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05-13-2001 02:51 PM

The shading is awsome. Create some holding above head ones too i guess for throwing
hmm

Zulithe 05-13-2001 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
The shading is awsome. Create some holding above head ones too i guess for throwing
hmm

Thanks a lot THT, coming from you that really means something.

Also I was thinking... with the new lighting effects in G2K1 I wonder if it would be possible to make the Zulite's eyes glow when in dark rooms? They are very 'earthy' and probably have dark-vision so it would make sense (plus look cool) Of course they wouldn't glow while rolling but while walking...

Zulithe 05-13-2001 04:13 PM

NPC SCRIPTER whoever is helping... FXChip? Tyhm? Anyway... listen

About the crouching. If you see the graphic I posted a few posts back (btw I will upload new ones to replace it as I progress so just check back to that post to see updated versions)... you'll notice it goes from standing, to mid-crouching, then to full-crouch. I kinda felt it wouldn't look right, like there aren't enough frames in that step. So what if I did something like this...


I just make the body (column 3 row 4 only picture it without legs) and then I make the legs seperate graphics. Then we could script a gani that would show it going from Stand -->mid-crouch #1 -->mid-crouch #2 --> full crouch the gani could move the legs to make them appear to be folding inside. It would make it look smoother. Anyway, I just want to know what you think before I rearange my graphics.

Or let me know if you have an idea that would work better

**EDIT**
Also about throwing, grabbing, attacking, etc, this is going to add up to become a very large template... maybe I should make it more like a human body template where many of the body parts are seperate... this might take longer than I expected.

Fai 05-13-2001 08:25 PM

I don't think Zulites should use the bomy health meter and rocks instead of bombs. They should have something different.

Zulithe 05-13-2001 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by Fai
I don't think Zulites should use the bomy health meter and rocks instead of bombs. They should have something different.
I agree with the health meter thing and hopefully we will change it to a new kind of meter.

Zulites do eat rocks and maybe we will remove the rock thing that goes next to the health meter and put something else there, or think up something very different and cool. But since nobody is giving ideas... I can't think this all on my own! :p

Zulithe 05-14-2001 10:57 PM

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The template still isn't finished, mostly because I have been working on a way to get the zulite to fold so that it looks cool. Here is a gani (w/ template included)

Please evaluate the gani and tell me what you think!

toad1413 05-15-2001 07:44 PM

loooooooooong thread
 
Hi. I downloaded all the zips, etc, and they are pretty cool.

I'm pretty crap at this, so I'll make it short.:D
anyway, I read all the posts and I'm willing to help in any way I can.


Zulithe, I'm not saying your Zulite images are bad, 'cause they're not, but I kinda like TrueHeaT's ones a bit more. Although you could use both of 'em if you wanted... give players a bit of choice, that kinda thing.

If you want me to do anything just make sure it isn't ganis. I'm really crap at them. I can't even make the body in the same place on the different directions!

I have a couple of other things to say, but I've forgotten them, so I'll say it later.

Bye!:D

Fai 05-15-2001 08:13 PM

I don't like the idea of them just being able to walk on hands. Hands woul dhave to come from the sides, and if they came from the bottom they would be considered feet. They should be able to be just rock creatures with certain things like attacking and rolling and whatever. It would make it easier for people to come up with Zulite ideas.

Zulithe 05-15-2001 08:16 PM

Updates and replies to comments
 
Quote:

Originally posted by toad1413
Hi. I downloaded all the zips, etc, and they are pretty cool.

I'm pretty crap at this, so I'll make it short.:D
anyway, I read all the posts and I'm willing to help in any way I can.


Zulithe, I'm not saying your Zulite images are bad, 'cause they're not, but I kinda like TrueHeaT's ones a bit more. Although you could use both of 'em if you wanted... give players a bit of choice, that kinda thing.

If you want me to do anything just make sure it isn't ganis. I'm really crap at them. I can't even make the body in the same place on the different directions!

I have a couple of other things to say, but I've forgotten them, so I'll say it later.

Bye!:D

First of all, the latest Zulite has been uploaded. All of the walking graphics are finally done. There are a few legs on there that I need to delete so don't pay any attention to them :D
http://home.kc.rr.com/zulithe/zphere0.png

Secondly thank you toad for your opinions. You made your first post ever in this thread, yay!

I understand that some people like THTs better, everyone has different tastes. There are several reasons why I started my own...

