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konidias 09-23-2003 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by MarkB


Because you cannot. Most of the people I have talked to(who know GFX) have said that bloos style is much better than yours and his work ethic blows your out of the water.

C'mon mr. GFX god, show me your the best.

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I'm just trying to stop you from looking like an arrogant conceited fool.

MarkB 09-23-2003 02:26 AM

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Eh, I think you're overreacting here. He doesn't have to be able to make something better in order to judge if something is good or not. You don't have to be able to cook a fabulous meal in order to judge if something tastes good or not. That's silly.

So he made one comment without backing it up... I really don't see how he's slamming the graphics. If he came in and said "OMG THAT JUST TOTALLY SUCKS" then I would agree that he is just bashing, but he's not. He's picking out certain things, which I mostly have to agree with.

I'm just trying to stop you from looking like an arrogant conceited fool. I mean bloo kat is good, but he's not like super amazing spectacular. Really, you shouldn't be telling Deek to make something better, when you're not even the person who made the work. I mean you're getting offended over Deek talking bad about somebody elses graphics.


This isnt the only thread. ANYTHING bloo makes he has something bad to say about it. He is the main reason bloo left in the first place a while back. I am not the "conceited fool". I cannot make GFX, I am just sticking up for bloo.

konidias 09-23-2003 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by MarkB
This isnt the only thread. ANYTHING bloo makes he has something bad to say about it. He is the main reason bloo left in the first place a while back. I am not the "conceited fool". I cannot make GFX, I am just sticking up for bloo.
Eh, it's bloo's problem though, not yours. Maybe he finds something wrong with everything bloo makes? I mean it's not like it's impossible. Everyone has flaws and there is always room for improvement.

davidpsy 09-23-2003 02:31 AM

It really does seem like deek is picking on bloo, deek never was finding things wrong with my work. I dont really see whats wrong with bloos work it looks good to me.

MarkB 09-23-2003 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by konidias

Eh, it's bloo's problem though, not yours. Maybe he finds something wrong with everything bloo makes? I mean it's not like it's impossible. Everyone has flaws and there is always room for improvement.


There is a big difference in constructive critisism and plain "bashing".

I have seen nothing "amazing" from Deek, yet he talks like he rocks with Picasso and shiz.

davidpsy 09-23-2003 02:33 AM

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There is a big difference in constructive critisism and plain "bashing".

I have seen nothing "amazing" from Deek, yet he talks like he rocks with Picasso and shiz.

Deek a while ago said I could have everything from this screenshot for sans because he thought wc was not using it. But he was so I told deek I would just make a tree like it which I did and I'm not showing now. Deek made this like a year ago I think.

konidias 09-23-2003 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by MarkB



There is a big difference in constructive critisism and plain "bashing".

I have seen nothing "amazing" from Deek, yet he talks like he rocks with Picasso and shiz.

He can talk about how great he is all he wants. You shouldn't get so worked up over it. If you know for a fact that he isn't that talented, that is all you should need. You don't need to sit here and rank bloo over him, you're only adding fuel to the fire.

Maybe he's bashed him in other threads, but like I said, I really don't see his post in this thread as bashing, it looked more like he was just pointing out some problems with the graphics, which I think most people would agree with.

How can you expect bloo to get better if everyone just tells him his graphics are great? You're not being any better yourself, sitting here slamming Deek the way you are.

Deek2 09-23-2003 02:38 AM

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There is a big difference in constructive critisism and plain "bashing".

Oh, what's this? You're sounding like you aren't bashing me?Hypocrite. There's a fine line between bashing someone and giving them critisism. If I was bashing him, then I could arguably tell you that I would insult him in other topics besides his work.

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I have seen nothing "amazing" from Deek, yet he talks like he rocks with Picasso and shiz.
I don't like Picasso's work.

MarkB 09-23-2003 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by konidias


He can talk about how great he is all he wants. You shouldn't get so worked up over it. If you know for a fact that he isn't that talented, that is all you should need. You don't need to sit here and rank bloo over him, you're only adding fuel to the fire.

Maybe he's bashed him in other threads, but like I said, I really don't see his post in this thread as bashing, it looked more like he was just pointing out some problems with the graphics, which I think most people would agree with.

