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jacob_bald6225 04-22-2005 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias
IAgain referencing Mario... It would be like instead of Super Mario Bros coming out... they made Mario more realistic and he hit things with his wrench and he could level up and he'd have to eat mushrooms for sustenance. It's totally not Mario.

Hmmm that makes me think... an Isometric graal server with jumping and swinging of the sword in four eight direction server could be fun... Kind of like super Mario RPG meets zelda.

Soul-Blade 04-22-2005 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Presumably they had truncated their goals somewhat to compensate for lack of talent.


What're you trying to say? KaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKa iKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiK aiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKai.....
lets not be stupid here. Who are you to judge talent? Who are you to make assumptions? You were on that team for a brief period and you act as though you know everything. I've read just about everything there is to know on that project. Including the extremely odd story.

Talented people should be the judge of talent. You aren't talented; you're gifted with better logic then most people. That being said, you likely are not creative or physically fit. In the end just about everyone equalizes, and that shifts by the sacrifices people make. You think you're something amazing, but you really need to humble yourself. I mean...we're talking about gscript. gscript! It is not much to be proud of. So please, lay off the insults. You don't have much room to speak. I mean, honestly now...what do you do kaimetsu? What do you do? Life is not something that is meant to waste away in the constant stage of thinking. Is that all you do? Do you have any purpose in life? Do you have any cause? Gah...you're pathetic.

I'll stop there although I have more to say. I am just tired of this persons king like persona which is groundless.

zell12 04-22-2005 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul-Blade
What're you trying to say? KaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKa iKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiK aiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKaiKai.....
lets not be stupid here. Who are you to judge talent? Who are you to make assumptions? You were on that team for a brief period and you act as though you know everything. I've read just about everything there is to know on that project. Including the extremely odd story.

Talented people should be the judge of talent. You aren't talented; you're gifted with better logic then most people. That being said, you likely are not creative or physically fit. In the end just about everyone equalizes, and that shifts by the sacrifices people make. You think you're something amazing, but you really need to humble yourself. I mean...we're talking about gscript. gscript! It is not much to be proud of. So please, lay off the insults. You don't have much room to speak. I mean, honestly now...what do you do kaimetsu? What do you do? Life is not something that is meant to waste away in the constant stage of thinking. Is that all you do? Do you have any purpose in life? Do you have any cause? Gah...you're pathetic.

I'll stop there although I have more to say. I am just tired of this persons king like persona which is groundless.

Wow. You are retarded. I could replace what you said about "scripting" with graphics. You are so full of yourself, and you've shown it in the graphics forum, in the thread bickering with scott and them about who was better, and about pixeling and psp.

Soulblade, just shut up. Stop comming around here to just say something. It really annoys people. You came in here to attack Kai, and that is not the purpuse of the thead, nor the forums.


Oh and who are you to judge talent? Kai is a very gifted person, he has great logic and is able to script very well. But you -- you haven't even posted any work in ages because you are afraid people might not like it. I'm starting to think if you have any talent at all, besides being able to attack people.

WanDaMan 04-22-2005 08:24 AM

His Graphics sucked anyway with the prespective of Graal >_<

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lolz i can act retardud 2! :cool:

Kaimetsu 04-22-2005 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul-Blade
What're you trying to say? KaiKaiKaiKaiKaiK[...].....
lets not be stupid here. Who are you to judge talent?

I can judge scripting talent by looking at scripts. I can judge artistic talent by looking at art. I can judge design talent by listening to designs. What else do I need?

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Who are you to make assumptions? You were on that team for a brief period
I was? How do you know this?

