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Kaimetsu 11-20-2004 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by falco10291029
If this were the case, no thread could be closed

Not at all. I am not citing rules here, but rather factors. A moderator must consider all of them when making a decision, and any could be outweighed.

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A thread should be closed once it has done what it was made for. The only thing close to proof I can give is that no more good can come out of this
Why is that your decision to make? If somebody feels that they have something to contribute, why should they not have that right?

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unless someone tries starting an entirely new topic piggybacking this one, which is basically pointless.
Pointless? They do it for a reason, whatever it may be. In some way they derive enjoyment or satisfaction from it, and they should not be denied without some positive reason.

falco10291029 11-20-2004 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Not at all. I am not citing rules here, but rather factors. A moderator must consider all of them when making a decision, and any could be outweighed.

I can use that same thing against you for your argument to keep this one open. This has no more factors to keep it open than any other topic that got closed (except for rulebreaking ones).

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Why is that your decision to make? If somebody feels that they have something to contribute, why should they not have that right?
If the point was made, there really isn't anything positive to contribute. That is like:

[FAKETHREAD]

BOB: What's 2+2?

JOE: 4

BOB: Thanks, that's all i needed.

TOM: Did you remember to carry the 2?

BOB: WTF i already solved it, stop.

TOM: No I wish to use my right that kaimetsu claims I have to add to a thread.

BOB: Dang you Kai, dang YOU!

[/FAKETHREAD]

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Pointless? They do it for a reason, whatever it may be. In some way they derive enjoyment or satisfaction from it, and they should not be denied without some positive reason.
Give me an example of an instace where it's BETTER (Not equal to, or almost) to post a new topic on an existing thread, rather than starting a new one.

zokemon 11-20-2004 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
What an astounding hypocrite. If you feel that such puerile and illogical assertions carry any weight then perhaps I should take advantage of them myself.

'zokemon' has to have the last word just like a little kid. If he ever responds to anything ever again, he proves me right. If he doesn't, the board is a better place. Either way, I'm happy :)

You only proved my point as I said. Please grow up. You will go no more posts from me on this topic (especially since I will be going home for 10 days and won't be around a computer).

Kaimetsu 11-20-2004 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon
blah blah blah

Yay, I was right :)

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Originally Posted by falco10291029
This has no more factors to keep it open than any other topic that got closed (except for rulebreaking ones)

Who said that I advocate all thread closures? If you want to use this against me, you need to give a situation where I have closed a thread unjustly.

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If the point was made, there really isn't anything positive to contribute
Define 'positive'.

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Give me an example of an instace where it's BETTER (Not equal to, or almost) to post a new topic on an existing thread, rather than starting a new one.
Depends on how 'new' the topic is. For example, proposing alternatives to using server options is really quite relevant to the matter discussed here. If somebody started a completely unrelated discussion then it would only be grounds for a thread split, not a closure.

xAndrewx 11-20-2004 05:41 PM

you double posted.. i suppose you was going to click edit but you pressed post reply instead ( ^^ )

Loriel 11-20-2004 06:11 PM

No, he did not double post. Get a clue before you make such assumptions.

xAndrewx 11-20-2004 06:19 PM

beer goggles blind!

Loriel 11-20-2004 06:27 PM

I would provide a screenshot that proves you wrong, but the two posts are so far apart that they do not fit on one screen...

xAndrewx 11-20-2004 06:35 PM

post 2 than

Kaimetsu 11-20-2004 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
you double posted.. i suppose you was going to click edit but you pressed post reply instead ( ^^ )

No, I combined the two posts properly, but I forgot to delete the old one.

Loriel 11-20-2004 07:10 PM

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post 2 than

It might have been unelegant, but far from double posting.

falco10291029 11-20-2004 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Who said that I advocate all thread closures? If you want to use this against me, you need to give a situation where I have closed a thread unjustly.

No one did, nor implied you did, I just said that your criteria for this would have to be applied to all threads, and that this one should then be closed since others have been closed because they served their purpose and asked to be closed.
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Define 'positive'.
I'm geussing you mean in the context i used. I mean benefits that could be made from that topic from continued posting.
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Depends on how 'new' the topic is. For example, proposing alternatives to using server options is really quite relevant to the matter discussed here. If somebody started a completely unrelated discussion then it would only be grounds for a thread split, not a closure.
That isn't piggybacking a thread, that's continuing one. ANd yes, if the point was made, and soemone started an unrelated topic, it would be grounds for thread split, and then closing the one that served it's purpose.

Kaimetsu 11-21-2004 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by falco10291029
No one did, nor implied you did

Incorrect.

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I just said that your criteria for this would have to be applied to all threads
Of course.

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and that this one should then be closed since others have been closed because they served their purpose and asked to be closed
What? What? Did you actually sit and think and come up with that logic? All I stated is that numerous factors need to be considered before a thread can be closed. Why should this one be handled according to the same protocols as were used in closing others? This is where you imply that I agree with those closures. If I don't, clearly I will not advocate reimplementing those standards.

Yes, the arguments I've used here should be applied to all threads. No, that doesn't mean we should collect every reason ever used in closing a thread and pretend their application would be valid in this case.

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I mean benefits that could be made from that topic from continued posting
Benefits for whom?

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That isn't piggybacking a thread
Given that the term exists only within your own mind, I think I could be excused for misusing it. Of course, since I didn't use it at all...

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yes, if the point was made, and soemone started an unrelated topic, it would be grounds for thread split, and then closing the one that served it's purpose.
And now we've come full circle, without you providing anything in support of your cause. Why should it be closed? Give me one positive reason (ie, anything that doesn't fit the form 'why not?').

Crono 11-21-2004 01:14 PM

I thought scripters were mature ._.

Kaimetsu 11-21-2004 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami
I thought scripters were mature ._.

What is immature about debating?


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