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Kinatt 03-08-2003 12:02 AM

Why should other nation if other america isn't going to disarm.

PS I have so much firepower in my pants I could blow up the energizer bunny.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 03-08-2003 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Googi


Good gun control and free health care are a considerable difference.

Yes. Good gun "control". The one that is costing us a billion dollars and hasn't been implemented yet

Tell me. If you were a criminal, would you tell the government you have a gun? "Omg look here I have an illegal firearm I will commit crimes with. I will register it so they can trace it down to god knows where and they can eventually find me!"

Devil 03-08-2003 12:30 PM

And why doesn't anyone have anything to say about my last post, I'm speaking to you Americans, answer it.

-Brett

Devil 03-08-2003 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
America's control over the world is nothing to do with rights. They appoint themselves as planetary watchdog because they believe that it will make the world a better place. Which may indeed be the case.
You're not American, I wanted to see an american stick up for themselves. You didn't answer my question, but you may not have tried, ANYWAY, It's double standards as far as I care, if one country (America) can have weapons of war, why can't another country?

-Brett

Devil 03-08-2003 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Depends. In some situations the answer would be: Because they would use those weapons to blow people to pieces. In others it is less clear-cut. I believe that there should be a force regulating power among the nations. Whether or not that should be America, though, is a different story.

Haha like that's going to happen in our lifetime, maybe when all the nations come together in a war and blow the world up, then we won't have to worry about it, with the first bit of your post, who says America wont use it to blow up Iraq, and all their people to pieces.

-Brett

Devil 03-08-2003 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


I agree that it's a potentially dangerous situation. I'm just arguing that America's actions are not inherently evil - if they are just trying to stabilise the world and make it a better place then, from a moral standpoint, they are to be commended.

Yeah but you don't know exactly what they're doing, they see the bigger picture, we don't.

-Brett

Devil 03-08-2003 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Oh, I know, which is why I'm not saying they have good intentions; I'm saying that they might have good intentions. One way or another, you can't definitively damn them just for trying to control the amount of power nations have, because you don't know their intentions. It could be a nice act, it could be an evil act, but it's probably somewhere in between.

Well it's not use just me and you discussing this, I'll wait for Americans to come on.

-Brett

MrCharles 03-08-2003 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Devil


You're not American, I wanted to see an american stick up for themselves. You didn't answer my question, but you may not have tried, ANYWAY, It's double standards as far as I care, if one country (America) can have weapons of war, why can't another country?

-Brett


We dont let places like Iraqq have them because... they are irresponsible with them and will kill a lot of people, America has proven themselves responsible with them.

Soul-Blade 03-09-2003 12:52 AM

Are you insane? Iraq has a madman as a leader! Every country should be supporting the U.S. in war against Iraq. If he has weapons of mass descruction, he will use them against his own people and our allies. There is NOTHING wrong with trying to prevent him from doing so.

As for the COMPLETE IDIOT talking about history books, please get informed on the area. They tell us everything, *****, including everything to do with the vietnam war and our failure, and they tell of war we start. How dumb are you? This is a free country, they cannot control what we read, and what we can read. That comment you made was so idiotic its just unbelievable...

Neoreno 03-09-2003 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by Soul-Blade

As for the COMPLETE IDIOT talking about history books, please get informed on the area. They tell us everything, *****, including everything to do with the vietnam war and our failure, and they tell of war we start. How dumb are you? This is a free country, they cannot control what we read, and what we can read. That comment you made was so idiotic its just unbelievable...

So naive.

But I do agree with your point that Saddam has to go.

Neonight 03-12-2003 01:31 AM

Re: You wanna know the problem? Here's the ****ing problem.
 
Brad, the only thing I ask you is if you want to play CS. :(

Then again, I bugged you to give me back that 1,000g that "mysteriously" disappeared. ;D

Soul-Blade 03-12-2003 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Googi


That's the point, you're not supposed to know that the media has such great psychological control over people. Arguably they're more powerful than government. Of course, it's that way in all commercialized countries, not just the United States.



The average desperate poor guy who wants to hold up a store doesn't have the money to pay black market prices, however. And I can point out that Canada's crime rate, especially rape and murder, is a great deal lower than that of the United States.



They're the same as the American ones. They still get paid, just by the government.

Hmm, missed this post. Anywho...I don't believe that media has nearly as much "control" as everyone says. There are many who don't even watch T.V. much (I don't, probably on average 2-5 minutes a day).

Think about this on for a second. Canada's population is only that of (well, less then) California. California is 1 of 50 US States. With this in mind...the US has a WAY bigger population then Canada does. The numbers don't count, its the RATIO that would count.

And, getting paid by the government is usually never enough. When someone in another country gets injured, where are they likely to send them? To the US doctors. Is that just coincidence? I don't see them saying "To Canada, immediatly!". Point is, it may be much more expensive, but the fact remains you will find better doctors (much better, in some cases) here.

Once again. To the ***** talking about American history books. You are a complete idiot. Please, go do some research before saying such stupid things.

Soul-Blade 03-14-2003 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Then you're very naive, but that's your prerogative. Consider that the media also influences you indirectly through the people you know.



And obviously he's talking about ratios.



Your evidence is pretty poor. There are all kinds of factors that could account for the (unproven) phenomenon you describe.



Sure, sure. But you're not really presenting any points - he could say the exact same thing right back to you and it wouldn't be any more or less valid.

Just think about what you are saying. I don't care if people choose to live in ignorance, but if you care about being educated then do some research. Any intelligent person can see the error in what you, and those others, are saying.

melissa1988 03-14-2003 06:35 AM

Dude...textbooks DO leave stuff out...there's no possible way to include EVERYTHING, so they have to pick the most significant things and water down others to fit the material into one course...

Soul-Blade 03-15-2003 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by melissa1988
Dude...textbooks DO leave stuff out...there's no possible way to include EVERYTHING, so they have to pick the most significant things and water down others to fit the material into one course...
Well, of course things like a world history book is summarized to the extreme (yet they still weigh in over 1,000 pages o_O) but what they are wrongly saying is that they remove things which are negative towards the US, to make people more patriotic. That, of course, is not true. Patriotism comes from a appreciation and obligation to uphold the great things the founders of this country have done, and the great things people are doing. The need to protect our rights and our freedoms. At least, that is my case. I doubt it is something someone from another country can understand.


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