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Talented people should be the judge of talent. You aren't talented; you're gifted with better logic then most people. That being said, you likely are not creative or physically fit
Hahaha :D

1) "Better logic"? That's pretty much a deprecated equivalent of "more intelligence", yes? And that doesn't count as a talent?
2) Scripting isn't just about intelligence. It requires a very specific type of abstract, modular thinking that most people just can't accomplish.
3) Do you really think you can judge my physical fitness? Weren't you the one that admonished me for making assumptions? As it happens, I usually run about ten miles per week and I'm currently working towards my second black belt. Do you assume that all scripters are out of shape?
4) Creativity is fairly difficult to quantify, but I'll say that there's more to it than drawing pretty pictures. Given the blandless of your game designs, I don't think you're one to be calling other people uncreative.

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you really need to humble yourself. I mean...we're talking about gscript. gscript! It is not much to be proud of. So please, lay off the insults
You're telling me to lay off the insults? Do you even read what you type?

And as for humility? You've written this whole tirade about how you're better than me just because I insinuated that you're relatively untalented. You're the one with ego problems, kiddo.

Soul-Blade 04-23-2005 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
I can judge scripting talent by looking at scripts. I can judge artistic talent by looking at art. I can judge design talent by listening to designs. What else do I need?



I was? How do you know this?



Hahaha :D

1) "Better logic"? That's pretty much a deprecated equivalent of "more intelligence", yes? And that doesn't count as a talent?
2) Scripting isn't just about intelligence. It requires a very specific type of abstract, modular thinking that most people just can't accomplish.
3) Do you really think you can judge my physical fitness? Weren't you the one that admonished me for making assumptions? As it happens, I usually run about ten miles per week and I'm currently working towards my second black belt. Do you assume that all scripters are out of shape?
4) Creativity is fairly difficult to quantify, but I'll say that there's more to it than drawing pretty pictures. Given the blandless of your game designs, I don't think you're one to be calling other people uncreative.



You're telling me to lay off the insults? Do you even read what you type?

And as for humility? You've written this whole tirade about how you're better than me just because I insinuated that you're relatively untalented. You're the one with ego problems, kiddo.


Logic does not = intelligence. I'm not going to get into it because you don't understand ideas that are outside the box.

Most people can accomplish scripting. Don't me a *****. It is the easiest thing in the world.

10 miles a week? Hahaha...your second black belt? Hahahahahahhahahaha. Any more stupid comments? 10 miles a week is nothing. It is more then most people, I'll give you that - but it does not counteract the point I was making. Do you ever go to a gym?

My game designs? You've seen 3. I've likely generated over 30. The 3 you have seen have been far more original then anything on graal. Another stupid comment.

My insults were a response to your groundless insult, which brought us to about equal. Now you offset the balance, and I'm now restoring it again. I insult in response. You're the one who began it.

I don't believe I've once said I'm better then anyone, so it would be intelligent not to put words in my mouth. Relatively untalented? Don't make me laugh. As far as saying I have an ego - well - you're not one to talk. You have a groundless ego about scripting. It is almost comical if you think about it. I bet you're still living with your parents? In the basement perhaps? Yes...that paints a funny picture. The glorious kaimetsu, who thinks he is king of the internet...sitting at his throne in his dad's basement. Hahaha...getting all his pathetic cronies into the battle as well.

Kaimetsu 04-23-2005 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul-Blade
Logic does not = intelligence. I'm not going to get into it because you don't understand ideas that are outside the box

So how exactly are you determining that I'm unintelligent? By the fact that I disagree with you on some issues, maybe? But then, wouldn't that be a matter of logic?

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Most people can accomplish scripting
Yes. But there is a difference between being a scripter and being a good scripter. Why else is there such a divide?

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Don't me a *****
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10 miles a week? Hahaha...your second black belt? Hahahahahahhahahaha. Any more stupid comments? 10 miles a week is nothing
It's all I need, dawg. I am not training for the olympics here, I'm just trying to stay in shape - and I'm succeeding. Your claim is that I'm physically unfit, and you've yet to support it.

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My game designs? You've seen 3
All of which were uninspired and poorly executed. How popular was Shifting Ages when it was released? Let me guess: You blame that on all the stupid Graalians. They don't know quality when they see it, right? :rolleyes:

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My insults were a response to your groundless insult, which brought us to about equal
Good god, man. Do you ever think before talking?

