I would never want to Manage UN, the size of the playerbase and the diversity would drive me nuts.

There is no way I am trying to "look hot on a public forum". Do you honestly think people browse these forums and go "oh my, that guy is so cool how he put that other guy down, I want to be just like him!" No. That does not happen.

A "NAT", "LAT", or "GFX" can not actually (in theory) lead a project since they are hired strictly for doing other people's projects. Why do you think developers are often more respected then your run of the mill scripter, tiler or graphic artist? In fact, scripters with almost no talent in tiling or graphics usually become developers simply because they usually have the most devotion to a server compared to others (not saying all scripters that become developers have no other skills though).

Not trying to pick you out personally, dude; just trying to break all these typical Graal fallacies that exist.

Yes it does.

It probably doesnt happen exactly like that, but for whatever reason most posters have other posters they look up to for whatever reason.

Sometimes the reason is because someone constantly puts others down and acts cool.

Huh, I always thought Developer = LAT, GAT, and NAT

So is a multitalented developer, i dont understand your point yet.

To me they arent, they are all equal. Thats what makes a staff team a good staff team is not putting one person above another just because of a silly title.

I just dont know who you are to try to tell everyone else what a graalian developer is when its very obvious that most people would say something similar to what I have said?

In my opinion UN staff sucks, Joe could'nt pick good ETs for his life and then Most of the staff just abuse there boots to run on walls so everyone with 100 hours thinks there cool.

I don't see anything wrong with the ETs Joe hire. Besides that, we're not forcing you to play on this server, even though you're not supposed to. :rolleyes:

I don't get it, You don't like the UN staff, and the server?
Why are you still creating trials to get able to go on Unholy Nation.
Besides, Joe is problaby the best ETA ever.

stop crying.

You dont have to like a server to go there and hope for improvement if youve played for a long time and just simply watched it degenerate.

No, you are incorrect. Developer is a broad umbrella term that encompasses anybody who develops (such as gfx, levels, scripts, sounds, music, animations, etc). Regarding the subject of members of a development staff having projects, this has always varied from server to server and from playerworld to playerworld. I would say over the years I've gained a fair bit of experience in developing for different playerworlds and not once have I ever seen the use of the term "Developer" as you're using it.

The history of "Developer" is that back in the day on Main Server (or Classic or whatever it's called these days) used to have the LAT (Levels Administrative Team) which was charged with the duty of administrating levels (obviously). Levels were considered a sum of all the tiling, scripts, graphics, and any other material within a level file. For whatever reason, other servers started designating LAT to mean solely tilers, and level work as solely tiling. This caught on and somehow it became the de facto standard for servers. As servers and later playerworlds went on, I guess some people started to realize the best way to run a server is to have all the people developing the stuff to be on a single team (because generally if you could do one thing, you can do the others), which is how the Main server originally ran (all under the umbrella term of LAT). Because these playerworlds didn't misunderstood what a level was, they couldn't use LAT as a term, so they came up with the term "Developers". It's all really been a cycle. A Developer is really a member of a LAT and a member of a LAT is really a developer (with a very narrow responsibility - tiling).

Joe does suck. And alot of the UN staff do abuse or it was dama when he worked there dunno havent seen much abuse lately though. I only stay at Un for sparring/events basically.

Could you be more specific on which rules they supposedly violate?

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