touya got like 120 kills with it i think...and that only took him like 2 hr

I still think ap pirces need to be slightly reduced in damage, pistols shouldn't do more damage than a sub-machine gun.... pistols should be for after you run outta ammo.

Touya must be smoking some strong sh*t lol

rofl!!!.....i dont know but when he did that...that was when he was like the best

ako ur the only one who wants apps to be reduced its fine the way it is, i think dh18's should be reduced more than apps.

i think apps r just fine but i do agree with u and think gravitron should do a lil more dmg

I'm with mastermind they do like 15 dmg a bullet unlimited ammo NYAH

dh18 r fine.....their class is so slow that they r easily delt with

the only thing that dh18 is cheap 4 is when speed hackers use them....than u got a problem x_x x_x x_x

true..... i just wanted to shut ako up lol. but uhh i think irplusar needs to be changed....it strafes to well..... it needs to be harder to hit ppl with...like bluerifle. but still same speed and damage x.x

lol...personally i think strafing should b taken away altogether

x.x strafing shouldn't be taken away.. it should just be slower. like when sum1 strafes they go like 1 class slower's speed, eg:commando strafes at light infantry speed,heavy infantry at poisoned speed

how about strafeing takes away energy (10 every 5 seconds) and if u strafe for 20 seconds u get autamatically frozen for 2 seconds

maybe more like 1 secnd bcuz thats long enuff x.x 2 would be verrrrry bad lol

2 isnt that long...1 second might b 2 short and cause more lag bcause of the quickness of the freezing time....i think mayb it should b 1.50 seconds at the least

never thot about lag. thats a good point tho. maybe like not able to shoot for 1 or 2 seconds. not miving would suck so bad lol

No strafing is only meant to be used for rifles or on exceptions the flamethrower. Have you ever tried to kill someone with an lrpulsar without strafing? I think strafing should be taken away when using pistols.

no....strafing is only cheap with rifels so therefor strafing should b taken away....irpulsar is so cheap when strafing....damn realddc is good when strafing with that thing....does that tell u sumthing??? he sux man strafing needs 2 go

strafing with pistols should be taken away and like so sumting about the irpulsar, but the bluerifle, SMG is made for strafing. taking it away would devalue its whole point of existence. then it turns to drugs and alcohol to give life a meaning and then it goes to the AAA and uses more funds of the AAA which is sent from the government in turn bush will raise taxes, which sum ppl will not be abole to afford and without money the cant buy food and they would die. Some would resrto to cannibalism eating other ppl. (the ticher ones) when all the ricxher ppl run out and die there will be no more ppl and without ppl this world with surely end. so in turn no strafing=The end of the Human race and the destruction of planet earth.Do you really want that on your concious? :spam::spam::spam::spam::spam::spam::spam:

ok back on topic, who wants these damned handguns deleated on seriously edited?!

deleated but i wont get my was so seriosly edited ^_^

Lol try killing someone with an smg without strafing or a kv24 or an enhanced pulsar or another rifle which I cannot think of at this moment in time.

yeh it dont work well smg dus cause i strafed once with it and killed 5ppl since then i get behind the person and shoot so they have 2 turn then shoot they have no chance except for (THE ALMIGHTY JIN)



I ahte him so much

Strafing isn't lame. Dueled no-freezetime, four round burst, shotgun spread handguns are lame. Good thing there's nothing like that in Zone.

Anyway, Jin... I could kill you sitting on a keyboard with appirces.

All I'm reading here is that Jin thinks strafing is cheap... maybe because it can beat his precious apps? No, Strafing is FINE. Learn to deal with it. And last time I checked, this thread was about Balancing Ap pirces, not discussing how strafing is cheap. Make your own thread about strafing, but stop bringing this one off topic.

Stafing is the best u fooL! DIE PLZ!

Handguns are lame if u gonna an anything make it them they are impossible to dodge and are ridiculasly too powerful

u could kill me???? LMAO!!! dont waste my time.....ur obviusly a newb....dude im like tied 4 best...ur tied 4 suckyness...if u wanan try ill gladly own u

EARTH TO EVERYONE, THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT STRAFING OR HANDGUNS.
Keep this on topic and discuss how apps should be balanced >.<
Let's get this straight: Pistols should be secondary weapons, not so powerful that it can defeat a sub-machine gun.

Apps r Fine strafing is fine, now stop talking about them and talk about how lame handguns are, before i go on another rant!

o lol....all that should b changed is handguns

Your loosing your touch jin your absense is taking a toal against your fame :P

Btw im for editing or deleting handguns they are so god dam LAME!!! ask seafire its his favourite wep

Lol, you obviously typed that 2x as fast as you normally do. I can barely understand a word of it <:[

Here's a little help, someonesomewhere. :]

The AP Pirces should be balanced on the basis that it is not bought nor is it hard to use with the provided class.

My suggestions:

Make the AP Pirces a buyable item.
Give the AP Pirces to a slower class.

I do enjoy a little bit of help every now and then :D
If you make it buyable, then Touya, Muroku, Isicle, and a host of other people will be after your head xD
And if given to other classes, what pistol would commando be given instead?

Dont give it a slower class and dont make it buyable apps r just fine they way they are. You probably just get owned by them alot. handguns r wut needs to be changed so lets focuz on those 4 right now. >.>

You can't be owned by appirces. As one of the first to ever use them I say this.

And YES, I WAS one of the first to use them. Here's the order:

Stefan > Gambet > Antonio B. > Hachi (me)

That's when everyone picked them up and started laming with them.

if u dont think it's possible to get pwned by apps go piss off jin then see what happens, lol

I don't care who's using them. Apps lame, not own.

Way to prove this:
Irl - Pistol<Sub-machine gun
Zone - Appirces>SMG
Zone - Aprippers<SMG
See the difference?
A PISTOL should not be more effective at killing people. However, make a pistol that shoots 2 bullets at once and spreads them out and Voila! You have an SMG-killing machine.
Appirces really have no place in Zone, just a pistol on Steroids. (Steroids are illegal in Zone, btw)

MY EYES! WHAT DID YOU DO TO THEM?
*Gouges out eyes with a fork*
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHh

NYAH that's grosss *BARF* show a lady with a lil more class like a swim suit model not a girl on steroids >_<