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salesman 06-08-2009 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikedude (Post 1497948)
Monty, first off, this is a newspaper. While creativity should be embraced, newspapers don't exactly need to be unpredictable. What's the last newspaper you ordered in which the style wasn't "predictable?" The squares and "damage" to the newspaper are just visual decorations, so that it's not just a solid silver square with a picture on it. That's what makes the whole GUI look cool to begin with. And your argument about tapping a trillions of times, which takes longer and require more labor? Mining minerals, stocking weapons, and attempting to be more competitive than 1-4 other businesses or writing a short, 100- word entry to a newspaper where everyone has to buy it for 50 dollars from that store or else they're SOL?

and I think it's a little extreme to say "God help the rest of the future businesses" just because a monopolized, simple job isn't being paid.

"Don't take this post the wrong way, I'm not trying to single out your [post] and shred it to pieces."

It's a design contest not a "let's all submit the same thing and hope we get lucky" contest. As far as not getting paid, I think that's kind of silly...they should atleast get something.

Vman13x 06-08-2009 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1497954)
It's a design contest not a "let's all submit the same thing and hope we get lucky" contest. As far as not getting paid, I think that's kind of silly...they should atleast get something.

Free newspapers :D?

MontyPython 06-08-2009 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikedude (Post 1497948)
Monty, first off, this is a newspaper. While creativity should be embraced, newspapers don't exactly need to be unpredictable. What's the last newspaper you ordered in which the style wasn't "predictable?" The squares and "damage" to the newspaper are just visual decorations, so that it's not just a solid silver square with a picture on it. That's what makes the whole GUI look cool to begin with. And your argument about tapping a trillions of times, which takes longer and require more labor? Mining minerals, stocking weapons, and attempting to be more competitive than 1-4 other businesses or writing a short, 100- word entry to a newspaper where everyone has to buy it for 50 dollars from that store or else they're SOL?

and I think it's a little extreme to say "God help the rest of the future businesses" just because a monopolized, simple job isn't being paid.

"Don't take this post the wrong way, I'm not trying to single out your [post] and shred it to pieces."

I entirely agree with you, and I did say that he needs to think of utility in conjunction with creativity. I wouldn't have told him I liked the unpredictable nature of his set up if it didn't work. But from what I'm seeing of it right now, it does. Yes, most newspapers employ a rather generic, boring design set up. That doesn't mean you can't employ a new design that's still got utility but has a unique solution. God forbid we think outside of the box.

I don't really understand what you're saying about the squares/damage. I know they're visual decoration, and I said that. I didn't say they were bad, I said there's just too much going on. I also told him they don't all fit together well. Abstract squares + stains feels more like grabbing at random effects rather than a cohesive design decision. Sure, you can pat him on the back and tell him "That'd make a great GUI." Or you could try to help him find a way to incorporate his design to what his original intentions were: a newspaper.

Your choice, I guess.

For the writing:

Of course, it'd depend on how serious the person was writing it. Sure you could crank out 100 words of **** in a matter of minutes, but if you're taking it seriously you should get paid to do it.

And I hate to tell you, but coming up with ideas for an article, getting screenshots, doing interviews, etc. blah blah blah would take much more work than tapping A.

Mining can be macro'd.
Stocking can be macro'd.
So essentially, that hard work can be perfectly emulated by someone not even at their computer. Try macro'ing an article. Or an interview. See how far it gets you.
Tapping A while you watch television isn't hard work.
As for trying to compete with other business...The only difference in any of them is prices. AM, GP, or the unstuck me weapon store? Lowest price is all I'd care about. Speedy Pizza, Dippin' Donuts, Dairy Hut...who the **** cares? They all sell the same product, just a different graphic. CTRL+N.
So, in reality, the only thing the owner has to think about is "Should I have a sale, or not?"
That's not much work.

Vman13x 06-08-2009 10:35 PM

*sigh*
Do you always have to write so much?

cbk1994 06-08-2009 11:33 PM

Price changed to $25,000 since I failed at creating any graphic worth driving in. If I can find someone to make a better one before Friday, I'll change it back.

Also, on the topic of creativity ... yes, it's a newspaper. You're welcome to submit more than one image if you want, but really, we're going to pick the one that fits the newspaper theme the best, not the one that is the "best" graphic-wise (saying "design-wise" would not work, since "design" would take into account the purpose of the layout).

DazJenova 06-09-2009 01:16 AM

Only reason why i made Era News a non payable job because they didn't have a pernament system and what we had to do to get things uploaded didn't seem payable at all, this new system Chris is doing maybe's people who submit articles and such will get payed.

Spikedude 06-09-2009 03:39 AM

Template:
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6...wstemplate.png

Example:
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9...ewsexample.png

DuBsTeRmAn 06-09-2009 02:03 PM

I don't really like this one Amsel

Pelikano 06-09-2009 03:44 PM

I love it Amsel.

[email protected] 06-09-2009 05:56 PM

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/537...emperanews.png

Image form LightDamage

Spikedude 06-09-2009 07:55 PM

Agh, the colors aren't looking right on some computers. I'm on my mac now and it looks terrible. Well, if there's no winner by tomorrow I think I'll make a new one.

cbk1994 06-09-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikedude (Post 1498168)
Agh, the colors aren't looking right on some computers. I'm on my mac now and it looks terrible. Well, if there's no winner by tomorrow I think I'll make a new one.

It's not the computer, it's the color profile you're using. You can change it in System Preferences to one more Windows-like.

Screenshots of Mac look horrible on Windows for the same reason (too blue)

Spikedude 06-10-2009 12:13 AM

Template:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3...stemplate2.png

Example:
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2...wsexample2.png

salesman 06-10-2009 12:23 AM

I actually like that one, but there's a little too much empty space at the top imo

Spikedude 06-10-2009 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1498229)
I actually like that one, but there's a little too much empty space at the top imo

You could do like a small Letters to the Editor thing up there. Want me to try to put something up there?

Edit: Done

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2...wsexample2.png


http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/920...stemplate3.png


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