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Ravenblade1979 01-09-2007 08:45 PM

Its simple for them to say no...lol.

Gothika 01-10-2007 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 4jordan4 (Post 1263000)
Yes, but the thing is that Bjorn probly doesn't want to. If he wanted to we wouldn't have to argue so much just to get some work done on GK

I will only take him 5 minutes, maybe less. To select all the trial islands levels and drag and drop it into correct file on RC.

4jordan4 01-10-2007 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1263148)
I will only take him 5 minutes, maybe less. To select all the trial islands levels and drag and drop it into correct file on RC.

As I said before.. he just doesn't want to.

Gothika 01-10-2007 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 4jordan4 (Post 1263192)
As I said before.. he just doesn't want to.

..As if 5 minutes of his life is so important that he can't do this.

Darklux 01-10-2007 12:13 PM

I think stefan and björn should really think about this.

Currently gk is no reason to get a new gold account anyways, its much too hard to get started if you have no friends with good items and cash/dias.

Ravenblade1979 01-10-2007 04:06 PM

Well its up to them if they do or don't but i would at least like a page to come up on graalonline that explains what a trial account is and the perks of having a p2p.

Gothika 01-10-2007 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1263344)
Well its up to them if they do or don't but i would at least like a page to come up on graalonline that explains what a trial account is and the perks of having a p2p.

I also think they should be a in game warning to this aswell. Most people don't read the home page. They'll just download and play.

hampy 01-10-2007 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1263357)
I also think they should be a in game warning to this aswell. Most people don't read the home page. They'll just download and play.

Yeah, perhaps when they log on or before they log off they get a message saying that they cant keep the items they have untill they upgrade their account, then a link to the website where is explains the benefits of having a p2p account :)

Gothika 01-10-2007 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hampy (Post 1263359)
Yeah, perhaps when they log on or before they log off they get a message saying that they cant keep the items they have untill they upgrade their account, then a link to the website where is explains the benefits of having a p2p account :)

Yeah, that would work.

hampy 01-10-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1263362)
Yeah, that would work.

:D

Ok, so we need to make a plan. I say we orginise a mass PM of Bjorn and Stefans PM box :) what ya think?

Gothika 01-10-2007 08:45 PM

I think they won't listen.

cyan3 01-10-2007 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1263387)
I think they won't listen.

True but it might be worth a try.

jonnyrocks2 01-10-2007 10:31 PM

Yea, I have a feeling they won't notice this thread, or even reply, or listion to this thread anyway.

Gothika 01-10-2007 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnyrocks2 (Post 1263428)
Yea, I have a feeling they won't notice this thread, or even reply, or listion to this thread anyway.

We're all acting like Stefans financial advisors here. We're telling him ways to make more money and get more people to upgrade.

Newbie_p2p 01-10-2007 11:42 PM

When i first started playing graal (not on this account) i really liked the newbie island, it was more fun and it give you more of a look at what graal kingdoms will be like. but now you can't do half the things that you was able to do before as a trial.

I vote for newbie island back :p

Ravenblade1979 01-11-2007 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hampy (Post 1263384)
:D

Ok, so we need to make a plan. I say we orginise a mass PM of Bjorn and Stefans PM box :) what ya think?

I like the plan.

dNeonb 01-11-2007 08:14 PM

We plan something that will solve this. Althought it won't happen too soon because it might be something bigger. But right now I can't tell you more about it because we still plan.

Crimson2005 01-11-2007 09:45 PM

Yea but hampy's plan sounds easier and faster

cyan3 01-11-2007 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005 (Post 1263747)
Yea but hampy's plan sounds easier and faster

It maybe "easier and faster" but if the idea that Bjorn is talking about will make the server better why not wait for it.

hampy 01-11-2007 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1263750)
It maybe "easier and faster" but if the idea that Bjorn is talking about will make the server better why not wait for it.

Indeed :)

dNeonb 01-11-2007 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1263750)
It maybe "easier and faster" but if the idea that Bjorn is talking about will make the server better why not wait for it.

It might solve the whole problem of trials. Well, I hope it does but it's not up to me so not only you als I have to wait until I get more informations about it.
If it doesn't happen well, we can still do the other thing.

Felix_Xenophobe 01-12-2007 05:46 PM

Trials should start in bmode.
That would be fun.

dNeonb 01-12-2007 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1264114)
Trials should start in bmode.
That would be fun.

I guess not for them >_<

Sam 01-12-2007 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1264114)
Trials should start in bmode.
That would be fun.

Not really. Sorry folks, but you all should remember the days when you start playing GK. It's not easy to find out what to do and so on.
I think it would be much better to set up an assistance guild for new members instead of attacking them or sitting in trade room and being bored and lazy.

Felix_Xenophobe 01-12-2007 06:47 PM

I never started playing GK from the bottom, I just spent 600 bucks on leet gear.

cyan3 01-12-2007 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1264127)
Not really. Sorry folks, but you all should remember the days when you start playing GK. It's not easy to find out what to do and so on.
I think it would be much better to set up an assistance guild for new members instead of attacking them or sitting in trade room and being bored and lazy.

I think that will help most of the people who have just started just stand around asking for items, but when i started i got all my gear myself and worked hard for it. But now people are lazy when they start.

