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Geno 09-12-2012 05:51 AM

WoW and Guild Wars 2 just got released on steam! so awesome! why isnt graal on steam?!

Tim_Rocks 09-12-2012 06:39 AM

v6 needs to become a stable release that everyone is forced to use.

xXziroXx 09-12-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1703620)
It actually does matter, since iOS is a modified version of v6. The reason is simple though, keep everyone running the same version, v6. It makes scripting easier and I don't have to make multiple versions just to support v5.

To the average player though, they don't care.

No, it really doesn't matter. I've played iEra on multiple occasions using v5, and so far I haven't encountered a single bug with it.

Tim_Rocks 09-12-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1703630)
No, it really doesn't matter. I've played iEra on multiple occasions using v5, and so far I haven't encountered a single bug with it.

Hi, maybe you didn't actually read what I said, let me spell it out for you. Development wise we want to keep everyone on the same version. Makes coding scripts easier since everyones going to see the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1703620)
To the average player though, they don't care.

Which is why I partially agree with you, but I no longer care why you guys use v5, so as a developer, I'm not gonna waste my time supporting it. So if I was in any place to say "Yes, let's allow everyone on iServers." The answer would be no, because I'd have to waste my time debugging just to figure out why you're having a v5 issue..

Short Version: Waste of my time.

Crono 09-12-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1703624)
v6 needs to become a stable release that everyone is forced to use.

Needs to become better before everyone is forced to use it.

xXziroXx 09-12-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1703631)
Hi, maybe you didn't actually read what I said, let me spell it out for you. Development wise we want to keep everyone on the same version. Makes coding scripts easier since everyones going to see the same thing.

Hi, I spend my days thinking I'm cool on an internet community where I've accomplished absolutely nothing too!

Oh wait, no, that's just you.

I know the differences between v5 and v6 development wise just as good as anyone else, seeing how I made an entire server from scratch and had to script it for both versions.

Get off your not-as-high-as-you-think horse already.

Tim_Rocks 09-12-2012 06:28 PM

I am not on some high horse, it makes more sense for everyone to be using the same version of Graal. Ignorance is bliss.


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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1703632)
Needs to become better before everyone is forced to use it.

Thanks, Crono. Pretty much what I meant by "stable".

Crono 09-12-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1703642)
Thanks, Crono.

Stability is not the same thing as aesthetics or functionality.

Tim_Rocks 09-12-2012 06:38 PM

The only issue that's a major problem is the FPS, which I've only seen happen on one of my PC's. That needs to be fixed if there's going to be a forced release.

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1703643)
Stability is not the same thing as aesthetics or functionality.

Just going to assume you're talking about the player list, get used to that I suppose, I really don't think they'll be making any changes to it.

Crono 09-12-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1703645)
Just going to assume you're talking about the player list, get used to that I suppose, I really don't think they'll be making any changes to it.

Playerlist, profiles, the way new Windows are opened, fonts, etc. FP4 compiled a cute list somewhere but I'd have to dig it up to find it.

Tim_Rocks 09-12-2012 06:47 PM

Playerlist, and profiles seem fine to me? Do you just not like the change?

Another glitch would be highlight and leaving the window with your mouse, but that works okay for me since I'm on a Mac..

Stephen 09-12-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1703646)
Playerlist, profiles, the way new Windows are opened, fonts, etc. FP4 compiled a cute list somewhere but I'd have to dig it up to find it.

I never really got the whole "down with V6 hu-ra-ra" stuff. It IS different from V5 in a lot of ways, but not all of them are bad. There are a few frustrating kinks but nothing that would prevent V6 from being a viable replacement. What's the big problem?

:confused:

xXziroXx 09-12-2012 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1703648)
I never really got the whole "down with V6 hu-ra-ra" stuff. It IS different from V5 in a lot of ways, but not all of them are bad. There are a few frustrating kinks but nothing that would prevent V6 from being a viable replacement. What's the big problem?

:confused:

The only real problem is the playerlist difference. v6 is overall so much nicer though, that I'm willing to overlook that.

DustyPorViva 09-12-2012 06:56 PM

Texting highlighting being broken, playerlist not opening when the client is maximized and various quirks like that makes using v6 a painful experience imo.

Stephen 09-12-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1703650)
Texting highlighting being broken, playerlist not opening when the client is maximized and various quirks like that makes using v6 a painful experience imo.

The text highlighting and PM windows not staying centered (tiled PMs ftl) is both very annoying, but I find that V6 just runs better than V5... I don't use the fullscreen mode so I can't really comment on that.


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