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Polo 02-21-2006 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
Does anyone else resent this comment? It implies that demanding competency is only an American trait.

Stefan was refering to how a lot of players like to just shout 'fire! fire! fire!' rather than speaking to the person or making an effort to understand the situation. It is, somewhat, taken out of context above. ^^

Loriel 02-21-2006 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
Does anyone else resent this comment? It implies that demanding competency is only an American trait.

WTF? No, it does not.

Mark Sir Link 02-23-2006 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
Does anyone else resent this comment? It implies that demanding competency is only an American trait.

Misinterpretation, when people beg for the firing of Storm, they demand perfection

Vintersorg 02-24-2006 02:01 PM

When you started this thread, I decided to Forum PM Stefan in german, to see if he would at least reply. For a sad reason he obviously didn't take the time to read my PM, because all he replied "What's the deal, if you want to help Storm with classic, talk to him".. At no point in my PM I was refering to that I want to help Storm tho...

I dunno, it just seems like Stefan doesn't care for the people that supported him and graal since the beginning ^_^;

Loriel 02-24-2006 05:46 PM

So what were you saying? Perhaps Stefan was suggesting that you help Storm instead of trolling.

Mark Sir Link 02-24-2006 11:30 PM

the help we offer is useless, has the server is already on a set course of doom from Massokre and Storm. We can help, but the help would be unaccepted and wasted. We need a higher up to tell them to bring back classic, not remake it into a piece of ****.

jacob_bald6225 02-25-2006 06:12 AM

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/969/classic9in.gif

Vintersorg 02-25-2006 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link
the help we offer is useless, has the server is already on a set course of doom from Massokre and Storm. We can help, but the help would be unaccepted and wasted. We need a higher up to tell them to bring back classic, not remake it into a piece of ****.

Lyndzey and Ibonic tried but failed due to Stefans ignorance :]

Mark Sir Link 02-26-2006 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225

I lol'ed

protagonist 02-26-2006 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel
WTF? No, it does not.

Maybe not, but it sounds fairly snide.

Antago 02-26-2006 05:54 PM

There are most likely many other achievements, but I did these all for free and I worked awesomely hard on all of this. I am so pleased with all I have done, and it just goes to show that one person can truly make a huge difference. I also reported many underground hacks (as I used to fancy them and participate in them) to Stefan and cheats and tricks which were used to tighten security on Graal and make the playing experience exponentially better. I spent a LOT of computer hours, though, but that wasn't so bad because I met a lot of wonderful people and it's impossible now to play Graal without seeing mark I made. It was awesome expressing my creativity so abundantly, and I was able to overcome depression, learn a lot about myself and others, and it helped keep me away from things like drug use, overeating, etc.

I agree with people that your best move to get what you want is to manifest what you want, not by talking and complaining so much, but by creating. And, consequently as you can see from what I have done, you could do absolute wonders for the Graal community and world by being such a huge influence in people's lives.

Achievements:

