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Codein 11-05-2005 04:22 PM

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Yeah, i'll admit, our map sux. the levels on it don't match up right. I'm just waiting till our new tileset is done to upload it And personally, I don't care if you think it sucks. I just want you to maintain an open mind for the finished product.
You should care. Our "discouraging" opinions should instinctively tell you that this isn't working, and things to need to change and/or improve.

Aknts 11-05-2005 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jacob_bald6225
I totally said it sucked in many threads about 1-2 months ago!


Me too broseph.

Hell check the front page of this thread where I was talking about the levels.




THIS SERVER SUCKS!

excaliber7388 11-05-2005 05:23 PM

okay, those are not levels from the current DR, 1st off, and I have taken all of your advise, I am improving the levels, map etc. I'm taking what you said into consideration, thats why I don't care, because your complaints won't relate to the finished product :)
****also, more to the point:
I am going to be adding a new type of Capture the Flag to DR. This will be very different from any CTF you have ever played before :) It will have 4 teams, each one lead by one commander. The commander will be able to watch the entire game from one room, and design strategies, then tell his army what to do. There will be special weapons, just for CTF. The commander will have to make money (the money used for CTF is different than graalats, you can exchande g for ctf money, but not the other way) he may send people in to steal money from the opposition, etc. There will also be unoccupied bases that wil be able to be taken over by an army. The games last a full month, and the winner at the end will get the number of points they had turned into graalats (or event coins) and distributed to the players. Points are reset monthly, but money is not. You can never switch teams, but you can be traded. If you do not follow your suppirior's orders, you will be kicked out of your army, and no other army will be able to take you in. (Except for rouge armies, smaller armies other than the main 4. don't get flag points, but can use weapons, and steal.) And the commanders make their head quarters themselves, but they must follow specific rules like:
only the Commanders room may have an account 'lock' on it.
must have under 20 levels (may change)
may have traps, but nothing that can kill a player in one hit, traps must only do .5 damage, and must be easily avioded if the person knows they are there.
required rooms:Commanders office, hall, flag room, treasure room additional rooms may be made
may not have jail like areas (mazes that lead to a locked room,etc)
all rules may change before I release it. Might add more as well. :)

Skyld 11-05-2005 06:18 PM

Okay, let me give you one large tip.

Stop focusing on what you would like to do, and work on what needs doing. Your server does require a lot of improvement, so focus on that instead.

excaliber7388 11-05-2005 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld
Okay, let me give you one large tip.

Stop focusing on what you would like to do, and work on what needs doing. Your server does require a lot of improvement, so focus on that instead.

I know i know, dont worry, DR is being worked on.new map, new tileset, more levels, (better ones too, i got a good lat to help me out a bit) but this is gonna be a fun addition. The problem is, i need to get people interested in the server, so I can get more staff. (I have a pitifull ammount now)

Mykel 11-05-2005 06:51 PM

Kronan and I popped on for about 5 minutes yesterday. The starting inside level isn't all that bad. And I thought that maybe you actually got a good LAT to make you levels. Then we went out onto the OW and BAM. :(

Also, when I PKed Kronan, he couldn't get back up, rofl. I'm guessing some kind of scripting error there.

excaliber7388 11-05-2005 07:39 PM

I have no scripts that would do this, however, when people use v4 this bug occures. Still havn't figured it out. And the overworld should look better, eventually. Especially after we are finished making the new tileset, which will be more detailed to begin with. Thanks :)

MysticX2X 11-05-2005 10:47 PM

maybe you should just redo your whole playerworld with something else then this "Dark Rival"

excaliber7388 11-06-2005 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X
maybe you should just redo your whole playerworld with something else then this "Dark Rival"

Ignoring the gramatical flaws in this sentence, I would like to piont out that it take more time to make a server than to fix DR, and I have a lifetime to do it anyway. DR's here to stay! yay! :D

Skyld 11-06-2005 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
Ignoring the gramatical flaws in this sentence, I would like to piont out that it take more time to make a server than to fix DR, and I have a lifetime to do it anyway. DR's here to stay! yay! :D

Ignoring the spelling mistakes in your post, I would like to ask that you stop posting propaganda, and actually work on your server. Quietly. :redface:

Minoc 11-06-2005 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
DR's here to stay! yay! :D

It's not really "here" yet.

