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Andy0687 04-02-2007 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1295773)
I see a GST as someone that helps, it's a benefit for them to know how Graalscript works, however I don't think they need to be very good at it to be in the GST.

Thats true and by that same merit any scripter could be a potiential good canadate.

I was speaking strictly on the grounds of being very good at scripting, you say Novo, I say Hell Raven.

Knowing how Gscript works is a very big advantage to being on the team and I dont know of anyone else besides Stefan who could do what HR can do.

James205 04-02-2007 08:44 AM

I've worked with Novo before, he's amazing at scripting... that's my input.

Chandler 04-02-2007 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy0687 (Post 1295774)
Thats true and by that same merit any scripter could be a potiential good canadate.

I was speaking strictly on the grounds of being very good at scripting, you say Novo, I say Hell Raven.

Knowing how Gscript works is a very big advantage to being on the team and I dont know of anyone else besides Stefan who could do what HR can do.

One for their own. I can't complain about that, hehe.

Inspiration 04-02-2007 12:41 PM

I think willingness to help out/good player relation skills are more important than being omgthebest scripter.

Out of pure skill, Hell Raven is without a doubt the best I've worked with.

However, I have not met a lot of these other scripters, so I can't say he'd be without a doubt the best canidate.

I'd still support him if he was interested though.

Twinny 04-02-2007 01:18 PM

Kristi is most interested >_<. I reckon he is the best candidate for the job but as for the most talented gscripter...that's hard to call really.

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Originally Posted by killerogue (Post 1295424)
Examples: Novo, Twinny, Hell Raven, Drakilor, Ziro, Maniaman, PFA, Twusk (You will be back buddy...:[), Chandler, OkieSmokie, Osrs.

Lol I doubt it somehow ^^.

warp2ukew 04-02-2007 04:16 PM

I think the duties are pretty sorted out within this thread

I nominate:
-Chandler
-Contiga
-Tig (If he won't be so lazy, he's a really good scripter)

Gambet 04-02-2007 04:42 PM

Yeah, that's nice, get another talented scripter to join GST so that we can never hear of them again.

Twinny 04-02-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1295874)
Yeah, that's nice, get another talented scripter to join GST so that we can never hear of them again.

Interesting....i also nominate Gambet!

Kidding >_<

warp2ukew 04-02-2007 04:46 PM

Skyld is still around, isn't he? GST never actually takes someone away from Graal, it's the people growing up that does.

As far as I've seen ,all of the "great" scripters are late teens, and have to break off from Graal for college and what not, so they leave, it's just a coincidence they are in GST.

If we had people like Chandler, who is new"er" to Graal, I think he'd be with it for the long run seeing as he is just getting the addiction going.

Gambet 04-02-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1295876)
Interesting....i also nominate Gambet!



>O, you sneaky little you......





But, on a serious note, it's rather true. Does Skyld go around helping people? Yeah, but so does every other above average scripter. I've probably released more scripts to the public than Skyld has, and you don't even hear about Cheetos anymore.

Skyld 04-02-2007 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1295878)
But, on a serious note, it's rather true. Does Skyld go around helping people? Yeah, but so does every other above average scripter. I've probably released more scripts to the public than Skyld has, and you don't even hear about Cheetos anymore.

I'm not entirely certain what you are incinuating here.

pooper200000 04-02-2007 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1295902)
I'm not entirely certain what you are incinuating here.

its not incuated its right in front of you...

Kristi 04-02-2007 06:21 PM

Mr. Gambet, how much documentation on gscript have you done compared to Skyld? Since you seem to like comparing yourself. Saying you have released more is something you are basing on a quantitive anaylsis, but what about quality?

Gambet 04-02-2007 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristi (Post 1295913)
Mr. Gambet, how much documentation on gscript have you done compared to Skyld? Since you seem to like comparing yourself. Saying you have released more is something you are basing on a quantitive anaylsis, but what about quality?



What about quality?


Nothing wrong with anything I've released.


All I'm saying is that I don't need a title to suddenly spark a bulb in my head that I can start helping people. All I've done on Graal for the past years is go from server to server helping out as much as I can and answering all the scripting questions I get on AIM.


Am I the best scripter? No, but, I try a lot harder than most people.



I still don't see what the point of the GST is, especially since all they seem to work as is a link to Stefan, which I have pretty good access to Stefan as it is already so even that's rather useless to me (the whole GST link with Stefan).



And releasing scripts is very well a better form of documentation. It's called hands-on documentation. You see how commands work in actual scripts, and you learn different ways of using them. Much better than a short description of what the command does.


I taught myself GScript through visual examples. It's the best form of documentation you can get.

Darlene159 04-02-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1295941)
All I'm saying is that I don't need a title to suddenly spark a bulb in my head that I can start helping people. All I've done on Graal for the past years is go from server to server helping out as much as I can and answering all the scripting questions I get on AIM.

So just keep doing that. Lord knows that there cannot be too many people helping others in this area. I don't see a problem here.

Gambet 04-02-2007 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1295946)
So just keep doing that. Lord knows that there cannot be too many people helping others in this area. I don't see a problem here.