Person A insinuates, with a single sentence, that person B is untalented.
Person B starts a huge rant about how Person A is stupid and unhealthy and short.

A and B are even? Don't be ridiculous. If the tables were turned, you'd be even more hilariously livid than you already are.

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I don't believe I've once said I'm better then anyone
So where're your faults? You claim to be:
  1. An awesome designer
  2. An excellent artist
  3. One of the best scripters on Graal
  4. At the height of physical prowess (or so you seem to suggest)

You also claim to believe that people are intrinsically balanced. So where's your balance? You must really suck at some stuff, huh? I wonder if that explains your performance in this argument.

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As far as saying I have an ego - well - you're not one to talk
"LOL NO U R"

Again, the evidence is right here in the thread. I disagreed with you about the nature of NW. You ranted at me. I made a tiny retaliatory jab at your developmental abilities. You ranted at me. If you don't have ego problems, why do you feel you need to escalate things to such a degree?

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You have a groundless ego about scripting
I do?

"I rank myself > the GST"
"I am a arrogant fool and would argue I am better then Kaimetsu"

Your words, dude. Do I even need to add anything?

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I bet you're still living with your parents?
How would that be relevant?

My father developed leukemia about eight years ago. He underwent drastic and repetitive chemotherapy to combat it, and in the end he survived. But do you have any idea what that kind of treatment can do to a person? In the present day, he's crippled by defective organs and persistent illnesses. He barely ever leaves the home, and most of the other members of the family have left, be it for university, jobs, whatever. My sister and my brother visit sometimes, but it's usually only for a couple of days per week.

Now, if I really wanted to then I could quit university, get a job, raise some money and leave home. I would be leaving my father to a life of abject loneliness, but hey, that's the cool thing to do, right? If you want to drag my personal life into this then go ahead. Tell me why I should do that.

konidias 04-24-2005 02:54 AM

Ladies, please. You're dragging my topic far away from it's original intentions. Make a "Kai vs Soulblade" bickering thread or something. I've seen you guys arguing in several threads. Take it to PMs or make your own thread for it please. Going into every thread and making your arguments public is rather childish. You are both great people with your own strengths and weaknesses.

Anyway, back on topic... Is anyone actually interested in seeing this happen? I could possibly do some graphic work for a tileset in my spare time, just to give people an idea what I'm getting at. Maybe can do some concept art of characters and whatnot... I wonder if Stefan would approve of a project like this?

Does anyone good at scripting think that a serverside fight system could be made that would work just like the default system, without tremendous lag or problems? I mean the old battling was very precise for the most part. You swung your sword and it hit whatever that sword passed through. Not just a small square in front of it or something.

Inspiration 04-24-2005 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias
Ladies, please. You're dragging my topic far away from it's original intentions. Make a "Kai vs Soulblade" bickering thread or something. I've seen you guys arguing in several threads. Take it to PMs or make your own thread for it please. Going into every thread and making your arguments public is rather childish. You are both great people with your own strengths and weaknesses.

Anyway, back on topic... Is anyone actually interested in seeing this happen? I could possibly do some graphic work for a tileset in my spare time, just to give people an idea what I'm getting at. Maybe can do some concept art of characters and whatnot... I wonder if Stefan would approve of a project like this?

Does anyone good at scripting think that a serverside fight system could be made that would work just like the default system, without tremendous lag or problems? I mean the old battling was very precise for the most part. You swung your sword and it hit whatever that sword passed through. Not just a small square in front of it or something.

Are you offering to actually do more than just "do some concept work"?
What you're basically suggesting is a server that will outdo anything currently out there. Quite a deticated team would need to be assembled.

Kaimetsu 04-24-2005 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by konidias
Going into every thread and making your arguments public is rather childish

Eh. I'm just defending myself.

Anyway, I do not think it is particularly mature to accuse others of childishness, either.

Amagius 04-24-2005 04:51 AM

Oasis screenshots please.


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