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Fidel Castro 11-23-2001 12:56 PM

25000? how the hell did bird get that much money?


hell i voted no let leave him.


and trueheat and dante are lovely.

FatherDante 11-23-2001 12:57 PM

The problem for me isn't usually staff who do "bad" and "corrupt" things. In fact, truly harmful violations are really few and far between.

The reason players tend to hate admins is not because the admins do bad things, as the players usually say, or because they are just vindictive against them, as the admins tend to say.

The reason is that administrators love to stress how much they "give" for graal and how "underappreciated" they are. Do they fail to realize there are almost no players who would decline their positions?

It's like this... If I entered a charity raffle for a car, and lots of other people entered and all wanted to win the car, and someone won, how would he be looked upon if he said "See how charitable I am? Why don't people admire how selfless I am to win this car?"

Seems admins don't realize that's exactly what they do. They should be saying "I am very LUCKY that I have been given the oppurtunity to do something that so many people are qualified to do. I will always do my best to do my job AS GOOD as they would have done it."

Of course arrogance is irritating. And arrogance comes from both sides, but the admins should take responsibility for being humble. Until they realize it, they will never get the "respect they deserve."

CrispinX 11-23-2001 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Fidel Castro
25000? how the hell did bird get that much money?


hell i voted no let leave him.


and trueheat and dante are lovely.

call me lovely, i made a recording of me singing that song :rolleyes:

konidias 11-23-2001 01:04 PM

I'm sorry dante, but it does not matter, no matter what staff say they will be looked down on..

I mean think about what you said.. If I walked around saying "I'M SO GLAD I HAVE THE CHANCE TO HELP OUT GRAAL AND BE ON THE STAFF" people would just start saying that I "suck up to stefan to get positions"

No matter what, admins and staff are looked down on by some just because those people have positions. Period.

FatherDante 11-23-2001 01:08 PM

Konidias, have you ever read your comments on your position objectively? I cringe whenever you write about how much you've given up. Of course you've only seen one result, but that's because you've never tried changing you're attitude.

Nobody called me corrupt. And, quite frankly, I think it was the way I treated people that was the reason. If you distrust people as you do, they will continue to act the way you expect them to.

Fidel Castro 11-23-2001 01:13 PM

not everybody hates all admins i already said before james was a great accounts person, sparkplug is great at everything he does, as was ryan, lyndzey,panda, (more i am not thinking of), and quite a few of the classic staff.

lyndzey was head police person once correct? and where are her hate threads? oh thats right, no where.

TrueHeaT 11-23-2001 01:18 PM

I think one of the reasons everyone hates bird and konidas rather than lyndzey is because "fame" hasn't got to her and she is fun and they are totally changed by their "tools"

Providence_Admin3 11-23-2001 01:19 PM

I dislike the fact that people make threads like these.

"IF 300000000 PEOPLE VOTE YES, THIS PERSON SAYS HE'S STAYING! SO VOTE YES!"

If BirdBird wanted to stay to play Graal, he should stay to play Graal. If he just wants to be popular and get pity, that shouldn't be a reason to stay. I say go away, if that's the way your attitude is, Bird.

konidias 11-23-2001 01:20 PM

I have tried, honestly I have. I'm willing to change if it makes everyones enjoyment any better. You tell me how I would be a good staff member, and that's how I will be.

Should I just ignore people and go about doing my work? I mean it's hard to avoid conflict when you are a police and level maker... :(

Providence_Admin3 11-23-2001 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by konidias
I have tried, honestly I have. I'm willing to change if it makes everyones enjoyment any better. You tell me how I would be a good staff member, and that's how I will be.

Should I just ignore people and go about doing my work? I mean it's hard to avoid conflict when you are a police and level maker... :(

Hey I don't think you're corrupt at all, I don't see why other people do. ;/

CrispinX 11-23-2001 01:22 PM

Hehe, TrueHeaT said "tool."

Providence_Admin3 11-23-2001 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by CrispinX
Hehe, TrueHeaT said "tool."
Uh... thank you, Captain Obvious.

Yamizitzu 11-23-2001 01:24 PM

I beleive that Bird should make up his own mind, not what the polls tell him to do.

CrispinX 11-23-2001 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Providence_Admin3


Uh... thank you, Captain Obvious.

No, Aftershock is Captain Obvious. I am just that rockin' bass player from alias804.

Providence_Admin3 11-23-2001 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by CrispinX


No, Aftershock is Captain Obvious. I am just that rockin' bass player from alias804.

HEY! I KNOW YOU! :p


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