Oh, I plan on it.


I'm not just scripting on Graal just to pass time, I'm an aspiring game programmer.

Darlene159 04-02-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1295947)
Oh, I plan on it.


I'm not just scripting on Graal just to pass time, I'm an aspiring game programmer.

Good. A win, win situation is always good. You help others as you help yourself. :)

Chandler 04-02-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1295878)
But, on a serious note, it's rather true. Does Skyld go around helping people? Yeah, but so does every other above average scripter. I've probably released more scripts to the public than Skyld has, and you don't even hear about Cheetos anymore.

Who do you think you are...? You're very egotistical.

Gambet 04-02-2007 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1295958)
Who do you think you are...? You're very egotistical.



Everything that I said there was the truth, it's not a matter of who I think I am.

Chandler 04-02-2007 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1295967)
Everything that I said there was the truth, it's not a matter of who I think I am.

I'd like to tell you a few home truths about yourself, but I am not that kind of person. Skyld has done alot, I find you a very arrogant child for you to try and imply that he hasn't.

Gambet 04-02-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1295971)
I'd like to tell you a few home truths about yourself, but I am not that kind of person. Skyld has done alot, I find you a very arrogant child for you to try and imply that he hasn't.



You don't know me, and I don't know you. You grow defensive because you like Skyld, and that's fine with me.


I didn't mean anything negative towards who Skyld is in my post, I simply stated facts based on how things turn out when one becomes global. It's completely argumentative.

Chandler 04-02-2007 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1295972)
You don't know me, and I don't know you. You grow defensive because you like Skyld, and that's fine with me.


I didn't mean anything negative towards who Skyld is in my post, I simply stated facts based on how things turn out when one becomes global. It's completely argumentative.

In all respect, but if you're a person to judge another person in that way, I wouldn't like to know you. I'd be ashamed, Jesus would be ashamed of you.

Gambet 04-02-2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1295977)
In all respect, but if you're a person to judge another person in that way, I wouldn't like to know you. I'd be ashamed, Jesus would be ashamed of you.


You seem to not see what I was trying to say, at all.


I like Skyld, I think he's talented, but my point isn't about who the person is, more of the fact that people tend to disappear/grow more inactive compared to how they used to be once they become global.

eronix 04-05-2007 02:46 AM

Touche.

Thanks for letting Rudora die, Skyld :|

killerogue 04-05-2007 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by eronix (Post 1296930)
Touche.

Thanks for letting Rudora die, Skyld :|

;)....*no comments as he waits for Skyld's reply*

Chandler 04-05-2007 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by eronix (Post 1296930)
Touche.

Thanks for letting Rudora die, Skyld :|

You're mistaken! ;)

MegaMasterX90875 04-17-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1275035)
Right, I lately feel that the Global Scripting Team is a little dead, and I would like to hear your opinions on what you think the Global Scripting Team should be about, what sort of duties we should be performing and such, so that I can work towards improving the team for the benefit of Graal.

I've also been thinking about having someone new hired, interested to see who you also think would be a worthy candidate for consideration. Keep the discussion civilised and to the topic. I don't want to hear "global staff suck" or off-topic chat.

MOONDEATH FOR GST >:O

Also, I think the GST should be like the go-to people for scripting help and like go around different servers offering script advice/help. Reason is, that so many servers die due to the scripters giving up or things just not working.

Crow 04-17-2007 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1295971)
I'd like to tell you a few home truths about yourself, but I am not that kind of person. Skyld has done alot, I find you a very arrogant child for you to try and imply that he hasn't.

I want to hug you every day for the rest of my life.

Sam 04-17-2007 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1295971)
I'd like to tell you a few home truths about yourself, but I am not that kind of person. Skyld has done alot, I find you a very arrogant child for you to try and imply that he hasn't.

Let me cite his reputation note: "Gambet can only hope to improve"

SayianOozaru 04-17-2007 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam
Let me cite his reputation note: "Gambet can only hope to improve"

Why you guys gettin on Gambet like that, huh?

Gambet does alot, believe me, ALOT. Not sure who Skyld is, or what he's done. I've played for 3 and a half years or something like that now. And I've never seen "Skyld". I've seen Gambet quite alot though. Maybe its because I play on only Gold Servers...Or maybe its because of what Gambet said;

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Originally Posted by Gambet
I like Skyld, I think he's talented, but my point isn't about who the person is, more of the fact that people tend to disappear/grow more inactive compared to how they used to be once they become global.


Chandler 04-17-2007 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1300737)
Why you guys gettin on Gambet like that, huh?

Gambet does alot, believe me, ALOT. Not sure who Skyld is, or what he's done. I've played for 3 and a half years or something like that now. And I've never seen "Skyld". I've seen Gambet quite alot though. Maybe its because I play on only Gold Servers...Or maybe its because of what Gambet said;

What such things?