1) THT didn't ever finish his
2) I didn't feel that I could complete it because I can't emulate his style close enough
3) I didn't care for his design very much

If someone wants to complete his, then go ahead. We are gonna need many many different Zulite bodies, so the more the marrier. If you don't like my design as much, that is cool. But I hope you don't think it sucks because I have worked very hard on it.

If you want to help, here is what I need:

I need ideas for a new health system, different than both bomies AND humans. I need something original but not too complicated, it is best to keep things relatively simple.

And like I mentioned we need MANY MANY more templates. I know that people can't really get started on making any until the first one is done though, so I'm working as fast as I can.

Thanks, see ya

Fai 05-15-2001 08:19 PM

Your version looks Graalier.

Added:
Except, I think it's a little too dark.

Zulithe 05-15-2001 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by Fai
Your version looks Graalier.

Added:
Except, I think it's a little too dark.

Yeah I know it is a little on the dark side, but it's okay. I mean, rocks come in any combination of colors you could possibly imagine. The zulite I made (which by the way is called zphere, it's a play on the word 'sphere') just happens to be that way, but that doesn't mean all zulites will be dark.

Fai 05-15-2001 08:47 PM

Well Graal is a cartoony game, with bright festive colors and stuff.
You should use the light gray on there for the whole thing, then just shade some areas.

Zulithe 05-15-2001 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by Fai
Well Graal is a cartoony game, with bright festive colors and stuff.
You should use the light gray on there for the whole thing, then just shade some areas.

If you dislike the coloring so much you are welcome to do a recolor :)

Fai 05-15-2001 08:53 PM

No i don't like recolorings :(

Pago 05-16-2001 04:28 AM

Idea for health system:

I've already suggested this in another thread, but I've added on to the original idea. Anyway, the zulites' health system could consist of a meter, like the bomys. But unlike the bomys' meter, the zulite meter would be based on the hit's effectiveness, instead of the "damage factor" of each hit. Here's how it would work:

1) How it rises/ falls Basically, the meter would indicate how "energetic" the zulite gets. The meter would start off at 50%, and if the Zulite is gathering momentum by performing activities such as fighting, rolling, or walking, the meter would increase. If a player is attacking the zulite, the meter decreases.

Oh yeah, I also think the meter could increase when the Zulite is idle, just much more slowly.

2) How it would affect the Zulite The lower the bar gets, the weaker the Zulite gets. If the Zulite becomes weak, it's movement falters, and every blow it takes would be greatly magnified. For example, if I decide to hite a Zulite at 20% with my sword, the Zulite's health would now be at 10%. However, if I hit a Zulite at 100% with my sword, its health would only drop to 95%.

Also, if a Zulite's health is low(0 to 30%), it's hits would have little, if any, affect on other players/npcs.

3) If the meter reaches 0, the Zulite's defenses simply cannot withstand the pain and torture of its attackers, so it collapses in a rocky heap :eek:

I think this system would be fair, since it would not only justify the more defensive fighting style of the race, but it would also give it an obvious weakness.

Tyhm 05-16-2001 06:29 AM

Maybe Stones instead of a meter? Like with the fullhearts, you get black stones and green stones (in the skin, as default), black stones are full, green are half...

That wouldn't be too hard.

Fai 05-16-2001 06:32 AM

That reminds me. BOMIES SHOULD SHOW HOW MUCH LIFE THEY HAVE LEFT WHEN YOU HIT THEM

toad1413 05-16-2001 05:41 PM

Health system
 
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(my other post was actually my first one on this forum Zulithe:D )

I have an idea for the Zulite health system:

Instead of having a straight health bar like the bomys, we could have a health bar that sort of looks loke a rock.

I made a first image, update it if you want.
The lower the Zulites health, the darker the bar. I know it doesn't look much like a rock, but how good can you get using an icon program? (I used microangelo - It can create small gifs in 256 colors, but it's still pretty good for graal.:D )
It's 64 x 32 pixels so it's not that big.

And yes, I know, that wasn't a very good post before.

cya!

P.S I just uploaded my new sig!! Check it out :cool:

Zulithe 05-16-2001 11:51 PM

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Phew this is turning out to be the most difficult part.

Okay here is my idea...

first examine the file I have attached. Notice it has a bar and four 'balls' this is just a prototype so please read on..

okay the bar is for life. I think the bar life system is the best system until someone can think of something better.

BUT here is the deal with those balls. Thos balls are rocks, they represent something interesting.

When all four are full, you can roll at full speed, when they are all empty, you can't roll at all. (or you roll very very slowly, haven't decided) basically, the more rocks on that meter that are full, the faster you can roll. These rocks represent your energy. It goes up when you eat rocks. It goes down slowly over time (kinda like how AP goes up, only the opposite) and to refill it you are forced to eat rocks.

