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Mousymee 11-30-2007 09:41 PM

Bro, you don't have your position to work on things you like, you have it to work on things we, the players, like. You shouldn't refuse to work on things we want simply because you don't like them or they don't interest you.

dNeonb 11-30-2007 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mousymee (Post 1361488)
Bro, you don't have your position to work on things you like, you have it to work on things we, the players, like. You shouldn't refuse to work on things we want simply because you don't like them or they don't interest you.

I'm not your "Bro" just to clear this up.
And if you would have read my post then you would know that I also did exactly this. I worked on things I did not like. Please read before you post.


ViperZakuto, most of the bugs that appeared were caused by updates of the gserver and the npc-server. I don't think he will give a pice of that source code to anyone. Some were fixed more quickly, some others not, some still might need a "fix" in some players opinion even if it's the way it should work and some bugs really need a fix but are still not.

Felix_Xenophobe 11-30-2007 10:24 PM

This is just epic lol.
I give GK 1 more year tops.

ViperZakuto 11-30-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb (Post 1361490)
ViperZakuto, most of the bugs that appeared were caused by updates of the gserver and the npc-server. I don't think he will give a pice of that source code to anyone. Some were fixed more quickly, some others not, some still might need a "fix" in some players opinion even if it's the way it should work and some bugs really need a fix but are still not.

bugs that have appeared? they have been here for years. Agility bug for example. I went from 20-68 agility in one week playing time. This bug was posted 2 years ago??? Now anser me why Stefan chooses to ignore this server.

IMO, If he will not give the code to anybody, then he needs to stop what he is doin and fix the server. Updates are nice.. but you also still have to fix the current issues.

DraxxTeazok 11-30-2007 11:25 PM

there you are again, taking the same "i do what i have to" stance on every issue. no matter how you word it, the facts remain the same, ITS NOT WORKING! Your server is going to die as long as keep up this bull. If you are watching the server die and not changing the way things are done, or trying to get stefan to do things that you cant, then you ARE surely doomed.

If "only stefan can do that" then you should have reminded him 1000 times by now, every time you see him, you need to say "hey stefan, postal system still doesn't work". Its obvious if any single one of us were you we would be calling stefans phone at this point begging him to make a difference. Hell, if you would have spent this time working instead of typing on the forums you could have actually done something significant.

And its not my job to find scripters for your game, its not my job to do GFX for your game. No one pays me to work for you. I pay the game to have fun, and thats not even happening now. I would love to see you try and take your attitude to any other job in existance and see how long it takes you to get fired. "i was gonna stock the shelves but no one opened the boxes for me". When the store is going under because the customers cant find a product they would like to pay for, generally a REAL company would have you replaced with someone who knows how to open the boxes too. But then again, i dont know how things are done in germany. Maybe you guys prefer the "sit and wait for someone else to do the job" approach, but i dont.

And telling us to find someone to script our own ideas is just ignorant, i have never found anyone who even knows how to script in GKs style, because you would never allow them to have rights to view your scripts to learn from, and you know that, i have told you many times already.

And yes, you did tell me that you would not script my fishing system (which even you said was a good idea), you said "when you get the gfx for the wild plants done i'll work on it, but im not even gonna touch the fishing script" so i stopped working on it. If you expect me to spend weeks of my life coming up with good ideas, doing GFX, writing a system for it, finding a good enough scripter, adding it to debug, waiting hours to find you, having you approve it, having you transfer it...for free....well, you have another thing coming. No matter how you want to look at it, your attitude is going to put you out of a job, because we are not going to pay you again to come back to a server that has nothing to offer when todays 3D games far exceed yours.

cyan3 12-01-2007 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperZakuto (Post 1361517)
I went from 20-68 agility in one week playing time.

Leveling agility is not a bug.

ViperZakuto 12-01-2007 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1361544)
Leveling agility is not a bug.

it is when you can stand there and steal from a lord over and over like once a sec, all while your standing in one spot, with the lord jumping on you. Your supposed to have to be in front of the lord. I'm not going to tell you the exact way to do this.

If you level legitamitely it would take you way over 1 week of of playing time to lvl from lvl 20 to 68 agility.

Stephen 12-01-2007 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperZakuto (Post 1361570)
it is when you can stand there and steal from a lord over and over like once a sec, all while your standing in one spot, with the lord jumping on you. Your supposed to have to be in front of the lord. I'm not going to tell you the exact way to do this.

If you level legitamitely it would take you way over 1 week of of playing time to lvl from lvl 20 to 68 agility.

You're right - and it doesn't matter about the mechanics of it; Levelling shouldn't be easy.

