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Brad 04-29-2004 11:05 AM

In this entire thread staff are claiming its not their fault. Lance it IS your fault and I am using my brain. A developer is supposed to run and manage the server. If your team wasn't doing their job you can go out and get more people. Wan is one of the best level makers in graal now and you shoot him down for...oh wait no staff. You are no longer active on the project, give it to someone who will be.

GryffonDurime 04-29-2004 11:56 AM

All we ask (we meaning me and Shadowless so far as I know) is more organization- no one knew what they were supposed to be doing.

--Chris-- 04-29-2004 02:53 PM

Brad skill isn't the only issue when hiring a new staff member. Scott, Haunter, guys...a manager's responsibility is to moderate and co-ordinate what we're doing. We know our priorities, we don't have to rely on him to tell us. What are we waiting for? Lay off Lance, it's not him...I'd say it's us >_>

WanDaMan 04-29-2004 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by --Chris--
Brad skill isn't the only issue when hiring a new staff member. Scott, Haunter, guys...a manager's responsibility is to moderate and co-ordinate what we're doing. We know our priorities, we don't have to rely on him to tell us. What are we waiting for? Lay off Lance, it's not him...I'd say it's us >_>

Mabey so, but I believe Shadowless may have the responsibilities to be the manager if anything goes through. Lay of Lance? he's the manager we can't really do anything else..

protagonist 04-29-2004 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by --Chris--
We can't just swing a magical wand and make everything all better again. Furthermore it's YOU players that played the part in making it die. The server needs YOU to be ran efficiently, a consistent player amount of approximately 60+. When YOU go inactive, it dies. Jeez! - then YOU have the nerve to whine when it's gone. Hypothetically if everything was already complete, whether or not it was released now or months later the impact on the players would be the same. The thing is..... if it's actually released NOW you'd have a half assed server which YOU complained about before leading to it's current status <3

Don't know how old this is, but it's the stupidest post on the forums.

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Brad skill isn't the only issue when hiring a new staff member. Scott, Haunter, guys...a manager's responsibility is to moderate and co-ordinate what we're doing. We know our priorities, we don't have to rely on him to tell us. What are we waiting for? Lay off Lance, it's not him...I'd say it's us >_>
I've seen Lance on Era more than I have seen him on 2k1.

brock128 04-29-2004 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
I've seen Lance on Era more than I have seen him on 2k1.

*insert obligatory owned picture here*

--Chris-- 05-02-2004 02:52 AM

How is that a stupid post?

Ziro_Vitrudestec 05-02-2004 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi
What really needs to be done is the hat needs to be abolished as an economic factor. There are too many hats, and they will need to be released in volumes too great soon after the server is released in order to meet the status quo. We need something to replace hats, something that there isn't 250 of.

A friend of mine and myself came up with an idea that could replace hats. Basically, it would be more than just collecting and showing. Let's say for example- if you could collect hats, wear them, and then go to an arena and have hat fights. Some hats would be stronger than others. Some would be faster. Some would have more accuracy. However, it wouldn't take over the the game- so it wouldn't be like collecting weapons (and other items) on GK- where that becomes the main thing to do. Anyhow, as for what my idea actually was, I told it to several people- some said they had similar ideas already. It hasn't been done to my knowledge and as of now, I'm having a PW do it.

protagonist 05-02-2004 05:51 AM

LOL@HAT FIGHTS!

I don't know how good or bad an idea it is, but it is very funny sounding when taken out of context.

Lucreto 05-02-2004 07:42 AM

Hmm dont you think kingdoms has the same fate as graal2001?
With graal 3d being made it'll definately take alot of the member base from normal graal though depends if people like 3d better then 2d.

brock128 05-02-2004 04:01 PM

Unless my sources are wrong, Graal 3d is basically a 3d clone of a 2d clone of a 3d mmorpg.

Basically, it's a 3d version of 2k2 which is a 2d version of everquest.

Awesome.

protagonist 05-02-2004 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by --Chris--
How is that a stupid post?


You have an obligation to provide a server for the players. The players do not have an obligation to play it.

If you truly fixed everything and made it nice and playable, then people would WANT to play it. You can't blame people for not wanting to waste their time on a server that is seldom updated and neglected.

Brad 05-02-2004 10:11 PM

How about you give 2k1 to someone who has an interest in revival AND has the ability to formulate a strong team. Someone who is popular, yet can get something done. This probably seems like I am trying to get control over the project, but I'm not. I think maybe Minoc, Shadowless, hell..even scotty <3.

protagonist 05-02-2004 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad
How about you give 2k1 to someone who has an interest in revival AND has the ability to formulate a strong team. Someone who is popular, yet can get something done. This probably seems like I am trying to get control over the project, but I'm not. I think maybe Minoc, Shadowless, hell..even scotty <3.


I agree, Lance doesn't seem interested in it since he is an Admin on Era now. That's a big dedication, and I think that more than one big dedication just isn't working.

brock128 05-02-2004 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
You have an obligation to provide a server for the players. The players do not have an obligation to play it.

Technically it's not an OBLIGATION. They could just dump 2k1 if they wanted to.

But my knife here says otherwise, if you know what I mean. *shifty eyes*

And yea, lance, either work on the server or give it up. You can't have it both ways, sorry to say.


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