Graal Classic:
  • I spent my early days arguing with people, being insulted and even publically ridiculed when I submitted my first levels to graal.goth.net. They made a mockery of my levels and posted their opinion of it, which was just terrible. Lyndzey still remembers them, and I doubt it has nothing to do with the mockery the website gave me. But, publicity either positive or negative may go a long way because ultimately it's not what one person thinks but what the many, including yourself as your opinion is very important to you.
  • Long standing Wedding and Divorce chapel from early 1.2 near Graal bridge.
  • Many headsets, shields, and swords, including the notorious Power Ranger looking head, head104 (whose original version saw a better day)
  • Made various animated "plays", which were game cartoons/slideshows featuring many players and storylines, hosting them from a GServer on my computer.
  • House in Nearorner town
  • Renamed Onnett town to Nearorner town
  • Giant continent, "Destiny" on Graal classic
  • Giant continent, "Glowtica" which was actually never finished or officially released, but it did appear on the main map of Graal from like 1.2 to really late until people realized the big underwater blob of levels on the map was inaccessible and got tired of it, nonetheless I worked very hard on it.
  • Lots of bird NPCs including a bird with a fullheart that could be carried and dropped in other levels for a fun effect
  • Official longstanding lizardon sword quest from the gravity tower on Graal classic in Destiny
  • Gravity boots and the big quest
  • Opposite boots
  • Many other boots :-)
  • Graphics Administrator for Graal classic
  • I was once a Graal Policeman in the early days of GP in 1.2
  • A part of many guilds supplying lots of successful ideas and graphics
  • Many different websites, including a famous longstanding #1 ranking site on Graal's top50 (Mafukie's top50) called Graalsoft, as well as other websites including ChronicMan's Shrine, Antago's Shrine, Antago Gravity, and other possibly egotistical works but nonetheless there were humble moments worth a tear of joy or two or a lot more
  • I was once on LAT I think, and in fact if I recall correctly I was one of the first LATs for Graal among like 5 of us
  • Lots of ideas incorporated into Graal including the "profiles" idea which apparently the Graal Newfeatures TXT mentioned
  • Lots of emoticons such as the apple emoticon, the cat emoticon, and the telephone emoticon (there may be others/another)
  • Worked on a sky world called "Hyperflash" which featured rainbow bridges and lots of other cool things
  • Owned the first official Graal playerworld, which was accessible thorugh my house (this was before Destiny was placed on Graal classic main, it was actually originally first a playerworld). However, I was young, and boys being boys, I exploited the possibility to upload NPCs and using the "canbecarried" option, I managed to create the notorious globe NPC which wreaked much havoc as I carried it through the playerworld portal and onto Graal classic, and threw it and used it to kill people like PACHUKA did. I laugh now, but at the time it was rude and I do feel sorry for the players who I annoyed
  • First official Graal halloween event
  • First official Graal fourth of july fireworks event
  • Invented, and then worked to develop (with Kyle0654) first official Graal new race called "bomy-bopots", perhaps you have heard of them
  • I posed under different identities such as "ill panther" and if I recall correctly, there were 3 total "ill panther's tavern"s on Graal classic. One in Nearorner town, one by Graal castle, and one in Destiny. A lovely franchise indeed for me and my learning experience, good thing it served more than just beer. I made it so that I could retrieve the money players paid to the bartenders, and you would be surprised how much rupees I made from that franchise (a lot, so much and so quickly that I stopped caring, if my memory is correct).
  • First alternative official body (body2 or something with the cape) which was a collaborative effort between me and GokuX
  • Lots of tiles
  • Created the official icon for Graal which is actually still being used today (the half fung-si-yan and half ninja head thing)

I could go on and on

Graal2001:
  • Icons for Graal level editor and Graalshop (the fancy "save as", "open", etc. icons)
  • Came up with the idea for and pushed Stefan to create the NPC Server, which would host NPCs apart from the levels so that they would not be so limited, and there could be overworld NPCs/characters and animals which would not be reset when a level was updated (consequently Graal would suck moreso if I had not pushed this idea for so long and obliged Stefan to manifest it)
  • Moved bomy-bopots to Graal2001 after the project was started
  • Developed many/most concepts for Graal2001
  • Designed the time system concepts with Stefan and pushing for the idea of having two stars/suns which would make for different colored nights and years on the server
  • Made many more bomy-bopot graphics
  • Designed Mt. Antora
  • Made many graphics for Graal2001 including the Gralat, which was done using a design and idea from Stefan
  • Founded Antora's Appendage and Bogenera for Graal2001

Mark Sir Link 02-27-2006 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Malinko
You propose to upload the "old" Classic with all the atrributes, levels, etc. restored, which I'm not sure is possible, but if so, can't the people of Classic come up with some sort of compromise between all and the staff? Perhaps if a restore was possible, there could be another "Classic Development" world which will be private for staff to further continue with the NPC-Server conversion without interrupting Classic itself. I know how that was in the past, but it's better than waiting around with "nothing", correct? Perhaps a compromise can be made? I'll read the edits in the first post and pass it on to high staff if I can. I think if this could happen, then the NPC-Server conversion to a future Classic should be assembled with a well put together team to speed up the progress, whether is being globals or people who wish to help.

I've asked Storm several times, so the ball is now in your court. Any progress made at convincing them to do what you and I have suggested?

Andy0687 02-27-2006 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Antago
lots of stuff

Yeah, the graal you seem to keep describing yourself as revolutioning dosent exist anymore.

Maybe you have heard of a guy named Nemesis, and a 10 minute account deletion spree which netted quite a few people free gold time.

Its events like that, that stopped people who could be like you from emerging, because its no longer allowed.

Polo 02-27-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link
I've asked Storm several times, so the ball is now in your court. Any progress made at convincing them to do what you and I have suggested?

Asked me what?

Aknts 02-27-2006 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy0687
Yeah, the graal you seem to keep describing yourself as revolutioning dosent exist anymore.

Maybe you have heard of a guy named Nemesis, and a 10 minute account deletion spree which netted quite a few people free gold time.

Its events like that, that stopped people who could be like you from emerging, because its no longer allowed.


Wow, nice reply. :) Antago did alot for Graal though. It wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't for him.

The thing with Stefan though, when you message him on how you think you could improve something and it is a good idea he usually replies and tells you to do it. Then the next day rolls around and well he don't remember his conversation or the PM that is saved on the forum. One day he wants you to do this thing that could change Graal then the next he wants you to not talk to him. It is odd. =\


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