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WoRlaNN2k 01-06-2002 02:55 PM

You're right, you can't do that, thats another exception for not getting a refund. But games you can buy from a store, you could sell it back as a used product and recieve some of your money back. You can't buy Graal from a store because the game itself is free, but the service to play P2P are not.

Valder 01-06-2002 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k
You're right, you can't do that, thats another exception for not getting a refund. But games you can buy from a store, you could sell it back as a used product and recieve some of your money back. You can't buy Graal from a store because the game itself is free, but the service to play P2P are not.
Then sell your account on classic for like 26593165931659362150631050163205610 "gelats". There, you got some of your money back.

Torankusu 01-06-2002 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k
You're right, you can't do that, thats another exception for not getting a refund. But games you can buy from a store, you could sell it back as a used product and recieve some of your money back. You can't buy Graal from a store because the game itself is free, but the service to play P2P are not.
But you still cannot get a refund after you have bought a p2p account. Even if they delete your account for some stupid reason.

WoRlaNN2k 01-06-2002 02:57 PM

funny money means nothing to me, nor should it to anyone else

ZanderX 01-06-2002 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k
You're right, you can't do that, thats another exception for not getting a refund. But games you can buy from a store, you could sell it back as a used product and recieve some of your money back. You can't buy Graal from a store because the game itself is free, but the service to play P2P are not.

Whee reply to my post which made a point have a nice day.

Torankusu 01-06-2002 02:58 PM

Or, you could sell your brain to a peanut bottling/canning/packaging factory. They could easily pass it off (as a peanut).

G_yoshi 01-06-2002 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k


I've said it many times. I will say it once more only. If you have payed for a game but are not satisfied with it, then you can get a refund. With a few exceptions. If you hack or have owned the game for a long time, then you won't get your money at all. End of story

Um, just for you, I think Stefan needs to amend to the rules an actual time length before your "refund" is null. You seem to think that this imaginary refund exists...I hope the imaginary stefan you created will give it to you :)

Valder 01-06-2002 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Or, you could sell your brain to a peanut bottling/canning/packaging factory. They could easily pass it off (as a peanut).
Maybe as an even smaller thing, maybe an ameba or a hydra

Torankusu 01-06-2002 03:01 PM

Scientists/experimentalists will buy things like that.

His sense of logic is probably even smaller.

Beowulf2 01-06-2002 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Valder


Maybe as an even smaller thing, maybe an ameba or a hydra

No, he's more like a virus.

Valder 01-06-2002 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Beowulf2

No, he's more like a virus.

No because Viruses are smarter.

G_yoshi 01-06-2002 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Scientists/experimentalists will buy things like that.

His sense of logic is probably even smaller.

I smell a lobotamy(sp?) ;)

some quick! anestatize(sp?) him so we can opperate!

Beowulf2 01-06-2002 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Valder


No because Viruses are smarter.

And they change to fit their environments. This thing doesnt want to do that :(

Torankusu 01-06-2002 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Valder


No because Viruses are smarter.

The people in your signature-- who are they? What game/show are they from?

WoRlaNN2k 01-06-2002 03:09 PM

*sigh* FINE FINE!!! I raise an intelligent point yet i get flamed at. That, people, proves your idiocy. I just say WHAT IF and you treat it as I WANT MY MONEY BACK RIGHT NOW GIMME GIMME. And I have proven facts but you people are blind and are willing to repeatadly pay for something that you shouldn't pay for in the first place... I don't give a **** anymore (oh no i said the "s" word), i just raise a point and people hate me. I will end this argument because i already won when I started.

I am not mad at you people that have called me names for no reason. All i wanted to do was raise a point, but it seems that you can't handle it so i won't try to raise any more intelligent statements. I feel really sorry for you people.

ZanderX 01-06-2002 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k
*sigh* FINE FINE!!! I raise an intelligent point yet i get flamed at. That, people, proves your idiocy. I just say WHAT IF and you treat it as I WANT MY MONEY BACK RIGHT NOW GIMME GIMME. And I have proven facts but you people are blind and are willing to repeatadly pay for something that you shouldn't pay for in the first place... I don't give a **** anymore (oh no i said the "s" word), i just raise a point and people hate me. I will end this argument because i already won when I started.

I am not mad at you people that have called me names for no reason. All i wanted to do was raise a point, but it seems that you can't handle it so i won't try to raise any more intelligent statements. I feel really sorry for you people.


You raised a point and we defeated it.


These are discussion forums; we discussed, and you lost...

I like Graal, I willingly would pay for it if I had the money anymore, it's a very fun game.

Now, please answer my question. :)

WoRlaNN2k 01-06-2002 03:11 PM

and what question is that? i already have answered your questions.

G_yoshi 01-06-2002 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k
*sigh* FINE FINE!!! I raise an intelligent point yet i get flamed at. That, people, proves your idiocy. I just say WHAT IF and you treat it as I WANT MY MONEY BACK RIGHT NOW GIMME GIMME. And I have proven facts but you people are blind and are willing to repeatadly pay for something that you shouldn't pay for in the first place... I don't give a **** anymore (oh no i said the "s" word), i just raise a point and people hate me. I will end this argument because i already won when I started.

