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xAndrewx 04-15-2013 09:05 PM

I'll be honest - no one could replace Thor. It's a shame he's let everybody down.

Scriptless is right though, what did he gain from this? A forum ban lolol

scriptless 04-15-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225 (Post 1716285)
Who should take over as Classic's manager?

I don't think that any 1 person is qualified to make this decision. Maybe turn the the community for that one.

Thor did a great job. He had a great team. He had a great vision for the server, and I don't know if thats something you can easily replace.

jacob_bald6225 04-16-2013 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scriptless (Post 1716290)
I don't think that any 1 person is qualified to make this decision. Maybe turn the the community for that one.

Thor did a great job. He had a great team. He had a great vision for the server, and I don't know if thats something you can easily replace.

The last active community of Classic spoke (The staff) and they decided it was in best interest to not continue development.

scriptless 04-16-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225 (Post 1716356)
The last active community of Classic spoke (The staff) and they decided it was in best interest to not continue development.

I don't mean staff, I mean players. Just because this group of staff lost hope doesn't mean everyone (players) have.

Chronos 04-16-2013 02:07 PM

I shall take the reins!

Matt 04-16-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scriptless (Post 1716361)
I don't mean staff, I mean players. Just because this group of staff lost hope doesn't mean everyone (players) have.

Agreed.

maximus_asinus 04-16-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scriptless (Post 1716361)
I don't mean staff, I mean players. Just because this group of staff lost hope doesn't mean everyone (players) have.

I think that was his point. The only active members of the Classic community were former and current staff members.

scriptless 04-16-2013 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1716394)
I think that was his point. The only active members of the Classic community were former and current staff members.

Well, wether we were logged on the server or posted on the forums only. The active community is still here. We just stopped logging on after the promise that no further updates would be presented. We did all the quests, collected the TCG and the only thing left for us to do was events. Looking at the amount of people posting in these forums, to me at least, I see hope in the server still.

Now, I am not saying that current restrictions are not hurting the server because they are, and should be changed.

Look, if Thor and his team don't want to work on the server and think it's a waste of there time then cool, more power to them. But why is it such a bad thing to let someone else who doesn't think it's a waste take over and waste there time? It's there life, and there choice. We shouldn't be fighting because of it, where is it getting us?

Pandar 04-17-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pandar (Post 1716113)
Maybe it's not exactly "stupid" to want to continue building Classic, but it certainly is a fool's errand. What are you expecting, even if you do hit the Classic tab? What playerbase are you reaching for?

Zodiac's playerbase doesn't play classic. They play RPG. You're not getting them.
Era's playerbase doesn't play classic. They play modern/shooters. You're not getting them either.

The only playerbase you have any hopes of commanding is UN's, and that's not going to get either server anywhere. By having two classic servers, you're effectively slicing the already tiny classic playerbase in half and splitting it between servers. That leaves you with what? 10? 15 players each? What's the point?

We saw this with Babylon, and that's why we stopped trying. Maybe if Graal had a sudden surge of popularity again, this could actually be worthwhile. But right now it's not. Graal won't attract a single new player until Stefan removes the asinine monthly cost of playing an already dead PC game.

There is very little reason for anybody to have any hope or motivation in continuing classic. Even if someone does want to "take over the helm," I really doubt a cohesive staff team could be put together that would do what Thor's team couldn't. Should just let what's dead, die. It's a shame, and I'd rather have Classic in UN's place any day of the week, but this is how things rolled out.

Minoc 04-18-2013 03:03 PM

The (mysterious) Messenger is also gone :(

xAndrewx 04-18-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Minoc (Post 1716578)
The (mysterious) Messenger is also gone :(

lol

jacob_bald6225 04-18-2013 11:28 PM

What'd I miss?

Remonq 04-25-2013 12:36 AM

If all these people had really wanted to help the server they would have been part of Thor's staff team. What it really boils down to is people just want the power to do what they want to a dead server. As far as I'm concerned there are a handfull of active Classic staff members, and as such nothing will be done to the server without our consent.

maximus_asinus 04-25-2013 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Remonq (Post 1716896)
If all these people had really wanted to help the server they would have been part of Thor's staff team. What it really boils down to is people just want the power to do what they want to a dead server. As far as I'm concerned there are a handfull of active Classic staff members, and as such nothing will be done to the server without our consent.

Would have helped but I was blacklisted (rightfully so), and I wouldn't have the time to work on the server now anyways. Actually, for the exception of scriptless, I don't think anyone has actively compaigned for control of the server.

That being said, you and your staff team must be pretty naive to think you have any creative control over the server. If Stefan were to say tomorrow that he was taking over Classic or putting someone in control, I doubt he would even consult the staff members who abandoned the project.

jacob_bald6225 04-25-2013 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1716899)
Would have helped but I was blacklisted (rightfully so), and I wouldn't have the time to work on the server now anyways. Actually, for the exception of scriptless, I don't think anyone has actively compaigned for control of the server.

That being said, you and your staff team must be pretty naive to think you have any creative control over the server. If Stefan were to say tomorrow that he was taking over Classic or putting someone in control, I doubt he would even consult the staff members who abandoned the project.

Ziplock for manager 2013.


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