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haunter 08-29-2005 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
so y should u get rid of all trials rights?
First of all... Take a bloody English class or two.

Second of all, the trials have no rights on Graal, nor do you or I. Read the User Agreement.

Nothing is being taken from the trials... Things are being given to the people who pay. There's a difference.

Wind_Master 08-29-2005 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by haunter
I bet WoW sucks if you dont pay the $14 per month fee... Seeing as that means you can't even play and all... Lots of people still play.

Stefan COULD just change trial accounts so they can only try the game out for a week before their account is disabled until they upgrade (Like a WoW Trial card). But no, he's letting them play with a few restrictions. If they dont want those restrictions they'll have to pay, just like everybody else.

$44 a year is very cheap... Nothing stays free forever there are always costs that have to be addressed.
dude think about it....almost 50$ a year...theirs about 2,000 p2p members problly way more and he also gets money from ppl who have a server..that costs 100$ a year. Think about how much money Stefan is making.....y cant he just give trails their right back??

haunter 08-29-2005 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
dude think about it....almost 50$ a year...theirs about 2,000 p2p members problly way more and he also gets money from ppl who have a server..that costs 100$ a year. Think about how much money Stefan is making.....y cant he just give trails their right back??
You don't read very well... There are no rights.

Even if there were that many people upgrading each year (Which there isnt... 2000 is way too high) you have to take other things into account. Considering that it costs alot of money to keep the servers running, and he has to make a living, and pay his employees... He doesn't make that much money.

Here are some things to add to your todo list:

Take English Classes
Take Basic Economics Classes

Wind_Master 08-29-2005 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by haunter
You don't read very well... There are no rights.

Even if there were that many people upgrading each year (Which there isnt... 2000 is way too high) you have to take other things into account. Considering that it costs alot of money to keep the servers running, and he has to make a living, and pay his employees... He doesn't make that much money.

Here are some things to add to your todo list:

Take English Classes
Take Basic Economics Classes
but neway how about this....taking trials guild tags away.Who is that really affecting? Its affecting the VIP members who own the guilds....thats who....

haunter 08-29-2005 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
but neway how about this....taking trials guild tags away.Who is that really affecting? Its affecting the VIP members who own the guilds....thats who....
They can always find new members that have upgraded their account... The Trials are the ones losing out because they don't have any guild to back them up while playing.

If you can only fill your guild roster with Trial players, you suck at recruiting.

Wind_Master 08-29-2005 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by haunter
They can always find new members that have upgraded their account... The Trials are the ones losing out because they don't have any guild to back them up while playing.

If you can only fill your guild roster with Trial players, you suck at recruiting.
um ya ok....3 guilds in zone....theirs like 40 p2p who play zone...ur really gunna have a chance at recruiting them over the other guilds

haunter 08-29-2005 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
um ya ok....3 guilds in zone....theirs like 40 p2p who play zone...ur really gunna have a chance at recruiting them over the other guilds
Survival of the fittest.

Wind_Master 08-29-2005 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by haunter
Survival of the fittest.
ya im sure....is that y when hayashi was the best guild 4 awhile and then as soon as the guild tag rule was made they went staright down??? o no that really hurts trials...

SayianOozaru 08-29-2005 11:50 PM
ya :( only 3 people i think are left with an Hayashi tag....and i'm one :'(

haunter 08-29-2005 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
ya im sure....is that y when hayashi was the best guild 4 awhile and then as soon as the guild tag rule was made they went staright down??? o no that really hurts trials...
Yes, it does... Because then they can't be a part of the best guild... The leader of Hayashi is just going to have to work harder to convince the p2p players that their guild is the one to join.

SayianOozaru 08-30-2005 12:35 AM
uhhh, most of the players in Hayashi, were trial, and like i've said some people can't afford a p2p acc, or there parents don't want them buying it. And when Hayashi was big (b4 trials where reduced) who didn't wanna be in Hayashi?

haunter 08-30-2005 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru
uhhh, most of the players in Hayashi, were trial, and like i've said some people can't afford a p2p acc, or there parents don't want them buying it. And when Hayashi was big (b4 trials where reduced) who didn't wanna be in Hayashi?
Maybe you should find some memebers that can afford to pay then.

anubis_wing 08-30-2005 01:58 AM
I can afford and I am i've probably got the most experience faster than ne one else on zone! Not nescesarily a good thing (i.e I play ALOT!!!!) but point is I have gotten more xp than ne one ever has in 27 days

Wind_Master 08-30-2005 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by anubis_wing
I can afford and I am i've probably got the most experience faster than ne one else on zone! Not nescesarily a good thing (i.e I play ALOT!!!!) but point is I have gotten more xp than ne one ever has in 27 days
what does this have 2 do with nething??

and leader of Hayashi quit....leader of Hayashi was FireBoX

jkool666 08-30-2005 06:10 AM
Lol well I have a way to make a guild pimped out..... I'm the only one EVER on Zone who wears his Lost Souls, well Dozer somtimes, yet Lost Souls is still the best ranked zone guild... We got people from UnHolyNation to so if you make a guild make it multi servered then its easy. And don't let ANY trials in.


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