What does everyone think of this? Good bad... any way you think I could make it better?

Fai 05-17-2001 12:52 AM

That is a super idea except....


Rolling? It's getting a little goronishly.

Zulithe 05-17-2001 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by Fai
That is a super idea except....


Rolling? It's getting a little goronishly.

You must not be paying very good attention. The Zulite was always intented to roll.

My VERY FIRST POST ON THIS FORUM was about the zulite. It is my lifes work. hehehehehehe

I must complete it! Oh yes, I must!

I have at least two more good race ideas that I'm gonna work on once this one is finished. noone seems interested in helping me though. Everyone just sits back on thier lazy butts and posts useless threads on the general forum about underwear and stuff

Fai 05-17-2001 02:35 AM

i have a super race idea. i don't think you could do it with the current way ganis are though.

I know it's been rolling since beginning but Gorons (ROCK PEOPLE) roll around, and in MM, you rolled and stuff too.

Nai 05-17-2001 04:27 AM

FAI! UPLOAD THAT SNIPER RIFLE SHOOTING THE n00Bie THING! MY FRIEND WANTS TO SEE IT!

05-17-2001 06:03 AM

Zulithe, you could help me out on the evolved bomy idea's, they are coming along great, i might have actually thought of somthing good for everyone !!:D

Fai 05-17-2001 06:19 AM

http://members.aol.com/failure2do/shoot.gif haaa heere

Nai 05-17-2001 06:30 AM

Could you post the Kung Fu one also?

Fai 05-17-2001 06:33 AM

http://members.aol.com/failure2do/kick.gif
here i will delete both posts in like 2 mins

toad1413 05-17-2001 06:48 AM

I like the idea of eating rocks to roll faster.
Zulithe, do you mind if I fiddle around with your health bar?

Sorry about my sig, I'll fix it later

everandom 05-17-2001 08:39 AM

kool
 
when will this this be on????

Komieko 05-17-2001 12:14 PM

I honestly think we have another "bomy" race here!(By bomy I mean original,good,variety, and not the same stuff like fire breathing,super strength,blah blah blah)I know I'll be making my own Zulite once the template is finished =)

Zulithe 05-17-2001 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by toad1413
I like the idea of eating rocks to roll faster.
Zulithe, do you mind if I fiddle around with your health bar?

Sorry about my sig, I'll fix it later

Sure be my guest

And it will be online hopefully soon after the first template is done but I really have no idea.

toad1413 05-17-2001 03:22 PM

Zulithes meter
 
I had an idea for your meter Zulithe.

for the rocks that you regain health from, why not have the rocks look like graal rocks?

In the zip there is rock_full.gif and blackrock_full.gif, which are the rocks when they are full and there is rock_gone.gif and blackrock_gone.gif, they are the same but to make it easier to use I made both.

I just fixed my sig, it was trying to find the file on my computer, now it's trying to find the file on my homepage, on my school's web page. http://www.maroondahsc.vic.edu.au/7nmcguir

plz give me your comments on my sig and the rocks.:p :D :) :cool: :p :D :) :cool:

toad1413 05-17-2001 03:25 PM

sorry
 
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sorry, the zip didn't work

Zulithe 05-17-2001 04:23 PM

Yeah those balls I planned on replacing them with a rock or something of that sort. Thanks for the rock graphics I'll probably end up using at least one of those.

Good work on the sig too, keep it up!

Lomgren 05-18-2001 01:25 AM

Ah, it is nice to see work on the Zulites starting up in earnest again. I unfortunately have become busy with other things, which is why I haven't been able to help much. Keep up the good work! :D

Aidoggy 05-19-2001 03:18 AM

yeah after all this you cant stop making it hehe ;)

General 05-19-2001 07:36 AM

No thanks to you i have already made my Bomy Script and i have mae scripts for many other races too, of course since all you ppls are so jerky and crap, i refuse to share them with u

Zulithe 05-19-2001 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by General
No thanks to you i have already made my Bomy Script and i have mae scripts for many other races too, of course since all you ppls are so jerky and crap, i refuse to share them with u
Not all of us are jerks :(

If you want to help us create some new races, please do! We are very eager for new talent to help us with any race, or start your own and we'll help you as well :)

General 05-19-2001 01:11 PM

Your one of the few left in this world...

toad1413 05-19-2001 03:05 PM

yeah
 
I just joined the crew and I'm helping!

So not everyone here does nothing


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