I am not mad at you people that have called me names for no reason. All i wanted to do was raise a point, but it seems that you can't handle it so i won't try to raise any more intelligent statements. I feel really sorry for you people.

I didn't blindly pay for graal..I knew what I was doing and was well aware of the risk I was taking...I took the risk and have seen that nothing is wrong on the other side. And why should we not pay for the service? It's not free to Stefan or unixmad ;)

ZanderX 01-06-2002 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k
and what question is that? i already have answered your questions.

You have not answered my question on:


How you have a right to a refund. :)

Torankusu 01-06-2002 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k
*sigh* FINE FINE!!! I raise an intelligent point yet i get flamed at. That, people, proves your idiocy. I just say WHAT IF and you treat it as I WANT MY MONEY BACK RIGHT NOW GIMME GIMME. And I have proven facts but you people are blind and are willing to repeatadly pay for something that you shouldn't pay for in the first place... I don't give a **** anymore (oh no i said the "s" word), i just raise a point and people hate me. I will end this argument because i already won when I started.

I am not mad at you people that have called me names for no reason. All i wanted to do was raise a point, but it seems that you can't handle it so i won't try to raise any more intelligent statements. I feel really sorry for you people.

You had no points. You THOUGHT you were right because you THOUGHT you heard and saw stefan giving refunds every day.

Also, you assumed that we'd pay for graal again.

WoRlaNN2k 01-06-2002 03:18 PM

exactly! i was making "what if this happend, what would you do?" points. I wasn't actually trying to say that it will happen.
And no i didn't say stefan would give refunds everyday. I only said i heard him say that he would give refunds if you are not satisfied with graal.

Torankusu 01-06-2002 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k
exactly! i was making "what if this happend, what would you do?" points. I wasn't actually trying to say that it will happen
But you said we would? Don't use "what if..." examples or acts and tell us that it is what we will do, and that we are blind and brainwashed.

Idiot. ;\

ZanderX 01-06-2002 03:19 PM

answer my question :(

zerothonline 01-06-2002 03:19 PM

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we should get refunds

WoRlaNN2k 01-06-2002 03:20 PM

I never told you what to do

Torankusu 01-06-2002 03:20 PM

KAMUII'S QUESTION:

Which french law states that games, and other things, HAVE to give refunds; no matter whay?

OK!@@

zerothonline 01-06-2002 03:20 PM

i always hear stefan say stuff like he will happily refund!

G_yoshi 01-06-2002 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
You had no points. You THOUGHT you were right because you THOUGHT you heard and saw stefan giving refunds every day.

Also, you assumed that we'd pay for graal again.

I plan on renewing when the time comes :) Graal Online is by far probably the cheapest online game service (free services do not count as you don't pay for them :p)

Torankusu 01-06-2002 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by zerothonline
i always hear stefan say stuff like he will happily refund!
aside from "i will ban your account," or "your account is banned, reason:" Right?

WoRlaNN2k 01-06-2002 03:23 PM

zanderx, i don't know the answer to your question.

Faheria_LAT1 01-06-2002 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
KAMUII'S QUESTION:

Which french law states that games, and other things, HAVE to give refunds; no matter whay?

OK!@@

The Worlann law page 28 paragraph 98 line 54.

ZanderX 01-06-2002 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k
zanderx, i don't know the answer to your question.

Then your entire point about us having the right to a refund is null. :)

WoRlaNN2k 01-06-2002 03:25 PM

i mean i don't know how to answer in a way you would understand. I've answered it already but i guess i'm not clear enough.

G_yoshi 01-06-2002 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k
zanderx, i don't know the answer to your question.
uh oh...you lose :O

ZanderX 01-06-2002 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by WoRlaNN2k
i mean i don't know how to answer in a way you would understand

It's very simple.


You point out the law where it says we have the right to a refund.

If you can't, then you do not know the answer, and thus lose.

WoRlaNN2k 01-06-2002 03:28 PM

Fine I give up, I lose. It seems that you cannot understand what i am saying so you might aswell end this argument now. But as i said, im not going to fall in that trap where i lose money to a game.

Torankusu 01-06-2002 03:28 PM

In the end, it's really not cheap.

I bought half-life for $30, and it came with like three games on it, and six or so I could download. Most multiplayer, and a few both (one and multiplayer.) It's one of the greatest games I've ever bothered to buy for computer.

Graal, you have to pay about $30 every year for about three updates a year.

Faheria_LAT1 01-06-2002 03:28 PM

NPC Code:
Worlann has been owned by Kamuii on January 6th 2002 at 3:25 AM, EST Time!



w00t, there should be a "Ownage" button on this forum o_O

WoRlaNN2k 01-06-2002 03:31 PM

as for you Lat1 what ever you name is. I have not been owned yet. I only surrenderd because you can't understand what im saying so its pointless to go on. You i have no respect for at all. As for everyone else, they are ok.

G_yoshi 01-06-2002 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
In the end, it's really not cheap.

I bought half-life for $30, and it came with like three games on it, and six or so I could download. Most multiplayer, and a few both (one and multiplayer.) It's one of the greatest games I've ever bothered to buy for computer.

Graal, you have to pay about $30 every year for about three updates a year.

I was equating Graal online's game service to other gaming services such as Everquest or Ultima Online (I have played niether of those games yet).


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