This is stupid. Do you people even know what bans are for? What possible purpose could be served by removing Loriel from the community?

Would you trust some other text to convince you otherwise?
And, what the hell would I do with stolen accounts?


That is not an issue of lack of self esteem, but one of ignorance.

Uh, the same thing other people who steal passwords do with the stolen accounts?
Let's not forget, we dont know you...even if we have talked to you on these forums or on Graal for several years, we still dont know you....just like noone really knew Nemesis. When you put that crap on these forums, you put all kinds of doubt in peoples minds, whether that was your intention or not (I would seriously change my password if I clicked on that link, which I will because I dont remember if I did or not now x.x).

You were 100% wrong, why dont you just suck it up, and admit that what you did was not the appropriate way to do things.
You did it on purpose to see how many members would fall for it because you thought it would be funny...now that is real professionalism there from a global member of this community :rolleyes:
I will tell you what purpose it would serve, it would tell the members of this community that we are all equal when it comes to the rules....that globals are not exempt from following the same rules that the rest of the community have to follow

... ? That makes so much sense for me.
Clicking of links cannot steal passwords.
You were `` 100% wrong '' repeatly before, and failed to realise that. What makes you think that you can now judge wrongness to that extent?
Eh? Perhaps because there is the slim possibility that your opinion, despite the passion you spread it with, is not the only choice.
You certainly are able to understand that just saying `` hey, [imgr]-tags can be abused, remove them '' would not have changed anything.
I have been trying to contact Robert to fix this, he apparently ignores me.

Well, if you say so.
I do not think that you are one to speak of professionalism, especially with such a professional emoticon. You still refuse to invest any thought beyond pure flaming into what happened, so your repeated attacks to not prove any point.

I wish that was true.
Not arguing any other point, I would like you to quote the exact rule I broke.

There is also no proof that that form "stole" passwords from users also if it did steal passwords it would only steal the forum password, its your fault if you choose not to change your forum account password to something diffrent than your Graal Account Password.

All that Loriel really could have done is make the dumb people that fell for this "prank" sound more intelligent by posting for them.

Moonie, you have to look at more than one side of the picture.
The globals now-a-days are too "ban hammer" happy.

There is about one global with a ban hammer these days.

Oh, now it is.

Yeah I guess Loriel proved a point, but I think it is unfair how had someone who was nonglobal done the same thing they probably would have been banned.

Exactly .

Loriel, next time, you should just PM me, it would save you, me and everyone from a lot of trouble.

Now I'd like everyone to calm down a bit. Don't answer too fast, and think before posting. Make intelligent posts, not flood, and stop saying "It's xxx fault" or things like that, it looks like a "Kindergarden" (I forgot the english word, so you'll have the german one... Stefan's influence, probably...)

Ok, let me get this straight then...it would be ok if someone else did the same thing, and it would be the members fault for falling for it? It doesnt make people dumb to click on a link in someone's sig, not everyone thinks that everyone else is out to hurt graal or it's members, I had my forums account password stolen already, one time because I clicked on a link that appeared to be a valid forum link...sound familiar? I am certainly not stupid, but I will never click on another link again, heck, I dont even know that I want to click on any link on the forums again, except that I have to, because it's my job to make sure links are appropriate =/

I see both sides, I really do....but the appropriate thing to do would have been to discuss this in private with Robert, not exploit it on the forums, no matter what the reason for doing it. Loriel, I said that you did what you did for fun because you actually told me that, not because it was my opinion....

Just because Robert didnt reply, doesn't mean he wasn't working on the problem

Goboom, that last part of your post really shocked me...as if to say it would be ok for Loriel to steal the forum account to make the members seem more intelligent...who are you to say they are not intelligent, and why do you make it seem as if this would be right?

I have been on Graal for many years, I think I have learned what is legal and what is illegal, I have seen what people get banned for, and what they have not gotten banned for, and I have also watched some globals abuse things because they know they can...tell me, Loriel...If someone had sent a link on GK or whatever place you work on, that was like the link that you had on here, what would you have done?
I am not trying to flame anyone, I am trying to make a point...the point being that a global should not get away with doing something illegal just because he thinks he has a legitament reason for doing so

You do not ever respond to my ICQ messages. What do you expect?

I do not think there is one.

Could have forum pmed it

Stop acting like immature kids would be the word.

Creche, perhaps? With an accent circonflexe?

Meh I gave my password to Loriel with that, but I didn't thought he'd use it to steal my password or anything. I changed it just in case, but I didn't thought Loriel would be able to do so. Besides, deeds speak louder then words.

kthxbai

The point is, Loriel may have done a good thing by doing what he did. But it is not fair that he gets away with it just because he is a global.