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KawaiiSaRiA 09-05-2001 07:42 PM

haha, yea, like that time I found that copyrighted graphic in the pirate ship :p

Stefan, howcome only Tyhm and Peach..? I thought it was MY job to do those things...

Loriel 09-05-2001 07:43 PM

My comment.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Normally Nightlord has no right to do things
on Graal2001, and if he does (like the
ART thing) he needs to ask me before doing it.

No one is allowed to do update level on Graal2001
(except me). What is that graphics cave about?

Yes, I do not think NightLord and Mr. Bear as "(Chief) Gaming Officers" are needed at all. NightLord is a nice person, and I think he is not doing his job too bad, but this staff position is not needed in my opinion.
Bear should stay at Classic administration...

Why is nobody allowed to update levels on G2k1? I doubt it hurts at all...


And anyways, I do not think that GFX team needs any admin powers at all, same with Head Level maker, Events Admin etc. on G2k1.

ART is also not needed in my humble opinion. There is other staff that could do this job with no problem. (Like me if I still had my RC4) >.<

KawaiiSaRiA 09-05-2001 07:56 PM

Re: My comment.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel


Yes, I do not think NightLord and Mr. Bear as "(Chief) Gaming Officers" are needed at all. NightLord is a nice person, and I think he is not doing his job too bad, but this staff position is not needed in my opinion.
Bear should stay at Classic administration...

Why is nobody allowed to update levels on G2k1? I doubt it hurts at all...


And anyways, I do not think that GFX team needs any admin powers at all, same with Head Level maker, Events Admin etc. on G2k1.

ART is also not needed in my humble opinion. There is other staff that could do this job with no problem. (Like me if I still had my RC4) >.<

On classic they do :o

konidias 09-05-2001 08:01 PM

All I need (and have) is warpto, so I can warp to levels that I need to snapshot so I can edit them. (like I did with the market)

The levels that I can't reach since they are nothing but trees of course :)

update level would be nice to have.. but there isn't a ton of use for it on 2001 except to update a level if there has been any changes, and thats stefans job.. of course I wish someone would move the stinking elephant out of the farming land because its blocking a lot of farming space in the 16 apple field.. oh stefan, about farming.. you massed that there are trees that produce 20 apples.. yet the highest I see is 18.. was that a typo?

James205 09-05-2001 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Yes such a warpto thing might be good,
although it can be a quite powerfull thing,
that's why not many people should get it

Yes I agree, I think people who use it should get it. I had all my powers taken away in a second =/ I can't do part of my job now, it's gone. Really gfx is a staff possition, and I don't know if it's important or not I like doing my job and I would like to do the other part of my job.

Birdbird_0 09-05-2001 10:56 PM

I don't think I have anything too constructive to put into this topic, but I will give it a shot.

Well, Right now NightLord told me he has to find a replacement in his irl job because its only school and work right now for him, so untill he does, he said that he won't be on alot, as for Mr. Bear, I don't see him on that much, and the only people that seem to be helping graal in any way are the Multimedia department (Levels gfx ect.) Loriel (did :() And Stefan, witch we know has a job and trys to make alot of time for graal, :( and Sadly enough, Police seem to do a better job at "Adminastrating" Than some of the admins, *not namming names*
How can Graal function when there are high staff, that don't do alot? I know school just started for *alot* of people, but if that jepordizes their jobs, that they should no longer hold that position, because this is an online job, so ither you have the time or no time.

Agelaos 09-06-2001 02:20 AM

Re: My comment.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel

ART is also not needed in my humble opinion. There is other staff that could do this job with no problem

right.. makoz, birdbird, all the staff-guys on g2k1, could do it.. I do it too.. stupid to add a new position.. ART...

blackphoenix 09-06-2001 03:43 AM

I can see why ART was created, their aren’t a lot of people on Graal2k1 with RC or even a high enough RC to be able to reset attributes.. so it is to save time, and give the option to players to store their money, NPCs etc..
Loriel would you have the time to hold grelet and NPCs for someone?

From my point, having warp and update on classic is something that is taken for granted.. but from people's view from Graal2k1 server they are very different, maybe because Classic is non-p2p and Graal2k1 is p2p and rules are different.. their are more people on Classic than 2k1, and most staff members on Graal2k1 just play Graal2k1 or another server other than classic. So they don't share the same views as myself Kawii and James205..

It would keep the team more active if part of our job was to find copyright images on other servers as well as Classic and Graal2k1.. this would take the straight off of other staff, and save you some legal battles..

Admins 09-06-2001 04:11 AM

Yes classic is bigger and made by more people etc.

Hulk Hogan 09-06-2001 04:19 AM

I think art is needed...it does'nt hurt to have 2 more staff members
to take the word off everyone else. Gamer officer thing is like
gm/jr gm, same thing different title. Yeah gfx does'nt really need
warpto.......

Hulk Hogan 09-06-2001 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
I don't think I have anything too constructive to put into this topic, but I will give it a shot.

