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cbk1994 05-10-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Imperialistic (Post 1694320)
I might be mistaking , but I thought Graal already tried the whole support center thing. I think it failed miserably .

It worked pretty well except they chose the wrong software, and it had a number of bugs that resulted in a list of usernames, passwords, and emails being released for its 4,000+ members.

Starfire2001 05-10-2012 10:44 PM

If the purpose of UN is simply to get people to buy gold, and a gelat shop isn't possible for whatever reason, then...
1) Removing observer mode
2) Allowing players to play non team events (which is about half of them)
3) Limiting their full hearts to 10 out of 13 and shield power to 2 so they move slow and repeatedly get destroyed

plus the current trial restrictions on hats, sparring, and currency, would probably be more likely to get players frustrated enough buy gold. Got to at least give them a taste of what they are missing out on. Not allowing them to do anything at all interesting + making them unable to move or do anything every 15 minutes or so only makes people quit, and if they are interested in classic style graal only, quit PC Graal entirely as UN is atm the only non dev option for that.

fowlplay4 05-10-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1694319)
How about a support center?

Force one on Stefan/unix already.

ffcmike 05-10-2012 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1694325)
It worked pretty well except they chose the wrong software, and it had a number of bugs that resulted in a list of usernames, passwords, and emails being released for its 4,000+ members.

Now you mentioned that it would be good if there was a way to find out what our passwords were in order to prevent the potential to be phished.

Loakey_P2P 05-10-2012 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Starfire2001 (Post 1694326)
If the purpose of UN is simply to get people to buy gold, and a gelat shop isn't possible for whatever reason, then...
1) Removing observer mode
2) Allowing players to play non team events (which is about half of them)
3) Limiting their full hearts to 10 out of 13 and shield power to 2 so they move slow and repeatedly get destroyed

plus the current trial restrictions on hats, sparring, and currency, would probably be more likely to get players frustrated enough buy gold. Got to at least give them a taste of what they are missing out on. Not allowing them to do anything at all interesting + making them unable to move or do anything every 15 minutes or so only makes people quit, and if they are interested in classic style graal only, quit PC Graal entirely as UN is atm the only non dev option for that.

I'm kinda curious about the stats concerning how many people have payed for graal since it was implemented . doesn't seem like the player count has improved at all which leads me to believe this is as successful as the support center .

cbk1994 05-10-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1694328)
Now you mentioned that it would be good if there was a way to find out what our passwords were in order to prevent the potential to be phished.

They emailed everybody on the list to let them know (2012/07/09). PM me your email address(es) if you want to know if you're on the list.

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1694327)
Force one on Stefan/unix already.

Tig actually spent a considerable amount of time doing research and testing various options to find one that would suit Graal's needs, but he never received a response from Stefan or unixmad.

Devil_Lord2 05-11-2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1694277)
Problem with suggesting a professional be hired is that it's just as unlikely as observer mode simply being removed.

I didn't actually think it would be done, only stating what he said can't be done can be done by something that won't be done. That is what I done. :[

skillmaster19 01-18-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1678965)
I'm sorry but the observer mode cannot be removed yet. Unholy Nation is a special case because it's not based on leveling or so, so that limitations are not necessary making as much sense as on a server like Zodiac or Kingdoms.
Our goal is to make Graal more free-to-play, but it's not that easy since the servers are mainly made and managed by player staff and the money is made in selling items to player, so things like the item system and economy need to be more secured. Hopefully we can do more about this in 2012.

So, Stefan, about that.

ffcmike 01-18-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1678965)
I'm sorry but the observer mode cannot be removed yet. Unholy Nation is a special case because it's not based on leveling or so, so that limitations are not necessary making as much sense as on a server like Zodiac or Kingdoms.
Our goal is to make Graal more free-to-play, but it's not that easy since the servers are mainly made and managed by player staff and the money is made in selling items to player, so things like the item system and economy need to be more secured. Hopefully we can do more about this in 2012.

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Originally Posted by skillmaster19 (Post 1712341)
So, Stefan, about that.

Everything said in the original quote has since been contradicted.

dbug 01-19-2013 02:43 PM

Has UN tried making adjustments to there proposal for the removal of observer mode since this thread was created? Just curious.

ffcmike 01-19-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dbug (Post 1712351)
Has UN tried making adjustments to there proposal for the removal of observer mode since this thread was created? Just curious.

It wouldn't have made any difference.

Crono 01-19-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dbug (Post 1712351)
Has UN tried making adjustments to there proposal for the removal of observer mode since this thread was created? Just curious.

All they gotta do is add instance'd houses, gralat hats, and they're pretty much like iClassic. lel

dbug 01-19-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1712358)
All they gotta do is add instance'd houses, gralat hats, and they're pretty much like iClassic. lel

Instance'd houses? I know Stefan said that since its not about leveling and all that that it was special... but why can't it be limited to hearts (quests) and stuff? like 4 or 5 hearts.. i can't imagine it would be hard to have something like that done.

Crono 01-19-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dbug (Post 1712359)
Instance'd houses? I know Stefan said that since its not about leveling and all that that it was special... but why can't it be limited to hearts (quests) and stuff? like 4 or 5 hearts.. i can't imagine it would be hard to have something like that done.

you mean pay to acquire hp? no.

dbug 01-19-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1712360)
you mean pay to acquire hp? no.

Well I ment as in like a 1 time upgrade.. sorta a lifetime for that server subscription. since it's already "free" to play like era and zodiac.. but i see your point.. hmm

theres gotta be something equal UN could offer tho. besides selling items. honestly maybe sell hat's? since thats pretty big over there.


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