Codein 11-06-2005 01:17 AM

Of course it's here. If it wasn't, we wouldn't have to put up with this crap.

excaliber7388 11-06-2005 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Codein
Of course it's here. If it wasn't, we wouldn't have to put up with this crap.

one wiser than you would point out the fact that this would be nothing but a simple thread announcing the events taking place on DR, had it not been for you brining your half witted 2 cents into this. But you decided to become a part, and therefore, have too put up with your own mistakes.
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Originally Posted by Skyld
I would like to ask that you stop posting propaganda, and actually work on your server. Quietly. :redface:

A dream you and I share, unfortuanatly, this thread would be quite small if not for the petty arguments brought into it, and if I didn't constantly have to defend myself agains this harassment, I would be able to continue as planned. Dreams do come true, but only if it's quiet enough to fall asleep.

Codein 11-06-2005 02:02 AM

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one wiser than you would point out the fact that this would be nothing but a simple thread announcing the events taking place on DR, had it not been for you brining your half witted 2 cents into this. But you decided to become a part, and therefore, have too put up with your own mistakes.
My half-witted 2 cents are the results in your constant belief that Dark Rival will amount to something good, but by the looks of the way you're going, I doubt it will at all.

If I were you, I'd treat my 2 cents like 50 bucks, because for what it's worth, you might actually come to your senses and do what I said. I will tell you this once more:

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Develop a GOOD style. Have a look at experienced Level Makers, and look at some tutorials. Spanky's, Gori's and Sir Gareth's tutorials helped me alot.

Have a look for Wan's tutorials aswell, they're always good (New tutorial coming soon)
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A dream you and I share, unfortuanatly, this thread would be quite small if not for the petty arguments brought into it, and if I didn't constantly have to defend myself agains this harassment, I would be able to continue as planned. Dreams do come true, but only if it's quiet enough to fall asleep.
You keep making up these ideas, and telling us all. It's your fault we're argueing with you. You're saying "We will soon have a new CTF! New rules, and everything!". What you really need is a decent level designer, and a good graphics designer. Either that, or experience yourself.

I respect you for trying to make a playerworld so early, but you have to learn to walk, before you can run.

excaliber7388 11-06-2005 02:18 AM

If you truly wanted to help, you would use a PM, but if your intentions were not as good as you make them seem, you would post it for all to see.

MysticX2X 11-06-2005 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
Ignoring the gramatical flaws in this sentence, I would like to piont out that it take more time to make a server than to fix DR, and I have a lifetime to do it anyway. DR's here to stay! yay! :D

Just like how you mispelled "point"? And have the text in DR? Stop being hypocritical

excaliber7388 11-06-2005 02:28 AM

Lol, typos are mu lpfe yeah yeah yeah...but grammer is more important than spelling :p jk but speaking of points, I think you just strayed from it XD

Codein 11-06-2005 02:47 AM

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If you truly wanted to help, you would use a PM, but if your intentions were not as good as you make them seem, you would post it for all to see.
My intentions are as good as gold.
The whole point of posting for all to see is so that you can't say that I didn't tell you. Otherwise, it'd be easy just to disregard my advice, and deny I ever said anything to you.

excaliber7388 11-06-2005 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Codein
My intentions are as good as gold.
The whole point of posting for all to see is so that you can't say that I didn't tell you. Otherwise, it'd be easy just to disregard my advice, and deny I ever said anything to you.

So? good deeds should not be done for recognition, but just for the fact that it helps others. If I disregard your advise, it ony hurts me, so I have no reason to.

