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LilbrojX 01-08-2002 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Sir_Gareth
But the starthouse was still in the level.
Lord Helmut was LAt admin on there at the time. Weird eh? how that juts APPEARS on his server



PS: Booozy shash

who cares? babylon owns you, you and bravoe, and wutever other server your with

homeless1 01-08-2002 12:53 PM

I dont wanna sound biest(sp?) just because i am GFX Admin on Babylon but here i go:

I really find it unfair for all of you who are outright saying Babylon sucks to judge so swiftly. We are a new server, FTP wasnt working at first, and Lord Helmut hasnt been on much untill recently for a while cause of something he did a long time back i guess.
Many servers, when they had first went up, were listed as "Under Construction" on the server list. Because we didnt go up like that doesnt mean we are fully finished or even close to it, its just because Stefan doesnt allow that anymore. I know there isnt all that much to do right now, and i keep saying that we need to finish the quest that was already half uploaded from before FTP got working, and we need more jobs and mini games opporational. For whatever reason, I was informed by Xaviar that LH has said our Kuro project is top priority. Im sorry but that just doesnt make sense Helmut...players need to be able to buy/win them and for that they need to be able to make money (i.e. jobs, winning events). Besides Kuros wont be used by everybody, so i think fixing known bugs, expanding the overworld, and uploading more quests jobs and games to be top priority; as that would benifit all.
I understand the similarities between those levels, but they arent the same, just the building is sorta similar. So Helmut maybe i guess should see about gettng that fixed, but i see no reason why a complaint on a few levels should result in dissing the server as a whole.
I myself have been with Babylon for quite some time now, and I've worked real hard, by putting in tons of hours doing graphix and more hours spent online trying to make Babylon a better place by answering questions, hosting 'some' events (lol), getting rid of trouble makers (especially people using Pie's speed trainer or whatever *sigh*), and helping as much as i can when possible.
Because of this i am offended by all those remarks about Babylons 'poor' quality when its hardly in a position to be judged fairly. I dont understand how people can be sooo shallow...Hell i've turned in many school assignments late and have been late to school alot too because of lack of sleep on those nights when i was trying to get a graphic done. I'VE WORKED HARD AND I'VE BEEN F**KING COMMITTED, BABYLON IS ALOT BETTER THAN 10 MINUTES WORTH OF WORK, PEOPLE WORK HARD ON SERVERS AND ITS SO UNFAIR TO SAY ALL THERE WORK DIDNT PAY OFF FOR **** JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR FIRST IMPRESSION OF A NEW SERVER IN A SHAKY STATE!
So yah if the level was stolen then replace it or get permission, but a few levels being used that arent original shouldnt be a factor to judge Babylon itself. And I would appreciate if you would seek permission before using any of my stuff, because i dont know if anybodys tried or not...I also dont appreciate it when people rename my pics so they dont start with 'zen' but instead 'b' or something, *cough*lordhelmut*cough*, I'd like to get credit for my work when at all possible.

Omg i went on too much.....sorry but please find the time to read the above as i took the time to write it, thanks.

-Zen
GFX Admin for Babylon (Earned not given!!!:mad: )

Boozy_Bravo 01-08-2002 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by LilbrojX


who cares? babylon owns you, you and bravoe, and wutever other server your with

LH made Babylon for Bravo. It was originally supposed to be a new bravo is what he told me, but changed it to remind bravo players of Bravo.

lordhelmut 01-08-2002 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by Boozy_Bravo

LH made Babylon for Bravo. It was originally supposed to be a new bravo is what he told me, but changed it to remind bravo players of Bravo.

It was, I made it after I couldnt play bravo anymore to replace bravo then later it just evolved.

Sym2001 01-10-2002 01:30 AM

Yakuna..
 
You wouldnt know a good level if it jumped out and bit you in the ass. :rolleyes:

LiquidIce00 01-10-2002 03:23 AM

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it's DW's level and u cant just take something from another PW just cuz u worked there and use it on ur own .. here is the level from Bravo .. this is from the Bravo before it was ANDOR .. the one that I had gened .. i even posted a screen shot of it before on the forums (of the map and u can c the start house)

LiquidIce00 01-10-2002 03:25 AM

Homeless..
im not saying the server is bad..its actually pretty cool. . but to go taking stuff from others is not a nice thing .. and if he didnt know it was Dw's and he thought its okay fine .. just take it down and make ur own .. if its going to be an ass to get something that was not made by u guys down and the author wants it down then that is bad and if the server is going to be that way it wont last long ill tell u that

lordhelmut 01-10-2002 03:46 AM

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Originally posted by LiquidIce00
Homeless..
im not saying the server is bad..its actually pretty cool. . but to go taking stuff from others is not a nice thing .. and if he didnt know it was Dw's and he thought its okay fine .. just take it down and make ur own .. if its going to be an ass to get something that was not made by u guys down and the author wants it down then that is bad and if the server is going to be that way it wont last long ill tell u that

I am going to change it. I remembered today what happened. The start house was where the shop is now and it was like a pre defined house so I decided to move it and change the look. I saw that house in a screenshot on the levels board so I decided to use that look (long time ago) and didnt know who made it. I already apologized for using it and im going to get it down as soon as possible but im busy as hell trying to fix stuff. I will get it down soon but it kinda pisses me off he had to go and make a thread about it :rolleyes:

LiquidIce00 01-10-2002 04:27 AM

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Originally posted by lordhelmut


I am going to change it. I remembered today what happened. The start house was where the shop is now and it was like a pre defined house so I decided to move it and change the look. I saw that house in a screenshot on the levels board so I decided to use that look (long time ago) and didnt know who made it. I already apologized for using it and im going to get it down as soon as possible but im busy as hell trying to fix stuff. I will get it down soon but it kinda pisses me off he had to go and make a thread about it :rolleyes:

thx .. i did ask ur staff and they kinda b*tched at me

Questa 01-10-2002 06:03 AM

My head is throbbing with all this stuff goin on. All I have to say is:
I had a dreamcast gif in my playerhouse on UN that got removed. You ever hear anything about that Liquid?

LiquidIce00 01-10-2002 06:57 AM

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Originally posted by Questa
My head is throbbing with all this stuff goin on. All I have to say is:
I had a dreamcast gif in my playerhouse on UN that got removed. You ever hear anything about that Liquid?

I removed a few of imgs of like psx2 , dreamcast and a n64 .. its illegal and copyrighted

Funkee 01-10-2002 11:00 AM

If babylon stole levels it should be shutdown immediately i recon.. just an oppinion.. but is there proof?

- Funkee :p

agretsguest 01-10-2002 04:06 PM

Re: Re: ....
 
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Originally posted by Sir_Gareth


Yha ok......it just looks SO DAMN simmalr.......hmm maybe ill coppy all graal 2001s levels add a flower here and there and say its mine and ask fo it to be put up as a server..

people would get bored with no weapons on the server :asleep:

Xaviar 01-10-2002 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by LiquidIce00


thx .. i did ask ur staff and they kinda b*tched at me

Yea, well, next time, talk to some of the staff that actually matters ;) We try to keep our b*tching to a minimum


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