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busyrobot 01-23-2005 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime
Peaceful is peaceful- I see no rule against being in a Castle IN CHARACTER not harrasing people. Refusing to agnowledge someone's IC exsistance, however abrassive they may or may not be, is a vast breach of RP protocol. Exceptions are when the person does not role play, a la KJ. But as for Zurkiba, who was Roleplaying, who was within his right to be in the castle, who was in peaceful mode which was designed TO PREVENT BEING PKED.

Zurk wasn't IN CHARACTER in the castle, if he was roleplaying, he would have been surrounded by the many guards, and probably run through the chest.

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime
And more over, bug abuse IS bug abuse.

And should always be punished, no matter what. I hope everyone can agree to that. In the case of Zurk disturbing the RP environment of the castle out of character and refusing to leave, and using peaceful mode to harass people, I cannot blame people who find a way to kill the player dispite being in peaceful.

Now, this thread isn't about the maniacal wailings of Zurkiba, but about CP, use of 'mines' (bugs) and RP conduct of kingdom members.

GryffonDurime 01-23-2005 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by busyrobot


And should always be punished, no matter what. I hope everyone can agree to that.

Then I demand both you and Zoe submit your account names to Bjorn for a ban. Use of a bug to remove a King without Roleplay reasoning, and the fact that she DID kill Zurkiba through bug abuse.

If Zurkiba wasn't, as you claim, in character, then you had no right to interact with him- by your own admonission OOC people are just to be ignored. They don't exsist. Why, then, did Zoe make Zurkiba any different?

Discharge 01-23-2005 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime
Then I demand both you and Zoe submit your account names to Bjorn for a ban. Use of a bug to remove a King without Roleplay reasoning, and the fact that she DID kill Zurkiba through bug abuse.

If Zurkiba wasn't, as you claim, in character, then you had no right to interact with him- by your own admonission OOC people are just to be ignored. They don't exsist. Why, then, did Zoe make Zurkiba any different?

Gryffon lets role-play in Val.

::he moves his hand over his mouse::

::he uses his index finger to press down on the left mouse button::

::a clicking sounds is produced::

::he moves his hand back to the keyboard::

::his eyes begin to focus on the monitor::

::he move his hand back to the mouse::

::he clicks the left button using his index finger::

::the click leads him on a different thread::

::he hears the sound of his computer::

::he looks behind him to see his bed sheets are missing::

Anyways, I would like to know how that transition actually happened in detail.

Lance 01-23-2005 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime
Then I demand both you and Zoe submit your account names to Bjorn for a ban. Use of a bug to remove a King without Roleplay reasoning, and the fact that she DID kill Zurkiba through bug abuse.

If Zurkiba wasn't, as you claim, in character, then you had no right to interact with him- by your own admonission OOC people are just to be ignored. They don't exsist. Why, then, did Zoe make Zurkiba any different?

That will not happen - they've already explained that they feel bug abuse is justified against things that they don't approve of.

Zurkiba 01-23-2005 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by busyrobot
Zurk wasn't IN CHARACTER in the castle, if he was roleplaying, he would have been surrounded by the many guards, and probably run through the chest.

Right, I was in character.

And if you would understand, AIM CONVERSATIONS AND FORUM CONVERSATIONS ARE OOC. In all actuality a parade would've been thrown for me and I would've been celebrated as the returning Duke who has been travelling the globe for years.

You complain that if I RPed properly then I would not hold a grudge against the Zormites in my character. But wait, you're being a hypocrite again.


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Originally Posted by busyrobot
And should always be punished, no matter what. I hope everyone can agree to that. In the case of Zurk disturbing the RP environment of the castle out of character and refusing to leave, and using peaceful mode to harass people, I cannot blame people who find a way to kill the player dispite being in peaceful.

Removal of Tseng through GUI Bug
PKing me when I'm in peaceful mode Bug

That's TWO bugs from TWO leaders of a KINGDOM.

I was not disturbing an RP enviroment. I was SITTING in the shipyard. MY shipyard. Noone was even on the Dustari island. And I did leave, about four times. Later to return.

I did not harass anyone - Unless if you consider other people having Dustari.gmap in their location in their profile as harassment. In which you must get harassed a lot!

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Originally Posted by busyrobot
Now, this thread isn't about the maniacal wailings of Zurkiba, but about CP, use of 'mines' (bugs) and RP conduct of kingdom members.

Good, stop turning the threads into Anti-Zurkiba. I mentioned a valid point stating that Dustari is guilty of the same crimes. But it's always just easier to turn it against me.

busyrobot 01-23-2005 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba
...

Go blow smoke elsewhere else, you're not even trying to be plausable anymore.

MasterNuke 01-23-2005 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MadScience7
Until now, I have considered the dropping of golems or food the same as setting ship mines - anyone can do it, so there's no unfair advantage.

Hint: Slow spell.

Ziro_Vitrudestec 01-23-2005 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MadScience7
The Corsair spent two days at the reduced rank of Scallywag, and was forced to endure the ruthless torture of RP trainer Emily. He apologized to me and it's over. I would be happy to discuss it further with you in game.

I praise you for that.
I hear that Emily is good! ;)

Zurkiba 01-23-2005 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by busyrobot
Go blow smoke elsewhere else, you're not even trying to be plausable anymore.

You're always just so high and mighty with your words, then when we use your very own words to show faults in yourself. You dismiss it.

You dont believe what you speak, read upwards... others have mentioned the same things I have. But because I said it then it makes it null and void right? Well that's just not how it works.

fireedragn 01-23-2005 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by busyrobot
CP is only a group of pirates in a roleplaying sense. That does not mean that Alan should act like a pirate out of character in a forums. Given that the member this thread is about was by his own admission not roleplaying and second abusing bugs kills your whole pilfer, pillage, plunder argument.

