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Tyhm 10-19-2002 12:58 AM

A good point...

I dunno. Maybe it's time we opened hirings again, though I'm hardly in a position to orchestrate it.

Com013 10-19-2002 02:28 AM

And Lomgren was inactive the last six months or so, so I doubt he'll be able to do a hiring now. And I'm neither a LAT (Asst.) Chief, nor do I have the time for it now. Could we make an "emergency" hiring maybe? Just two LATs or so without a vote?

Tyhm 10-19-2002 06:06 AM

I frown on doing so...but none of the LATs bother showing up either...*shrugs* If it becomes necessary to the conversion project.

Kaimetsu 10-19-2002 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Com013

Just guess what my converter will be doing?
The timeouts are the hugest problem for autoconverting.

Woah there. If you're converting timeouts then there's a good chance that you're doing something wrong. Timeouts are almost never used online.

CheeToS2 10-19-2002 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Timeouts are almost never used online.
:confused:

R0bin 10-19-2002 07:10 PM

i concur with kai.

get loads of people to help with the rescripting tyhm, i stand by "Quantity over Quality"

all they will be doing to most scripts is //#CLIENTSIDE

i can train my hampster to do that x.x.

Com013 10-19-2002 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Timeouts are almost never used online.
Have you ever played on Classic? There are tons of scripted baddies and other NPCs which are using timeouts.
And I've got to convert all of them manually. :(

Kaimetsu 10-19-2002 08:57 PM

Meh, I meant serverside. There are very few occasions where you'd need to have serverside timeouts. A baddy, okay, but those all use pretty much the same script and can be rescripted manually. All the shiny light shows etc won't use serverside timeouts.

Com013 10-19-2002 09:05 PM

You can't guess how many NPCs there are which are doing nothing else than walking aimless around in a room... :(

Jeff 10-19-2002 09:47 PM

A lot of things can use clientside timeouts, after the //#CLIENTSIDE, which can be under .1

For example lights, which have to be clientside anyway.

CheeToS2 10-19-2002 10:23 PM

this thread topic went out the window :D

osrs 10-19-2002 11:09 PM

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check it.
Old bodys aren't working for me.

R0bin 10-20-2002 12:00 AM

try doing setani idle,;

Kaimetsu 10-20-2002 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Com013
You can't guess how many NPCs there are which are doing nothing else than walking aimless around in a room... :(
It would be okay if they all used the move command.

R0bin 10-20-2002 07:31 AM

but classic is old and they didnt have the move command back then nope ser-y-bob

Loriel 10-20-2002 08:20 AM

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Obviously there are still problems with the new exe :\
Raiden sent me this just now.

Tyhm 10-20-2002 08:35 AM

Fortunately, most walking scripts can be recognized as one of two or three versions...then you just replace all the standard code with a new standard code...

Kaimetsu 10-20-2002 08:59 AM

At least this will all be a lot easier if you do upgrade to an NPC Server. No need for batchers if you use class files - you can just update the class and everything is fixed at once :)

osrs 10-20-2002 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by R0bin
try doing setani idle,;
i did..dont work :\

osrs 10-20-2002 11:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel
Obviously there are still problems with the new exe :\
Raiden sent me this just now.

It's happening with me.

Com013 10-20-2002 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
At least this will all be a lot easier if you do upgrade to an NPC Server. No need for batchers if you use class files - you can just update the class and everything is fixed at once :)
Yes. I've already got lots of ideas for classes. Can't wait to get access.

R0bin 10-20-2002 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by osrs


i did..dont work :\

replaceani idle,idle;

Com013 10-20-2002 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by R0bin


replaceani idle,idle;

Or just don't start Graal by clicking on Tutorial, but by double clicking on another level.

Tyhm 10-21-2002 04:39 AM

We'll still need a batcher to replace
if(playerenters||wasthrown){...
with
this.mode=3;
join walk;
and so forth. Just we'd only need it once.

