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MajinDragon 04-12-2010 03:31 PM

I think people are fine with Dustari/CP boots' stats.
We could do with more bakers being released. speed+2 boots.

joel34 04-12-2010 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1568538)
I think we need more +2 speed boots, right now, off the top of my head, i can only think of Bakers, but who knows where those are.

with this said,
original:Pirate Boots (ac+2) (speed+1) (armour +5)
new: Pirate Boots (ac+2)(speed+2)(dex-1)

I would do Dustari boots, but i'd recognize CP Boots as rarer then Dustari Boots.


Using dex-1 makes pirate boots just ac+2

Seeya 04-12-2010 05:50 PM

how

joel34 04-12-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1568752)
how

dex+1 gives you speed+2

BigBear3 04-12-2010 06:14 PM

People stack dex over 30 Joel. I personally still wouldn't wear dex-1 boots though.

Seeya 04-12-2010 06:18 PM

for +2 speed i'd wear -1dex boots ez
i got 33 dex base, so hell, i'd love to wear some +2 speed boots.

MajinDragon 04-12-2010 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joel34 (Post 1568760)
dex+1 gives you speed+2

Dex is not Speed.
Dex adds speeds but has a cap, Speed has no cap, only a maximum attainable limit. You can still overstack dex by getting 31+ dex. Most are able to overstack dex easily.

Seeya 04-12-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinDragon (Post 1568771)
Dex is not Speed.
Dex adds speeds but has a cap, Speed has no cap, only a maximum attainable limit. You can still overstack dex by getting 31+ dex. Most are able to overstack dex easily.

Which gives us reasons to start adding critical -dex gear.

Conqueror 04-12-2010 10:42 PM

Teehee I do! Traded Bakers + rda to Kyden for Raging Dragon.

win.

Seeya 04-12-2010 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conqueror (Post 1568832)
Teehee I do! Traded Bakers + rda to Kyden for Raging Dragon.

win.

*wonders where that BoRD went*

BigBear3 04-12-2010 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1568843)
*wonders where that BoRD went*

Nate.

seanthien 04-13-2010 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1568773)
Which gives us reasons to start adding critical -dex gear.

Not really, no.

Seeya 04-13-2010 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1568888)
Not really, no.

ok i has 3 overstacked dex, if i decided to ditch pink wiz i'd have 34

i'd gladly trade some of that for wis/pow/speed/magic

BigBear3 04-13-2010 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1568986)
ok i has 3 overstacked dex, if i decided to ditch pink wiz i'd have 34

i'd gladly trade some of that for wis/pow/speed/magic


Let's just do whatever Kale wants. That'll make GK awesome, right?

MajinDragon 04-13-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinDragon (Post 1508991)
Phoenix Helmet
Current: speed+1 ac+2
Revised: Str-1 Con+2 speed+1 ac+1 resist fire+15

Reason: All agreed it's pretty crappy, ugly w/o the shield to somehow justify why you're wearing it. Boost not just because it's ugly, but because the phoenix set has no real relavance to the name other than speed... the stats on the helm however, are pretty crappy since the common cowboy hat has better stats... Phoenix's are usually associated with rebirth and therefore, prolonged life, hence Con+2, and fire resist to simply add more of a phoenix theme. Having con+2 would switch things up quit a bit though... So added Str-1 to soften it up, otherwise we'd be making an elite item out of nothing.

Orange Belt of Speed
Current: speed+1 armour+8 resist magic+5
Revised: speed+3 armor+8 resist magic+5

Reason: Not so speedy when Glok and BoCH give more of a speed boost...

Shield of the Sun
Current: Wis+1 ac+2 resist electricity+10
Revised: Wis+1 Pow+1 ac+2 resist fire+10/20


Justification: Pretty rare, the refference to sun should give it a fire element, don't see why it was chosen to have electricity resist instead. Also, the sun is associated with power i guess, revised stats don't seem too OP'd.

Wizard hat (purple)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist magic+25 attuned:mind
Rename: Purple Wizard Hat

Reason: Magic hats are far too generic, all the same yet there are raritys, obvious differences and room for a bit of diversity. This is the reason for all suggestions following. Can allow any player to recover their old sorcerers hat from the guy who teaches you magic, even oldbies. If these changes were implimented, a Sorcerer's hat would give the basic magic+1 ac+1 and there'd be no worries.

