (like you in the WW2 debate). In this case, if that's so, then what they say is going to be most likely true. Yes, cold-hearted people don't have to talk on only one controversial level, but that's not why they are called 'cold-hearted'.

No, you just took my statement too literally.

With the possible exception of stuff like quantum physics etc :-p

Fair enough, I agree. Being cold-hearted isn't a handicap, but expressing controversial, cold-hearted viewpoints can cause conflicts.

Well, I didn't know what to think. You jumped from one assumption to another. I didn't notice that you weren't being precise.

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With the possible exception of stuff like quantum physics etc :-p

*shrug*
I understand quantum physics pretty well, as well as it's mathematical computations, and I act like an idiot all the time. What I was trying to compare to was only the general hobbies that the joe public would go into, not anything like the complex sciences. Because in complex sciences, you can't act like an idiot. You have yo use your brain, or else you're going to make mistakes in your work, and that could possibly lead to some rather behemothic problems (one way or another) later on.

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Fair enough, I agree. Being cold-hearted isn't a handicap, but expressing controversial, cold-hearted viewpoints can cause conflicts.

Yes. The other way around is just poor assumptions.

WHY DONALD SHIMODA, WHY?!!

WHY CANT YOU JUST SAY GRAPHICS. YOU DONT MAKE GRAPHIC. YOU MAKE GRAPHICS. OMIGODWMKERWF

That was a nice change from the useless argument. :p