Although that doesn't go to say it should be ridiculously hard - to the point of deterring players... which exactly what this is a reaction to - people who got to higher levels found the game unfinished. When I say unfinished I mean that there is nothing to the skill level of someone above... say... level 30? Anyone looking for a challenge at that point has to shift from a challenge of skill to one of patience - as they try to level up at a acceptable rate with monsters designed for lower level players.

And there really is no excuse on the administrations side. They could simply make a wolf like the current one but with the name "Elder Wolf" (or something equally lame) with higher attributes (such as damage, or HP).

ViperZakuto 12-01-2007 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1361571)
And there really is no excuse on the administrations side. They could simply make a wolf like the current one but with the name "Elder Wolf" (or something equally lame) with higher attributes (such as damage, or HP).

If you read one of Tig's post on the last page or page before. I think he is working on some monsters sometime =O

I think someone should take the mosters that gods are good against and make some... so they are all as useful as the other...

Felix_Xenophobe 12-01-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperZakuto (Post 1361570)

If you level legitamitely it would take you way over 1 week of of playing time to lvl from lvl 20 to 68 agility.

Blame the shoddy terrain.
I went from 24-78 agility in like 4 days.

ViperZakuto 12-01-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1361601)
Blame the shoddy terrain.
I went from 24-78 agility in like 4 days.

see this needs to be fixed

FenixTheBanished 12-12-2007 01:46 PM

Okay it has been two weeks and we have yet to see Bjorn online helping Tig develop and test and anything that he has done so far.

This is clear evidence that Bjorn does NOT care. I understand he had some problems with the internet or something, but the problems were fixed days ago and I have seen him on ONCE since then, and Im more or less on a good amount of time.

This is why we need another admin, and as I feared once people were quite about this topic the problem would just go away and bjorn could go being lazy and unproductive as usual and no one would say anything or notice. We really need to get this **** rolling in a forward motion. That means if you have Debug please help Tig test some of his new things out and just ask him if you can help in any way. No one else is going to do it so lets do it! I will start to help him when i EVENTUALLY get Forest Debug because Bjorn is being lazy, once again.

Please dont like Bjorn kill Gk... come on you guys.

Ravenblade1979 12-12-2007 04:34 PM

From what I hear Bjorn has been helping Tig on debug with a few projects. Just because he doesn't show up on Graal Kingdoms RC don't mean he's not on the debug server itself.

Umm ok first of all Draxx needs to ask for you to be added to debug. As he is king...or Daya can ask...either one. But you can't just ask yourself and expect to be added. And if Draxx or Daya already made the request then maybe talk to Stefan about adding you on for Forest Debug.

I am keen to bash Bjorn like the next person knowing what he's actually done but then I have to remember what he really does do for the server that no one sees. Although I wish he would make a email account just for ppl who don't know to forum pm him so stuff like house levels can be uploaded and ideas can flow in.

dNeonb 12-12-2007 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1363438)
I wish he would make a email account just for ppl who don't know to forum pm him so stuff like house levels can be uploaded and ideas can flow in.

I wish my graalonline mail would work again. Somehow I can't connect to the mail server for ages and I have no clue why.

About the new thing, well there is going to be something Tig and I well also orginally Stefan with the basic idea are working on. It will change GK a little and people will also actually see it. It also solves complainments about the current and old "trials in bomboria" situation. - But wait and see yourself.

Ravenblade1979 12-12-2007 09:15 PM

I can't wait bjorn.

FenixTheBanished 12-12-2007 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1363438)
Umm ok first of all Draxx needs to ask for you to be added to debug. As he is king...or Daya can ask...either one. But you can't just ask yourself and expect to be added. And if Draxx or Daya already made the request then maybe talk to Stefan about adding you on for Forest Debug.

I am keen to bash Bjorn like the next person knowing what he's actually done but then I have to remember what he really does do for the server that no one sees. Although I wish he would make a email account just for ppl who don't know to forum pm him so stuff like house levels can be uploaded and ideas can flow in.

Draxx did send him a Forum PM to have me added and bjorn magically "didn't get it" and Draxx himself even said in this forum about how he already sent it, therefore in just the thread alone he already is saying he wants me on. And I spoke to Stefan first and he said itd be a couple days and now its weeks later and I have a forum PM i sent him 2 weeks ago that he hasnt even responded to, so theres both situations sorted.

01d_13g3nd 12-12-2007 11:15 PM

I agree Tig should be admin

Sam 12-12-2007 11:59 PM

Closed. You people do not discuss without bashing staff. Tig will not become an admin on GK yet. End of the story.


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