Wizard hat (red)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist fire+25 attuned:fire
Rename: Red Wizard Hat

Reason: -

White Wizard Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised magic+1 ac+1 resist holyword+25 attuned:healing,self

Reason: -

Black Wizard Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist death+25 attuned:wounding,death

Reason: -

Wizard Hat (green)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist poison+25
Rename: Green Wizard Hat

Reason: - *unsure if it's already named that.

Golden Wizard Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: luck+2 magic+2 ac+1 attuned: mind

Reason -

White Star Wizard Hat
Current: magic+2 ac+1
Revised: Wis+2 magic+2 ac+1 resist holyword+30 attuned:healing,self
Regfx: It's ugly

Reason -

Wizard Hat (black star)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: Pow+1 magic+2 ac+1 resist death+30 attuned:wounding,death
Rename: Black Star Wizard Hat

Reason: -

Witch Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: Int+2 Cha-1 magic+2 ac+1 resist magic+40
Reason: -

*cough*

Winged Belt
Current: Speed+1 ac+1
Revised: Dex+2 Speed+3

Justification: Current stats are extremely crappy. It's extremely inferior to the craftable glok belt and LPB. It's rarity and story should support the case for it to be made into 'THE' speed belt, along with Orange Belt of Speed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinDragon (Post 1508991)
Orange Belt of Speed
Current: speed+1 armour+8 resist magic+5
Revised: speed+3 armor+8 resist magic+5

Reason: Not so speedy when Glok and BoCH give more of a speed boost...

Re-Revised: Dex-1 Speed+4
Reason: With great speed, agility is sometimes lost. I'd prefer OBoS to be faster than Winged Belt.

MajinDragon 09-28-2011 08:33 PM

Black Mail
Current: ac+5 armor+40
Revised: Con+1 resist fire+20 resist cold+20 resist magic+20 ac+5 armor+40

Reason: 1 of a kind, awesome looking yet falls behind stat wise to even pmop.

sango_ku 09-28-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinDragon (Post 1669457)
Black Mail
Current: ac+5 armor+40
Revised: Con+1 resist fire+20 resist cold+20 resist magic+20 ac+5 armor+40

Reason: 1 of a kind, awesome looking yet falls behind stat wise to even pmop.

aprove :)

MLKJHP 09-28-2011 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinDragon (Post 1669457)
Black Mail
Current: ac+5 armor+40
Revised: Con+1 resist fire+20 resist cold+20 resist magic+20 ac+5 armor+40

Reason: 1 of a kind, awesome looking yet falls behind stat wise to even pmop.

I am agree with MajinDragon

scriptless 09-29-2011 01:03 AM

Keeping the same ac? Or removing the ac from the items??

cbk1994 09-29-2011 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajinDragon (Post 1508991)
Orange Belt of Speed
Current: speed+1 armour+8 resist magic+5
Revised: speed+3 armor+8 resist magic+5

I'm with Majin on this one, we need to fix the misspelling "armour" ASAP.

MajinDragon 09-29-2011 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scriptless (Post 1669479)
Keeping the same ac? Or removing the ac from the items??

Same ac

sango_ku 10-19-2011 10:45 AM

that will be nice if Staff on GK upload this stat change for Halloween.
That will proof us they try to revive Graal Kingdoms ;)

Felix_Xenophobe 10-20-2011 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sango_ku (Post 1671251)
that will be nice if Staff on GK upload this stat change for Halloween.
That will proof us they try to revive Graal Kingdoms ;)

A revival of graal kingdoms would require more than a few stat changes on items that only the rich have anyway.

sango_ku 10-20-2011 09:38 PM

that will be a good start . . . --'

Stephen 10-20-2011 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1671352)
A revival of graal kingdoms would require more than a few stat changes on items that only the rich have anyway.

He's a typical power player - why would he care about anyone else?

Googi 10-21-2011 03:04 AM

How about nerfing Ogma's Bracers and actually making them obtainable?


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