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cbk1994 01-19-2010 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Old_Days (Post 1551102)
A little writing isnt going to prove anything. You guys havent even fullfilled any of Eras goals yet have you?

if you have, then why is it still ****?

Some people will always be cynics ^^.

cbk1994 01-19-2010 09:09 AM

Unfortunately, we've hit a few snags with development, and things have been moving along much slower than we've expected.

Since the iPhone server will be sharing the same overworld and tileset as new Era, and since the majority of the scripting work is already done on iPhone, there is no reason for us to continue waiting on Era iPhone when there are things to do on the dev server. Most of the work still needed on iPhone will be shared with the development server. Because of this, we are placing the iPhone project on hold until after the development server is released.

Even though the iPhone project is being delayed, our dev project has been helped considerably by the iPhone project. For example, we've rescripted the health system we were using, including some of the stat displays, to be much more efficient (and mostly serverside). We've also made changes to the gun system and other core systems which we will move over to the dev server.


To clarify: the iPhone project is now on hold until the development server is released, and we will continue working on the new Era project now.

We are still looking for graphic artists so that we can make some changes to the tileset and start with the overworld as soon as possible.

Clockwork 01-19-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1551223)
We are still looking for graphic artists so that we can make some changes to the tileset and start with the overworld as soon as possible.

So much for not talking to me at all after saying you'd take my help ._.

cbk1994 01-19-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 1551229)
So much for not talking to me at all after saying you'd take my help ._.

We've been trying to sort out things with our current tile artist, plus dealing with some other staff issues lately. I'll try to get back to you by tomorrow.

Frankie 01-19-2010 11:08 PM

I don't see why you can't start the over world without the tile changes. Unless you're considering starting a whole new tileset and not just editting it (which in my opinion is a complete waste of time.)

cbk1994 01-19-2010 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1551295)
I don't see why you can't start the over world without the tile changes. Unless you're considering starting a whole new tileset and not just editting it (which in my opinion is a complete waste of time.)

Right now we only need basics. Sage and other tile artists have said they want to change the layout of beaches, dirt, etc. Once we have the basic layout done, we can start the levels, but anything we do before then will just have to be redone.

And I agree, a whole new tileset would be pointless. We're trying to make improvements, additions, and reorganizations, but still keep the Era feel.

SKJF91 01-19-2010 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1551223)
To clarify: the iPhone project is now on hold until the development server is released, and we will continue working on the new Era project now.

If you weren't 15 years old you'd of never announced the project just because another server had made an iphone server. You would first start work on the server, have something to show, and make sure the project you're doing is very much do-able. Rather now you just gave everyone false hopes, completely unprofessional but I don't expect anything better.

Besides, you'll probably delete my post anyway for criticizing you.

cbk1994 01-20-2010 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SKJF91 (Post 1551310)
If you weren't 15 years old you'd of never announced the project just because another server had made an iphone server. You would first start work on the server, have something to show, and make sure the project you're doing is very much do-able. Rather now you just gave everyone false hopes, completely unprofessional but I don't expect anything better.

Besides, you'll probably delete my post anyway for criticizing you.

I'm going to point to your age reference, realize you must be new to the Graal, and call it quits there. I've already responded to the rest of the criticisms found in your post, whether you're satisfied with the responses or not.

Graal is run by a team of volunteers who pay to make the game so you can play it. You might want to remember that before you attack staff.

SKJF91 01-20-2010 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1551324)
I'm going to point to your age reference, realize you must be new to the Graal, and call it quits there. I've already responded to the rest of the criticisms found in your post, whether you're satisfied with the responses or not.

Graal is run by a team of volunteers who pay to make the game so you can play it. You might want to remember that before you attack staff.

I don't play the game to play it, I am just like you and prefer developing for my own amusement and to expand on how my coding is condensed, efficient, and organized. Just because you aren't being paid does not mean you have to act unprofessional.

cbk1994 01-20-2010 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SKJF91 (Post 1551328)
I don't play the game to play it, I am just like you and prefer developing for my own amusement and to expand on how my coding is condensed, efficient, and organized. Just because you aren't being paid does not mean you have to act unprofessional.

There are a lot of reasons that we've placed the iPhone server on hold. You can nitpick any mistakes we have made to the grave, but there is no real reason for further criticism of the project or those involved when we've already seen the error of our ways and have made appropriate adjustments.

If you have problems with me as a person, I would be happy to discuss those with you privately rather than on the public forums.

The reason we're turning our attention back to the Dev server is because we feel we can do more for Era there. I'm not entirely sure how meeting this with a round of boos and told-you-sos is going to do anything to help the project or Graal in general.

fowlplay4 01-20-2010 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SKJF91 (Post 1551328)
I don't play the game to play it, I am just like you and prefer developing for my own amusement and to expand on how my coding is condensed, efficient, and organized. Just because you aren't being paid does not mean you have to act unprofessional.

To be fair, if you're going to start **** you should of expected **** in return.

xnervNATx 01-20-2010 01:37 AM

should fix the current economy if you expect to make another fail X_X.

salesman 01-20-2010 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SKJF91 (Post 1551310)
If you weren't 15 years old you'd of never announced the project just because another server had made an iphone server. You would first start work on the server, have something to show, and make sure the project you're doing is very much do-able. Rather now you just gave everyone false hopes, completely unprofessional but I don't expect anything better.

Besides, you'll probably delete my post anyway for criticizing you.

The intent of this thread wasn't to announce an Era iPhone server, but more to let everyone know that we would be delaying the development on the main server. Besides, the project isn't cancelled, it is just put on hold. You act as if game developers haven't ever pushed back a deadline before :rolleyes:

Originally the iPhone project wasn't supposed to take very long, but obviously that changed. So instead of delaying the dev server even more, we're going to finish that first and then port everything over to the iphone server.

Things will probably move more smoothly this way anyways.

cbk1994 01-20-2010 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1551361)
should fix the current economy if you expect to make another fail X_X.

We've taken into account the current economy as we've been drafting up the way the economy will flow on the new Era. This isn't really related to iPhone though, since iPhone is not intended to have a trading economy.

Vman13x 01-20-2010 02:27 AM

Hmm why announce making an era iPhone anyways if you haven't
completed the dev server?
Probably been answered not sure, feel free to delete this post if it's been answered.


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