Kaimetsu 10-21-2002 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tyhm
We'll still need a batcher to replace
if(playerenters||wasthrown){...
with
this.mode=3;
join walk;
and so forth. Just we'd only need it once.

Yeah, I'm talking about after everything has been upgraded. It makes bug fixes much easier.

Com013 10-22-2002 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tyhm
We'll still need a batcher to replace
if(playerenters||wasthrown){...
with
this.mode=3;
join walk;
and so forth. Just we'd only need it once.

Wait...you want me to write a program to recognise what a script is doing? Next to impossible...we have to convert this stuff manually.

Jeff 10-22-2002 04:01 AM

I'd say manual conversion is practically the only way. A program to evaluate types of scripts would actually take longer, because it'd have to be a damn good program. Would probably have big bugs and make mistakes that have to be handfixed in the end anyway.

Tyhm 10-22-2002 05:20 AM

Not necessarily.

If the script starts with that //Character Script by Stefan
Take the if(created) part and put that in the new NPC
take the this.mode==#; line and put that in the new NPC
Join the new NPC to the new Default Character script
and you're done.

Jeff 10-22-2002 08:25 AM

It'd work if it had enough signs of such activity. Test it on some sample levels I guess, should work.

prozac424242 10-23-2002 07:27 AM

Ganis on G2k2 bodies
 
If yuo carry a bomb on the new Graal,
the gani maps to the old body dimentions (i guess) cause
it looks quite strange!
ALso if you shoot an arrow it looks messed up.

Need to include the G2k2 carry and shoot ganis in the
download pack.

Com013 10-25-2002 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tyhm
Not necessarily.

If the script starts with that //Character Script by Stefan
Take the if(created) part and put that in the new NPC
take the this.mode==#; line and put that in the new NPC
Join the new NPC to the new Default Character script
and you're done.

Good idea! They all start with
NPC Code:

//Graal (version number here) NPC made by Stefan Knorr
if (created) {
// initialize attributes
...


R0bin 10-25-2002 05:40 PM

Re: Ganis on G2k2 bodies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by prozac424242
If yuo carry a bomb on the new Graal,
the gani maps to the old body dimentions (i guess) cause
it looks quite strange!
ALso if you shoot an arrow it looks messed up.

Need to include the G2k2 carry and shoot ganis in the
download pack.

Change your sig, you quit/got fired from rudora <3

Also, removeweapon is not ingored in the npc editor, like the other serverside commands.

Falcor 11-04-2002 12:06 PM

Sometimes transparencys of PNGs mess up when using setimgmode index,1;

Like I had the color Blue as the transparenct color in my png and it works fine w/ regular, but sometimes when its transparent, the blue shows up.

Tyhm 11-05-2002 04:50 AM

I can take a picture of Magic Bullet on G2K2, same problem, if anyone needs proof

R0bin 11-05-2002 10:30 AM

well, either my tileset is whacked and fuzzy and crap, or its black and there is no tileset. If thats what you call playable gaming, id love to see what you call "****ED THE HELL UP"

edit, oh yeah, i have a gforce2 mx on a p3 1000mhz pentium and transparency on pngs buggers up and everything works fine offline x.x

osrs 11-06-2002 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
try removing the Graal trainers you have on your comp , I say this because you were just banned for hacking with a trainer on Npulse.....:rolleyes:
maybe Sparker were NPC Admin and banned me because he doesnt like me?!
lol,shut up..

Spark910 12-14-2002 03:29 AM

Trainers are just pathetic. Half have viruses in them...

Brandon 12-28-2002 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel
Obviously there are still problems with the new exe :\
Raiden sent me this just now.

That is exactly what is happening to me, I found out it only happens (at least to me) when using 32-Bit color depth.

Zickle 01-12-2003 06:35 AM

You cant install squat now like WarCaptain and this other guy said in other threads.


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