Well, Right now NightLord told me he has to find a replacement in his irl job because its only school and work right now for him, so untill he does, he said that he won't be on alot, as for Mr. Bear, I don't see him on that much, and the only people that seem to be helping graal in any way are the Multimedia department (Levels gfx ect.) Loriel (did :() And Stefan, witch we know has a job and trys to make alot of time for graal, :( and Sadly enough, Police seem to do a better job at "Adminastrating" Than some of the admins, *not namming names*
How can Graal function when there are high staff, that don't do alot? I know school just started for *alot* of people, but if that jepordizes their jobs, that they should no longer hold that position, because this is an online job, so ither you have the time or no time.

High admins *DO* do a lot, like the account managers contego
and merlin have to awnswer 200-300 e-mails a day at
[email protected] and other things you just don't see
the behind the scenes work etc......Mr.Bear's computer broke when he was installing a fan...a screw driver got a away and sparks flew :)
A *LOT* of what the admins do is answer emails.....Only some like Police Chief, ART , Events Team etc have to actually be on Graal a *LOT* to do their job right....

Hulk Hogan 09-06-2001 04:28 AM

also birdbird stefan knows as well mr. bear's computer crashed and he just had to buy a new one merlin confermed it (he lives sort of near bear)

Birdbird_0 09-06-2001 05:11 AM

I didn't say anything bad aobut mr Bear, I know that his comp broke, so thats why I just said I don't see him on much, but he is on aim all the time, besies that, I know Merlin and Contego do alot, Did I say anything about them? I am talking about in game, stuff that attract players, ART is not really need, there could be an ingame account reset, because if warp can be run off the npc server with no rights, than I gues a reset can be as well, If a person wants his stuff to be held, thats not right, if you reset your account, its your own fualt, you have to go run out and get the npc's again, so you get a friend to give you your money/items back, I don;t think it should be an adminastrators job to hold items for a player.
Most of the jobs for the admins could be done with npcs and the npc server to make the jobs esier, mail pms, telling the players that your pm will be answerd when the admin has the time and such, No body wants to answer pms about adminastration and accoutns and and admin stuff when in game unless they come on for that reson, (thats all the time ;-p) But I just think, I think, I think that that...that.... =/ most of the staff are here for a pourpose, most do their jobs, but some don't *not namming no one* and all I am saying, even if they have school, and they don't have alot of time, Graal is a job that you have to be dedicated to, even with school, so, "If you don't have the time, you don't have the job"

*crys* I need a cookie :(

Hulk Hogan 09-06-2001 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
I didn't say anything bad aobut mr Bear, I know that his comp broke, so thats why I just said I don't see him on much, but he is on aim all the time, besies that, I know Merlin and Contego do alot, Did I say anything about them? I am talking about in game, stuff that attract players, ART is not really need, there could be an ingame account reset, because if warp can be run off the npc server with no rights, than I gues a reset can be as well, If a person wants his stuff to be held, thats not right, if you reset your account, its your own fualt, you have to go run out and get the npc's again, so you get a friend to give you your money/items back, I don;t think it should be an adminastrators job to hold items for a player.
Most of the jobs for the admins could be done with npcs and the npc server to make the jobs esier, mail pms, telling the players that your pm will be answerd when the admin has the time and such, No body wants to answer pms about adminastration and accoutns and and admin stuff when in game unless they come on for that reson, (thats all the time ;-p) But I just think, I think, I think that that...that.... =/ most of the staff are here for a pourpose, most do their jobs, but some don't *not namming no one* and all I am saying, even if they have school, and they don't have alot of time, Graal is a job that you have to be dedicated to, even with school, so, "If you don't have the time, you don't have the job"

*crys* I need a cookie :(

We dont hold their items when we reset.....
The only thing it holds is onlinetime/kills/deaths....the reset gets reset :)! What if Stefan did make an npc that resets accounts?? A bug comes along and messes the npc up...Everyone's account gets reset...no one plays anymore.....:I doubt everyone wouldn't play anymore....but they would be mad ;)

*gives birdbird 34002 pounds of cookies* EAT UP!:D

konidias 09-06-2001 06:02 AM

I know this might be a stupid question.. but are daily backups of accounts made? I mean, if something ever did happen that got all the accounts reset, and since this is P2P, people would be highly upset that they lost all their hard earned stuff due to a bug or glitch.. Maybe every few hours there are backups made? I mean, I'm sure some things would be bad about that idea.. but not really.. it's a lot better than everyone getting wiped out and not getting anything back. :)

I have a lot of time I can dedicate to Graal because I have recently graduated from school, and I am making most of my income from the net anyway. I make more money than most people that go out and work 9 to 5 jobs so I'm happy with my situation. I could probably handle an admin job pretty well. I must have put over 2000 hours into Graal, and quite a lot of staff time from classic and 2001.

Yeah there are some admins now that don't do anything.. I remember one admin (not saying who) that never replied to pm's or if he did, he would give some reply like "I'm busy" or "not right now" or "I don't feel like it". We need game officers that can commit themselves to work for a certain minimum of hours per day, and do their job while they are "working".


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