Totally. You have SO got our number. :)

*Sigh* Okay you guys, now you current Jinshin members and Samurai's arent making me want to come back to Samurai, either. I think we should stop the childish namecalling already. :p

I am trying to fix this. :( I am working towards a peaceful solution as hard as I can, but Dashi is getting in the way. I was trying to arrange a meeting between him, Wing, myself, and whatnot to discuss possible agreements and changes so that Samurai could be unified again, but he wants to be violent, he said he will only talk to Wing when he is dead or has abdicated...

wow this thread has got bigger than i thought it would get but hey no i am partly famus not really

yes, he would. but they don't really want a unified Samurai. They want the old Samurai.

ok no need to be sarcastic dude

The old Samurai would undo everything that I have done, it would render everything I have done...null. I can't let that happen, I've done too much to let it all fall apart. We will find a peaceful solution and have a unified Samurai...

Duh. :rolleyes:

Personally I dont care, I think they were both good and strong Kingdoms but the strongest subsided.

what is wrong with that?

the strongest wasnt Dustari they use nothing but npcs wich is uncool samurai should come back i will make a guild called samurai if i did who would support

There was no subsider, really. Dustari basically threw a new Emporer at us, who previously abandoned us, which really doesn't make sense, and baffels me the most about this situation.

Because the old Samurai was falling apart, Lugie. I went through all of this so Samurai could live again...so far, the only ones who understand this are my own Dustari and Etamitu(Panda).

Oh well, just make the Kingdom stronger and hope it does better on 2002.

:( :o :mad: :rolleyes:

We have no NPCs...

ahhhhhhh dustari is uncool and its trying to be cool by taking over other kingdoms which is also uncool i think samurai should be recreated

do you feel you had the right to say "Samurai is busted... we should replace their leader"? Um... really I'm working from a biased opinion truely... but it still feels wrong to me...

Well, I suppose what's done is done, and I'll just have to hope that things are alright when i come back tomorrow. It's 3:30 am and I am horribly tired from that polish ball drop. :rolleyes:

cya guys and gals this thread has cuased too much havoc and i think i will delete it give me one reason not to

I will do all in my power to try and fix all this, peacefully, without letting Samurai fall apart. I promise.

PLEASE READ WHAT WE ARE SAYING! I'm sure it has been repeated many a times that NOBODY HAS TAKEN OVER ANYTHING OR ANYBODY ELSE! Yeesh!

It was a request. Wing wanted to bring the Kingdom back to life...promised me he would...I could not, cannot, and will not let it die. I have the right if I say I do, I do not care what others thing.

You have have got me wrong,
I want a unified Samurai,
but I am not going to Unify with thosewho have done such wrongs that cannot be forgiven,
what some have done mainly wing is called Treason,
that is unforgivable,
Furthermore I believe all your new principled and things you have done and are doing are wrong, therefore I am not going to unite and conform, the whole point of a rebellion is because we dont want to conform with the ways that have been thrown at us.
I have heard what Wing has had to say,
therefore I have no bisuness meeting him,
I will meet with you,
although it will be useless,

i somewhat agree with your intentions. though they seem, i don't know the word but all of this could of been avoided. i'm sure if everyone had been able to discuss this rationally

think before you act

whatever samurai also lost probally becuase they didnt have enough peeps online at that time

I can only wish this happened in reverse... PEH! if I goto bed I woln't get up in time for g2k1.... curse my inability to get up at noon=D

I spent three weeks thinking about this before I did it, Kasuagi.

It was hard for me to accept the responsibility because I knew alot of this would happen...

I suggest you go read a nice long book about Role Playing.

dudes ok i am confused i see no peeps with samuria tags on well grrrrrrrrr i am abot this close |---| to deleteing this thread

if wing wanted that he could create his own kingdom... that is why I have not tried to make my OWN kingdom... I know I simply couldn't hack that particular job(besides the current anti-new kingdom attitude)

Don't delete the thread, this is nice conversation, and surprisingly after 10 pages it hasn't turned into a total flame war.

Don't delete it. Please. It needs to stay here...too much information...

I fully understnad that you had good itnentions,
in your point of view,
but what you did was wrong,

I should have said this earlier.

The needs of the many are greater than the needs of the few or the one.

In this case, the many are Samurai as a whole. It needed something new, it needed membership and it needed LIFE which it was not getting.

ok ok i will leave it alone but wow am i famous yet

Well, I think I know where I stand on the situation now, it's safe for me to sleep. Good night (again), my love muffins. :asleep:

I don't see you as having done something malicious so much as making a bad decision as feival seems to be saying.

Good night, honey. ;)

Why would creating a long topic make you famous? :rolleyes: