psst...I'm not trying to sterotype, it is just what I have noticed from time to time...it is not an definite thing for all staff even you should know that. I am just pointing out what most do because it is fairly evident.

You didn't say in your post that it happens from time to time though. You made it sound like that is what happens all the time.

This entire BBS is a SPAM free zone (with the exception of Not Graal forum), if there is SPAM around, it's the mod's job to delete it. If it's not being deleted then there is a problem. Yes, we need some sort of head board admin that can take care of several things. Like setting rules, making sure that all of the mods ENFORCE the rules. Unixmad and Stefan ARE too busy for this, basically we need another "Galen" figure to step in.

I do not delete SPAM on my board because it is not against the rules. I also do not delete flames unless they are made to insult or harm directly, there is nothing wrong with arguing! If there are too many threads on one subject there is something called MERGE which some lazy (or too busy with other projects!) mods around here can't seem to use. I don't make rules, I enforce them. Now, if I was an admin, then yes I would make rules and see that they are followed, but that is not what I am here for.

And that brings me to my next thing. People around here are so quick to lay blame on the mods and demand threads deleted. I know because I am a mod, and I get many PMs about this. The great Gandalf said, "not even the wise can see all ends." Threads that at first glance may appear offensive to some, or worthless can have positive outcomes. Ideas are born, opinions are changed, friendships surface. Don't be so quick to sentence deletion to a thread unless it is a blatant violation of the rules.

I would much rather EDIT threads for content but that can be difficult in large threads. I still wish I could edit threads "on the fly" by using the "edit/delete" button next to the particular post. It would be so much easier, but instead I have to WADE through the entire thread and edit/delete/save each post individually. It is a real hastle and does not make my job easier.

Anyways, I know this thread is mostly about Graal 2002, and I wasn't going to even say much, but the forums are my concern too (as you say they are yours, so...) I may be a very low level mod of little importance but I take my position seriously. On the other hand, if people would NOT TAKE THE FORUM SO SERIOUSLY then it *would* be more fun for them. So my advice to everyone, unless the thread directly is against the rules, and you dislike the thread for some reason, just ignore it.

Hehe, end rant

I thought all HLM for 2001 got was his levels going online.. I didnt even know he got WARPTO... and I want to help 2001 just like alkaren wants to help the forums.. Im being honest.. I just never wanted to ask for it because I thought id get flamed by people telling me to die..

There are something that are given and don't really need to be said. I am sorry if you misunderstood me.

I have never really cared much about what people though or said of me. As I have said many times before; my goal/s on a message board has never been, to become popular.

I just want to make levels for 2001...

I think most (notice I said most not all) moderators here take their job too lightly and don't delete threads just so people don't argue about them deleting their threads. If the thread is pointless, hate, or garbage, then it needs to go.. it can't all be based on the mods personal opinion of the thread.

Sure people can argue and threads can be made about arguements, but if there is absolutely nothing positive about the post, then it needs to be deleted. It's one thing to say "this events team member didn't follow the rules because.." and then back it up with reasons on why that staff isn't doing the right thing and that some action needs to be taken.. instead of "THIS ET SUX BAN HIM 4 LIEF HE NEEDS TO DIE BC HE IS UNFARE IN HIS LAST EVENT"

Graal hasn't become anything for me. :)

It is still the same game I started playing so long ago, just with new architecture...

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There already is something like that...

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Nope there isn't and it's really needed.. I have everyone from friends to hackers in my buddy list.. I will be adding this to my list of improvements when I send to stefan :)

I am ignored once again... :(

As I said there should be a forum purely for spam where your post count doesn't raise if you post in there. Kinda like how Rumor Has It, is. This message board is not spam free. Everyone knows there is spam in almost every single form. But you may not see everything as spam while others do. Herein lies a problem. What counts as spam? Really what is considered spam is at a mod's descretion. Spam can not be stopped; it's just simply can't be done. Well, have an active message board without spam, unless you moderate every single post, and every single thread. But then, how can that message board truely be considered active? Everything is not in real time; it is whenever a mod or admin checks the post and decides it can be posted, and who knows when that might be?

One wonders if you know truely what flaming is? Flaming is not just petty arguing. It is a very crude form of insult others while at the same time arguing and trying to get your point across. There are better things than flaming though, as a friend of mine once told me....took me nearly half a year to understand what he meant...I understand now though. Anyway, there is a difference between arguement and flaming.


Merge, edit, delete, stick, unstick, all such things are tools; not solutions.


Part of having modship is keeping your forum in order, and rules are needed sometimes for such things. You have the ability to make rules. While there are very few rules to enforce right now, if any.


Actually, it would be the great Tolkien who said that, not Gandalf. Gandalf is a fictional character created by a writing genius. :)

People here don't lay blame that much on the mods.

You say that threads should be given a chance even though they are offensive to some. Yet you criticize other mods for not using merge when there are more than one topic on the same subject. People have different opinions and as such may wish to express them in a different way than someone else might, so they create a new thread expressing their opinions there and so a new dicussion(sp) is formed. You would rather just throw such things together ignoring the fact that the topic may be about the same thing, but may also be different by discussing a different part of the same thing then others might.

This makes no sense to me as to why you would say such a thing and then turn around and say something like above.


You should be able to do such a thing. All mods have that ability. Unless some of your extra privliages were removed.


Once again, you confuse me. You tell me not to take the forums so seriously, yet you claim to take your job *very* seriously, which in itself is the same thing as taking the forums very seriously.

wow another thread where konidias wants more power, these are just getting old.

Perhaps some mods do not delete threads becuase they don't want to be confronted with the maker of the thread, that is possible. But that is a pretty weak reason, if the mod can't handle doing that then they do not need to be a mod. I delete many threads, and I have been *****ed at by thread starters when they find their thread gone, some even go so far as to complain to me on AIM even if I have never even talked to them before. I mean, being a mod does have it's negative sides. Somedays I can barely get any time away from the forum because there is so much activity there that needs to be watched over.

"If the thread is pointless, hate, or garbage, then it needs to go.. it can't all be based on the mods personal opinion of the thread."

When there are rules in effect, opinions are always going to be involved. Rules are interpreted differently, and they will be by each mod. What constitutes pointless hate-filled garbage threads is YOUR opinion, and to me and someone else it could be different.

Now, in the example you gave above of what is a good post, and what is a bad post, I agree the later one is pretty useless. It would probably be deleted because it gives no reasons for why the ET member does a bad job, and even INSULTS the ET member which is not the way to solve problems. Most levelheaded mods can tell that right away. But most threads are not like that and it's more complex to decide if it's a "good" or "bad" thread.

Actually, the largest problem is that there are very few active mods.