How can you expect bloo to get better if everyone just tells him his graphics are great? You're not being any better yourself, sitting here slamming Deek the way you are.

I never asked deek to post in this thread, he likes to act VERY over confident and conceited. Let me find a quote from him before.

Python523 09-23-2003 02:45 AM

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I never asked deek to post in this thread, he likes to act VERY over confident and conceited. Let me find a quote from him before.

by posting here you asked for the community in general to tell you their opinions, you didn't say 'everyone reply except deek'

konidias 09-23-2003 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by MarkB


I never asked deek to post in this thread, he likes to act VERY over confident and conceited. Let me find a quote from him before.

LoL, uhh yeah, I don't think he needs your permission to post. :p

It's not like I'm trying to defend him for every post he's made towards bloo kat, I'm just pointing out that his post in this thread didn't seem that offensive to me.

You can't punish him in this thread for posts he's made elsewhere.

Deek2 09-23-2003 02:48 AM

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Originally posted by MarkB


I never asked deek to post in this thread, he likes to act VERY over confident and conceited. Let me find a quote from him before.

And I never asked you to comment me. That's how senseless that post was.

And I might add: If you don't think I'm soo great, then why did you PM me a while back asking me to work for your server?
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Deek, it is me anU, from Bravo, how would you like to GFX for me on my new server? I need good GFXers and Scripters.
And now your saying I'm not good at GFX? Well, which one is it, liar?

Soul-Blade 09-23-2003 02:57 AM

Sorry, I really don't want to take sides or anything, but I agree with deek & konidias.

Bloo is obviously a great graphics designer; any sane person can see that. But deek is also amazing. Anyway, I'm not here to say one is better then the other, or whatever, I'm just gonna say it looked pretty reasonable what he said.

I know for a fact, as I am living proof, that pointing out flaws rather then saying how great something is will only improve people. When I used to get complimented a ton from Murasamune screenshots, it got my ego so high I was blinded by it. When people started to dislike my work, or start to compliment Faheria or something, I slowly began to lesson my ego, and eventually I have a small amount of pride in what I do, rather then an ego. From that day on every time I make a graphic I improve and learn more.

What I'm trying to say is rather then see that he posted all negatives, see that he gave you areas to improve upon, then improve on it. That way, next time, there will be nothing to complain about and they will compliment. That is how progression is made, not by complaining and saying how they insulted you...

Deek2 09-23-2003 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade
Sorry, I really don't want to take sides or anything, but I agree with deek & konidias.

Bloo is obviously a great graphics designer; any sane person can see that. But deek is also amazing. Anyway, I'm not here to say one is better then the other, or whatever, I'm just gonna say it looked pretty reasonable what he said.

I know for a fact, as I am living proof, that pointing out flaws rather then saying how great something is will only improve people. When I used to get complimented a ton from Murasamune screenshots, it got my ego so high I was blinded by it. When people started to dislike my work, or start to compliment Faheria or something, I slowly began to lesson my ego, and eventually I have a small amount of pride in what I do, rather then an ego. From that day on every time I make a graphic I improve and learn more.

What I'm trying to say is rather then see that he posted all negatives, see that he gave you areas to improve upon, then improve on it. That way, next time, there will be nothing to complain about and they will compliment. That is how progression is made, not by complaining and saying how they insulted you...

Precisely. And, from what I see, he hasn't even taken my compliments seriously. What good is it to 'constructively' critisize someone if they aren't even going to improve their work from it? Sorry if I'm not so peachy poofy crystal unicorn princess nice when I critisize people's work, but it's better that I say "This is of poor quality. You need to work on this and this and this" rather than "OMG BLOO NICE WERK OGM WERK ON MY SERVER I GIV U LVL 4 RC111!111 "

davidpsy 09-23-2003 03:26 AM

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Precisely. And, from what I see, he hasn't even taken my compliments seriously. What good is it to 'constructively' critisize someone if they aren't even going to improve their work from it? Sorry if I'm not so peachy poofy crystal unicorn princess nice when I critisize people's work, but it's better that I say "This is of poor quality. You need to work on this and this and this" rather than "OMG BLOO NICE WERK OGM WERK ON MY SERVER I GIV U LVL 4 RC111!111 "


Well you have got to understand that when people make graphic they put a lot work into and when people critisize it they get a tad offencive.


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