I know that it doesn't mean that he should act like a pirate on the forums. But he made a decision AS a pirate, in the best interests of the pirates. (And by that, I mean not letting somebody else, especially the King of Dustari tell him how to run things.)

And if you read the quote, you'd see what my post was actually responding to.

Edit: Clarified my meaning.

GryffonDurime 01-23-2005 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fireedragn
I know that it doesn't mean that he should act like a pirate on the forums. But he made a decision AS a pirate, in the best interests of the pirates. (And by that, I mean not letting somebody else, especially the King of Dustari tell him how to run things.)

And if you read the quote, you'd see what my post was actually responding to.

Edit: Clarified my meaning.

Yes, far be it from people with even a shred of logic to realize that ticking off the giant country that controls the most powerful army in the known islands would be a BAD thing. If there's any country the Pirates SHOULD be afraid of, it's Dustari.

busyrobot 01-24-2005 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime
Yes, far be it from people with even a shred of logic to realize that ticking off the giant country that controls the most powerful army in the known islands would be a BAD thing. If there's any country the Pirates SHOULD be afraid of, it's Dustari.


Actually for RP reasons, I'd let things get very 'bad' between CP and Dustari before a land war would ever be considered. Even with CP having a more organized government than your usual pirate band, by treating them as a bunch of individual threats as piracy under maritime law, Pirates that do raid our waters will be pursued and those whom don't will not be on our legal radar.

I think that people don't find the full ground wars and idea of conquest that much fun, at least in GK's current form, and I want to encourage piracy without fear that it will result in any castles being burned down.

urmomsdumb2 01-25-2005 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Discharge
Listen here “scallywags,”

You have your head of the Navy who does not role-play at all. He thinks it’s for “dumbasses”

He also told me while on tag, that he has been reported several times because he does not role-play. Up to this point, pirates were role-playing pretty good. I was enjoying myself with all this role-playing interaction.

I came over in peace to speak about our agreement. Why? Well earlier the day we had the Governess came over and landed on Dustari. According to our agreement we can sail freely but cannot land on tag. Anways, so I go over to speak about these terms because it’s like hey! What about our deal?

This guy, supposedly your head honcho of the navy comes and uses mushrooms to get me stuck. He starts pounding on me with every magic trick in the book while I’m just stuck. Personally, using mushrooms for an attack because it freezes boats is not very “rpish.” Not to mention it could possibly be seen as a bug abuse but I’m not sure. Anyways, he goes off and insults me with various occ comments while on tag saying he does not care. You know, in all my years of role-playing, I don’t think I ever encountered a member of a role-playing kingdom that has totally disregarded role-playing. He just straight out said he does not give dang about role-playing. You need to remove this guy, his obviously not meant to be in a kingdom. This guy should be in Graal Classic chopping up bushes all day. I got so ticked, I went out-of-character and reprimanded him.

Here is a screen shot.


http://www.anarbol.com/removecorsair.jpg

Edit: On a side note, the mayor comes down and just listens to him talk out-of-character on tag but does not say a word. I just warp out off tag because this event turned into a clearly occ matter.


well according to me, u were below westford, which cureently happens to be the boundry from outsiders, therefore, going past that point, you were in a hostile area. And Arius is one of our finest pirates, So dont tell us to remove him jsut because of your ignorance of going past our boundry.
Im not sure if this rule was set out before or after this happened, so i apologize if im wrong


~~Captain Lunus Astrian~~

urmomsdumb2 01-25-2005 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nappa
It's amazing. The only person who thinks this, is the retard running the kingdom.

So now ur moving from arius to Alan huh? its pathetic you have to think of every little detail to try and ruin a kingdom jsut because you dotn like it. Calling someone far more respected then you'll ever be, is the most ignorant thing i have ever seen.




ok we can end this post, ive said what i wanted to say.

~~~Captain Lunus Astrian~~

Zurkiba 01-25-2005 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by urmomsdumb2
well according to me, u were below westford, which cureently happens to be the boundry from outsiders, therefore, going past that point, you were in a hostile area. And Arius is one of our finest pirates, So dont tell us to remove him jsut because of your ignorance of going past our boundry.
Im not sure if this rule was set out before or after this happened, so i apologize if im wrong


~~Captain Lunus Astrian~~

Well if you would read the post you would understand that the thread isn't about crossing a line. It's about the choice of a KINGDOM MEMBER to not ROLEPLAY.

I surely hope you dont talk in game like you do here. Then the Pirates have no hope of return.

(Sidenote: Astrian, cool surname from Astri)

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Originally Posted by urmomsdumb2
So now ur moving from arius to Alan huh? its pathetic you have to think of every little detail to try and ruin a kingdom jsut because you dotn like it. Calling someone far more respected then you'll ever be, is the most ignorant thing i have ever seen.




ok we can end this post, ive said what i wanted to say.

~~~Captain Lunus Astrian~~

Wow lets actually see who made the two different posts.
One says Discharge
The Other one says Nappa

Oh my dear lord, there must be some grand conspiracy amist as there are two different people posting on a thread with two different opinions. What is the world coming to?!?!?!?


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Originally Posted by urmomsdumb2
ok we can end this post, ive said what i wanted to say.

Right, because we know your proven statements and your clear superiority have made everyone hush hush about the discussion because you clearly 'owned' us in it. WRONG. Your statements didn't show us anything. If it did show us anything it showed us one of two things:
1) You cant read
OR...
2) You cant read


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