Re: uhh
 

Good, I hope so.
Andor should stay as the derelict server it is.
Bravo should be put up, completly isolated from it.

Well, as far as I know, Old Bravo will be a completely different server from Andor. :)

Re: uhh
 

If everything goes as planned, the end portion of this post is dead wrong.

hmm
 

ugh...why doesnt anyone ever say anything then? (Besides speculation on the forums)

As far as i knew...Andor was changing it's whole outside, and it's name to something that started with a K....

Including stuff from Bravo would be ok...not reverting back to it. That's my opinion.

hmm
 

WildDude:

Honestly Bravo isn't even up yet and look at all of you fighting already. Do you know why I was so mad when I owned Bravo with Brandon. Everyone just wanted power they didn't care about running the server everyone had a power ego trip and you know what Bravo isn't even up yet and it's starting already. If your going to make the server it should be what they players want and I think everyone should vote on who owns what etc and things like that because thats how everything is worked out today.


Pete

P.S. Fighting of something that isn't even up yet is dumb!

Wilddude, back then you wanted power just as much as anyone else.

That voting idea might be alright though.

umm
 

Everyone went on a power trip Binge back then, lol. It was the first set of player worlds...all of that potential control handed to the players, and the players knew they could fight for it, and actually get it, as opposed to only being able to be a GP on classic.

Most people who had it, abused it. Those who didnt, wanted the power.

Luckily, i never got a staff job back then, lol...other wize...i'd be corrupt, lol.

hm
 

Yes Thak your right I did but I wanted to put my power to good use I wanted to help everyone and hear out everyone from Bravo and you know it!

WildDude

sry
 

Sorryi forgot you about you Goboom
and Twist

I agree on the voting thing, customers first. I vote for Thak, he is extremly talented, modest (sp) and one of the kindest people I know. He is the perfect choice. Bravo should be separated from Andor. Andor is not Bravo, and Bravo is not Andor. It never was, and never will be. I'm a bit afraid that Brandon might just try to do that, and make Bravo, Andor, and Andor, Bravo, thusly creating, Brandor. Name seems kinda familiar, huh? :P

Re: hmm
 

AGHEM! :grrr:

you CO-OWNED with Brandon while i was the Main Owner, then brandon lied to stefan and thinking he could do the best for bravo in return ruined it. after he lied i got kicked off my position as owner, well brandon fired me, and then tried to mkae 'New Bravo' and then jsut remade it all total and such then made it into andor. but before making it into Andor, he said to me on Aim that he was goona give it back to me, because he made an honest mistake based on good intentions, that ruined the server, yet not emailing stefan, so that went wrong too.

damn noone rememebres that right

And IF Bravo gets seperate than Andor, i vote we use the Second best owner it had, the same one it had before brandon.
ThndrShk2k, he listened to the people, he did great lvls for the server *deleated all but ts2k town after brandon*, and helped out everyone, hired great people on the staff, only mistake he amde was thnking Brandon and Wild where good friends and hired them are Co-owners *both co-owners*
and if ya want the ICQ log (If i got them from the backup... damn Trojan virii) from Zeth Angori i'll be happy to give ya one, because Zeth was the owner before ThndrShk2k, and it sayz that ThndrShk2k and Aeryn where the owners before Brandon *Aeryn's comp fried after about 1 month*

~â€*ThndrShk2kâ€* {Darnian Elite Warrior} {ZE} *Mod Rep* (Bravo Hokuten)
-Second best owner of Bravo

*note: this wasn't for against brandon, just facts*

:eek: @ Brandor....
that is really a weird, lol.

I think you might be on to something haunter, lol. I'm scared for my job, lol. (actually laughing, sadly)

Before Zeth, I was owner. Yes it was a brief ownership that lasted a week or less. But, anyways, I was owner, and I never made Zeth Angori owner.

Racoondog came back, and made Zeth owner. He wanted his friend owner. See, everyones claims to being owner of the server are all, uncredited.

I don't think I'd make such a good owner. I'm slow paced, the server would progress but slowly.

Anyways, the owner maybe should be voted upon by past Bravo players. ThndrShk2k has a good claim, and Brandon wants to fix past wrongs, as well as not abandon Bravo.

I don't see a vote happening anyways, I doubt the Playerworld comitee care much about the fate of Bravo.

We'll make them care. *runs frying pan* And it was SYmbonia who changed Bravo into Andor. He's the one who had the name changed when he was Owner on there with Brandon after it went P2P. I thougt how Brandon got ownership was Yakuna hired him as GP out of the blue, then Aeryn was gone for one reason for another, then Brandon E-mailed Stefan and some how got ownership.

no, Yakuna hired him as gp
Brandon, being different and immature, sucked up to Aeryn EMMENSLY, whenever i saw aeryn on someplace public, soon to be there was brandon if he was on
then Aeryn's comp fried, and he was away for about 4-8 monthsish
after 2 weeks, i hired Wild and Brandon to co-own together for me because my parents wouldn't let me on during weekdays cause of school, and i was still owner
Brandon had p2p and stuff and contacted stefan, saying he owned it
after about a week or so of fighting i got 'fired' and stefan told the server Brandon=owner

and noone can remember that even though i told many people that

^^;;;

~ThndrShk2k

I didn't know that. What a mistake you made making some GP co-owner.