SayianOozaru 04-17-2007 10:07 PM

Have you ever logged onto;

Zone
N-Pulse
Maloria(I think)

And those are the places that I know of. I would have to ask him and see if he's helped out anywhere else. Or you could, if you feel like. :)

Chandler 04-17-2007 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1300744)
Have you ever logged onto;

Zone
N-Pulse
Maloria(I think)

And those are the places that I know of. I would have to ask him and see if he's helped out anywhere else. Or you could, if you feel like. :)

What's the point? You have said where he has worked, not what he can do. He could have been an FAQ at any of those places. Still, that doesn't mean that he can script.

xXziroXx 04-17-2007 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1300744)
Have you ever logged onto;

Zone
N-Pulse
Maloria(I think)

And those are the places that I know of. I would have to ask him and see if he's helped out anywhere else. Or you could, if you feel like. :)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but.. I worked as Developer / Developer Admin on Maloria BEFORE/DURING/AFTER Gambet and.. nothing against you Gambet, but, he did more damage then good. Most things had to be rescripted after Gambet quit, since he messed up several systems.

Inspiration 04-17-2007 10:21 PM

Gambet is a mediocre scripter. Like 1-10 scale, he's a 5-6.

He can script, and he does do a decent amount of work for the community. I would not put his ability anywhere near Hell Raven or Skyld though.

However he hates critisim, he can be very immature, and he's also prone to fits of drama.

Sam 04-17-2007 10:21 PM

Ok guys I think thats not what you should discuss here. Maybe you can have a chat together including Gambet himself.

killerogue 04-17-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1300737)
Why you guys gettin on Gambet like that, huh?

Gambet does alot, believe me, ALOT. Not sure who Skyld is, or what he's done. I've played for 3 and a half years or something like that now. And I've never seen "Skyld". I've seen Gambet quite alot though. Maybe its because I play on only Gold Servers...Or maybe its because of what Gambet said;

My good man, how can you not know who Skyld is? XD

Skyld (Global Scripting Team) <- Ring a bell? :o

Skyld
<- who's name is green? XD

Gambet 04-17-2007 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1300748)
Sorry to burst your bubble, but.. I worked as Developer / Developer Admin on Maloria BEFORE/DURING/AFTER Gambet and.. nothing against you Gambet, but, he did more damage then good. Most things had to be rescripted after Gambet quit, since he messed up several systems.

Yeah, Mania said that crap because I left the server and went to work on Zodiac where the staff actually worked.

Funny how I told Mania to back up his claims and he never seemed to do so. I love the senseless accusations, really. I'd love to know what these systems were and how I messed them up.


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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1300747)
What's the point? You have said where he has worked, not what he can do. He could have been an FAQ at any of those places. Still, that doesn't mean that he can script.

I've been scripting for many years now, and I've scripted on plenty of servers. I've also helped quite a few people and I've released a lot of scripts in the code gallery. As for Maloria, Zone, and Zodiac, I was head of development on Maloria and Zodiac (was working on the dev project when we started it plus I worked on the main server and made a few systems such as the swimming system and the bounty hunter system and so forth) and I'm currently in the midst of scripting a few things for Zone (sniper rifle and an admin system that's already exceeded 1400 lines of code).

My reputation is not the best because I'm naturally argumentative and I don't just sit back and praise everybody. I point out flaws where I see them and I get on peoples bad sides for not kissing their feet over everything they make. I don't really mind, though. I'm just going to continue scripting. I'm not the best scripter, but I try hard. Always have, always will.

Chandler 04-17-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1300751)
I've been scripting for many years now, and I've scripted on plenty of servers. I've also helped quite a few people and I've released a lot of scripts in the code gallery. As for Maloria, Zone, and Zodiac, I was head of development on Maloria and Zodiac (was working on the dev project when we started it plus I worked on the main server and made a few systems such as the swimming system and the bounty hunter system and so forth) and I'm currently in the midst of scripting a few things for Zone (sniper rifle and an admin system that's already exceeded 1400 lines of code).

You've worked on all of those playerworlds, I couldn't really care less though. It's not about where you've been, it's about what you've done.

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1300751)
My reputation is not the best because I'm naturally argumentative and I don't just sit back and praise everybody. I point out flaws where I see them and I get on peoples bad sides for not kissing their feet over everything they make. I don't really mind, though. I'm just going to continue scripting. I'm not the best scripter, but I try hard. Always have, always will.

Which some people find rather childish. I won't lie with you, I for one do think you're rather childish. I'm glad you're still scripting, I just don't like the comments that you place.

Gambet 04-17-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1300755)
You've worked on all of those playerworlds, I couldn't really care less though. It's not about where you've been, it's about what you've done.


Yes, but you say it to me like I listed them as an accomplishment. Somebody else listed them, I just explained what I did on those servers.

I worked on Maloria ages ago, so that doesn't mean much to me. Some of my systems on Zodiac are still used and are quite nice so those arn't too shabby, though I stopped working on Zodiac a few months back.

The only one of those servers that I still work on is Zone.


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Originally Posted by Chandler (Post 1300755)
Which some people find rather childish. I won't lie with you, I for one do think you're rather childish. I'm glad you're still scripting, I just don't like the comments that you place.


I'm not all that mean.


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