Codein 11-06-2005 03:10 AM

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So? good deeds should not be done for recognition, but just for the fact that it helps others. If I disregard your advise, it ony hurts me, so I have no reason to.
Do you think argueing with you is making me popular and recognized? No, I thought not.

I'm argueing with you here and now, and in public, because I want you to read it, and take notice of it. How do I know you've even bothered to read my PM? Using this method of public arguement, I can be sure that you're actually reading my advice.

So, why don't you give up trying to prove I'm in the wrong, and actually take my advice? It won't hurt.

excaliber7388 11-06-2005 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Codein
Do you think argueing with you is making me popular and recognized? No, I thought not.

I'm argueing with you here and now, and in public, because I want you to read it, and take notice of it. How do I know you've even bothered to read my PM? Using this method of public arguement, I can be sure that you're actually reading my advice.

So, why don't you give up trying to prove I'm in the wrong, and actually take my advice? It won't hurt.

You can choose to have the message confirmed. It's rather simple, if I read it, you know. I think you had good advise, but saying things like DR sux doesn't help anyone.

MysticX2X 11-06-2005 03:24 AM

It helps people to stay away from applying there which everyone is doing a good job at. Except for the people who dont go on the forum, maybe.

Codein 11-06-2005 03:25 AM

I was told my levels and my projects sucked all the time, by my peers (WanDaMan and SnakeAndy), and after a while, I started taking advice, and getting better and better.

I'm trying to pass on the good advice unto you, in the same fashion as the people who passed on the advice to me.

excaliber7388 11-06-2005 03:58 AM

Well in that case, thanks

Codein 11-06-2005 04:09 AM

Say, if you've got time or anything, drop me a line on my AIM at KanOfKoke and I'll give you a few pointers here and there. I might fix up something for you too :)

excaliber7388 11-10-2005 10:41 PM

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Some new stuff:
new levels, got rid of the crappy first levels
and a new tileset (still working on it, but it's close to finished) its got a little bit of the new, and old
:D

Sulukra 11-10-2005 11:42 PM

Your tileset looks like a re-colour of the original tileset. And it isn't even a good one.

EDIT:Those flowers look familiar.

excaliber7388 11-11-2005 12:10 AM

Not just a recolor, it also will have new tiles (i havn't loaded this version of it online yet) it has higher contrast, EACH tile has more detail. and there's more to come ;)

Mykel 11-11-2005 12:19 AM

Well, the levels DO look a lot better. It's a start.

Methril 11-18-2005 04:06 AM

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I have been working on the level in the bottom left.

Codein 11-18-2005 03:10 PM

Good work, Methril :)

zim5354 11-18-2005 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sulukra
Your tileset looks like a re-colour of the original tileset. And it isn't even a good one.

EDIT:Those flowers look familiar.

They were in alot of other tilesets.

excaliber7388 11-18-2005 04:33 PM

Yeah, since I couldn't make the levels look clasic, i decided to make the tiles look more clasicish XD im still working on em

Minoc 11-18-2005 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zim5354
They were in alot of other tilesets.

Ripped from the old tileset.

excaliber7388 11-18-2005 09:09 PM

actuallly, i made them with it in mind, i doubt they're exact :D

syltburk 11-18-2005 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mykel
.The only reason any of us like the classic look is because it brings back some nostalgia from our old Graalian days.

Oh so wrong...

Minoc 11-18-2005 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
actuallly, i made them with it in mind, i doubt they're exact :D

You mean recoloured them..

napo_p2p 11-18-2005 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Minoc
You mean recoloured them..

O snaps!

Pixel to pixel match.

excaliber7388 11-18-2005 10:00 PM

all i did was recolour (great now you made me spell color worng :p) the new flower to look like the old one =D srry, im just trying to mix the old and new

Minoc 11-18-2005 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
all i did was recolour (great now you made me spell color worng :p) the new flower to look like the old one =D srry, im just trying to mix the old and new

Next time don't claim you just had the old tiles "in mind".
By the way, Colour is the British variant of Color, I didn't misspell it.


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