FORGET IT
 

Nishoku:

Ya know what? You all sound like little kids fighting over a toy. Count me out of this project I dont want to be involved in a server where there are already arguements before the server is even started.

Re: FORGET IT
 

lol i guess i'm the one whom explains what their fighting about... if bravo has to go up i want it up good, if it doesn't HAVE to i want it not up at all

and if ya hating this result, blame MD *no offence, just fact* for asking stefan

or blame someone you dun like like others, maybe Yak or Brandon, people like blaming them! *lol joking here*

~ThndrShk2k

Re: Re: FORGET IT
 

I want either you or Brandon to own it, that simple.. Not MD or Goboom.

Re: FORGET IT
 

You know, you're right. People are just really passonite about Bravo.

* Bump *

Haha the first person I would think should own it would be Yakuna yes he was corrupt but he reallly loved Bravo but he owns UN and the second person I should think should own it out of all of you is Nishoku because he is very good at levels and he would be a good leader I don't think Thak would be a good leader he is too in and out all the time and he never can make up his mind where he wants to work I just don't think he would be good to own Bravo so I nominate Nishoku.



WildDude

ok
 

and as for Thndr No me and Brandon OWNED it if you OWNED it you would of been there leading Bravo you didn't even have rc at all and you would be lucky if they players even know who you are!

hmm
 

anyways why are you fighting over the past its over lets all just forget about what happened before and talk about what will happen.

:(
 

To be honest i wished i never asked STefan im about to leave the project my self. im sick on incosederat people complaning and Wildude i said from the begining if it went on andor brandon would be manager.i had not attantion asking for manager ship either has goboom so please ****en drop that.This is getting rediculas and dont blame MD I tried unlike most peaple and when we do revive it i dont want your thanks.

Re: ok
 

Yes i did own it, who hired you ask Co-owners in the first place I DID, ok? I wasn't on because of my parents, on the weekends, i was on ALL THE TIME, and by around mid June i'd be on EVERYDAY. Zeth was gonna give it to me in the first palce before Aeryn thought he could do better than what zeth was doing, and on the night of Feb 6th, Zeth told me, and i told Aeryn, i can't seem to find Zeth's ICQ log but i ahve Coon's and Cloud X's, and maybe Zeth's if i go on ICQ again


Edit: OK this is getting WAY too outta hand. Why not just stop the prodject before it makes more people go away from graal than it would bring, making everything sperate and then people working on bravo thinks whats their way is right and then fight within themselves and Brandon is left without even 1 server because of this...

Bravo was dead, don't try to respawn it into an ugle manikan(sp?)

~Thndrshk2k

Nishoku:

Heh, I say we all cooperate and get our home back up.. A simple vote could decide who to lead us.

hmm
 

WildDude:

I dont care no more fu** its over and Thndr you didnt hire me Yakuna did

Too much stupid arguing, so I'm gonna change my password so that other people can't use it. Anything posted before this was not me, it was ThndrShk2k. (Aside from the ones before about page 7)
Anyways, I don't know what the arguement is about, but I'm all for Bravo being restored. It doesn't matter who owned it in the past, or what Brandon has done, it doesn't matter. All that matters is that Brandon and MD can restore Bravo to its previous self.
Good luck to both of them. :)

And Thndr, why are you acting like this? :(

I jsut care too much about this, if it gonna go up, just keep the name Andor, jsut for the sanctity of Bravo, like so many people here said long ago, just let it be and die off as a Legend, because Legends are remembered for good times, but if you try to revive it too much, they become just nightmarish hells of reality.

I jsut dun want to lose any friends over this stupid thing yet protect the sanctity of it
why not jsut stop the prodject for it will make graal more of a hell for some, and yet others have false hopes

~ThndrShk2k

huh
 

Your not changeing my mind.But if Brandon wants to back down he may ill just have to work twise as hard to get it up.

This arguing will be the downfall of the whole project. We need to work together.

I agree
 

I agree with you brandon if we work together this can be the best project yet

doubt it.

If you can't back it up then don't post it.

Re: Re: hmm
 

Aeryn was 2nd best =/.

Re: Re: Re: hmm
 

no second, just best.

I remeber because Sortly after that I became GM =O And I tried to help you out

I wouldnt mine if Nish owned =O but Yak no I dislike him with a passion. Brandon you all need to give him a chance. yes he did mess it up. But that was the past he is a mature better Owner now I think.

agreed