ViperZakuto 01-13-2007 03:02 AM

well, this post brings back memories from the thread about helping noobies some time ago. (I think it was sam's thread)

maybe people give too much to the newer players and make them lazy. I agree, and participate, in helping out and teaching new players. but, they don't understand the time and effort this game takes if you just give them the gear they need. Make them work for it some. Let them figure out if they have the patience it takes to play gk... that is what this game is all about PATIENCE lol

Ravenblade1979 01-13-2007 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperZakuto (Post 1264311)
well, this post brings back memories from the thread about helping noobies some time ago. (I think it was sam's thread)

maybe people give too much to the newer players and make them lazy. I agree, and participate, in helping out and teaching new players. but, they don't understand the time and effort this game takes if you just give them the gear they need. Make them work for it some. Let them figure out if they have the patience it takes to play gk... that is what this game is all about PATIENCE lol

I like this but you haven't really been around them like us on days have. if you don't give them something they move onto someone else and so on until someone gives them something then they do it all over again or if you refuse swear at you and just keep going.

ViperZakuto 01-13-2007 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1264468)
I like this but you haven't really been around them like us on days have. if you don't give them something they move onto someone else and so on until someone gives them something then they do it all over again or if you refuse swear at you and just keep going.

yeah i know this all too well. not much you can do but ignore those people.

Switch 01-14-2007 02:58 AM

Trial Island was DA BOMB for trials! Plus when I was a trial, me and my friend were chatting, and then he went to the main land, and I couldn't, and that made me upgrade to Gold (I also got infinite Class O.O). BRING BACK TRIAL ISLAND!
P.S. I hate when those trials tell us to give them stuff xD

Ravenblade1979 01-14-2007 09:27 PM

Well this is going nowhere. they should close the thread. not like they will listen.

hampy 01-14-2007 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1264909)
Well this is going nowhere. they should close the thread. not like they will listen.

Thats not true, Bjorn has seen this thread and he says hes working on something which may solve this problem. If he gets what hes working on done and it doesnt solve this problem i'm sure he will reconsider. We should just be thankful that he is working on something and trying to improve GK

Ravenblade1979 01-14-2007 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hampy (Post 1264915)
Thats not true, Bjorn has seen this thread and he says hes working on something which may solve this problem. If he gets what hes working on done and it doesnt solve this problem i'm sure he will reconsider. We should just be thankful that he is working on something and trying to improve GK

Yeah thats a good point there. Hopefully it works.

ZuperZeb42 01-21-2007 01:24 PM

Raven, the clearest solution is trial island.

Ravenblade1979 01-21-2007 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ZuperZeb42 (Post 1267090)
Raven, the clearest solution is trial island.

Don't i know it.

ViperZakuto 01-21-2007 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hampy (Post 1264915)
Thats not true, Bjorn has seen this thread and he says hes working on something which may solve this problem. If he gets what hes working on done and it doesnt solve this problem i'm sure he will reconsider. We should just be thankful that he is working on something and trying to improve GK

Hopefully they don't prove you wrong. This has been in plan for a while now. If it isn't released soon(not rushing anybody) It isn't going to fix the current situation.

cutelilmurderer 01-21-2007 07:06 PM

Let me tell you about my experience with the trial island and why it made me play.

I started out on a beach and some robot people come up to me and tell me that they will help me out. I'm like "Hahaha cute lil' NPC's helping me up." Then they tell you how to mine, craft, what items are and what stuff does. They give you a basic interaction with the game directly instead of other players and give you a general idea of what is valuable and what the span is of what could possibly happen here.

I mean really, Graal Kingdoms covers it all. You could mine, craft, build up any skill tree, there are no class restrictions, no item bars (requirements for carrying a weapon), you could go fishing, you could make bread, make perfumes, grow flora AND fauna, you could raise an army of monsters, you could shoot fireballs and lightning, you could follow a god, you could learn to disarm traps, you could build battleships and blimps, you could do arena battles, you could use alchemy, you could change clothes and faces, you could wear masks and capes, you could sell diamonds, you could build houses and castle type fortifications, you could build weapons, race carts, build mining carts and do expeditions of mining, fight giant monsters and underground beasts, ride horses, play minigames, gather wood, and there are of course five kingdoms that have their own islands, leaders and rules.

When a beginner starts a game like that then WHAM, you are like, "Where the hell do I sign up!?" When another player is around you will ask him where the mines are and how to get something done.

That segregates the old and new players very far apart, it is so sad. You will find yourself avoiding players with names that are not in gold letters, walking around groups of people asking for pickaxes or wands, avoiding confrontations in the tradehouse with people asking where to get money.

It is truly out of hand. I would not want to play if a cool looking player like me just walked by instead of hanging out for a minute. I truly believe myself to be one of the most selfless players on this server but I DO confess that I often refuse the help of players without gold accounts. It really is a shame to have that island taken away.

What made YOU pay for gold and stay with the kingdoms server? Newbie island won me.

ReBorn_Spirit 01-21-2007 11:38 PM

A Large popup should be thrown into any trial members window before they leave that start house explaining to them their limitations as a trail member, and where to become a gold member as a button they can click on. Also a close button for this window would be needed.

A second feature/addon should be some basic starting armour for them to use, like worn leather armour, to atleast keep them safe enough to attack a shell bomy with some chance of winning. As it is right now they have to gang beat (more then 2 people) a shell bomy to actually kill it.

I think it would be nice for them to atleast have some partial save feature, so they do not have to ask for a weapon 300 times. Strict limitations of level 3 and no higher (or whatever you think is best) and not being able to leave Bomboria, would make more sense to me. Though the level resitrction isn't required, but for old players that have alot of items on a second account could atleast regain their items then and not really have to worry about it much more. For a level restriction you could put in that unless you have gold time you just cannot gain anymore experience after level 5, that is, until you upgrade your account again.

Ravenblade1979 01-22-2007 07:36 AM

Bring back trial island.

Sam 01-22-2007 02:46 PM

It's nice you all have alot of ideas what to do with trials, but as far as I know is there a decision made by the management of Graal. They will tell you what will happen when the time has come.


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