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bahamutstevetff 10-01-2005 09:22 PM

im steve btw, raeiphon, plz call me IXI

someonesomewhere 10-01-2005 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm
Event Sword is a chilling idea just in title. IMHO, that was the downfall of G2K2/Kingdoms - a dearth of "rare" and "unique" weapons that a select few accounts would have for life and everyone else would forever be in the shadow of.
If it is to be given rarely to event winners, then let it be a limited time offer. Perhaps they get a more godly version of the mundane weapon for a month. Mitigate your damages.

Most of the people here don't know what those words mean. But hey, I could've figured that out in 5th grade.
But what you fail to see is that 1 month ago, only 4 people had Red Pistols. Now 12 people have them. There is an over-usage, IMHO, of event items. A month-long period would be fine, that way a person wouldn't be able to lame forever. (Remember the good old days when Storm was the only one who used Reapers, which were the only Event item? Now event items are pretty much worthless, because so many people have them. I frankly couldn't give a crap If I didn't have my Red Pistols anymore.)

Wind_Master 10-02-2005 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by someonesomewhere
Most of the people here don't know what those words mean. But hey, I could've figured that out in 5th grade.
But what you fail to see is that 1 month ago, only 4 people had Red Pistols. Now 12 people have them. There is an over-usage, IMHO, of event items. A month-long period would be fine, that way a person wouldn't be able to lame forever. (Remember the good old days when Storm was the only one who used Reapers, which were the only Event item? Now event items are pretty much worthless, because so many people have them. I frankly couldn't give a crap If I didn't have my Red Pistols anymore.)

Ya. When me storm and that other dude had them it was fun. Now if you get the event items its like "Wow! I finnaly got them but so do 30 other people".

bahamutstevetff 10-02-2005 06:32 AM

the noventy of event items is wearing off, maybe they could go up for sale

anubis_wing 10-02-2005 04:10 PM

Storm has red pistoles now so yeah it might get dangerous me thinks it should only show kills of 400 or more on the rps/reapers/ or blue pistoles list so you don't got like 10 ppl on there.

Wind_Master 10-02-2005 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing
Storm has red pistoles now so yeah it might get dangerous me thinks it should only show kills of 400 or more on the rps/reapers/ or blue pistoles list so you don't got like 10 ppl on there.

Thats stupid. I dont really play that much so I would never be able to be on the list and show I have them.

Huwajux 10-02-2005 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
Thats stupid. I dont really play that much so I would never be able to be on the list and show I have them.

Then that's your fault for not playing enough.

Wind_Master 10-02-2005 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux
Then that's your fault for not playing enough.


Im not gunna play for 6 hours or so just to get on a list.

By the time I do that 30 people will be on the list....

Huwajux 10-02-2005 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
Im not gunna play for 6 hours or so just to get on a list.

By the time I do that 30 people will be on the list....

6 hours? That's a ridiculous amount of time. I thought you had "Amazing Skill". Surely it would take the great Jin around 10 minutes to get on the list.

SayianOozaru 10-02-2005 08:17 PM

No Flaming >:o

bahamutstevetff 10-02-2005 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux
6 hours? That's a ridiculous amount of time. I thought you had "Amazing Skill". Surely it would take the great Jin around 10 minutes to get on the list.

rolf

Tyhm 10-02-2005 09:20 PM

Limiting an overpowered weapon to "Just" 3 people or "Just" 12 people doesn't negate the fact that as I go about my own business I suddenly go down in a hail of money because some 1337 sparrer was exercising his right to PK with his even 13374|2 weapon. Sure, he can have a better skin for it, but when he does far and away more damage faster with less penalties and/or vulnerabilities, it's a problem.
Blocking shots is a good idea, mind, just not with an "average" powerful sword. Look in other games - the Defender is a weak attack, high defense weapon. Not an average attack, high defense weapon only available to certain people.

Wind_Master 10-02-2005 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux
6 hours? That's a ridiculous amount of time. I thought you had "Amazing Skill". Surely it would take the great Jin around 10 minutes to get on the list.

If I were to vs someone with your skill than ya id own them 400 times in 10 min.

jkool666 10-02-2005 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raeiphon
He means that having uber powerful event or "custom items" ruins servers, and it damn well does. bluepistole and redpistole do as much as a blue rifle, have fast moving bullets and are availible in all classes after you've won them. Steve's been training me with the appierces (and i'm sure as hell getting better - i won my first ever DM sparring agaisnt a 5 or so strafers, and 2 or so appierce sparrers. thanks to steve, he's a fricking awesome teacher xD), and compared to the blue/redpistole, the technique is the same but the damage is huge. He can take half off me before I can plant a single shot into him. Its a easily adaptable skill aswell.

And having a muramasa that blocks shots? A event weapon? Way too unfair. You'd have to make 1 event weapon availible to everyone else (as we have enough event weps alredy), or make plasmasabre deflect shots on every stage.

Translation: I don't have red/bluepistols so they are cheap! If you had them you wouldn't say any of that so errm shut up...

bahamutstevetff 10-02-2005 10:48 PM

whats the point in winning a weapon if it dont give u a better chance of winning

someonesomewhere 10-02-2005 11:01 PM

Appirces>Red Pistols.
The way RP shoots is too warped. It leaves a huge gap in the middle of the fire pattern. And the event weapons on Zone so far aren't cheap; they're just different.

anubis_wing 10-02-2005 11:18 PM

And besides if you won't use em whats the point of having them if your not going to get over 400 kills then whats the point of having them......

Tyhm 10-03-2005 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff
whats the point in winning a weapon if it dont give u a better chance of winning

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing
And besides if you won't use em whats the point of having them if your not going to get over 400 kills then whats the point of having them......

Oh, how I hope the two of you are being sarcastic...

Look, the math on this is really simple.
Let's pretend Zone has 100 people on, and it's the same 100 people 24/7. Just to make the math easier. If you like I'll do it again with different numbers.
Let's say one person out of the 100 Zonites has this double light saber that deflects bullets. And the other 99 all have guns that have become useless. This one Champion with his Appropriately Powered Weapon that "give u a better chance of winning" and lets you "get over 400 kills" easily chops through the 99 losers with guns. One person has fun, 99 people don't have fun. Do you get what I'm saying?

Oh, but the 99 people have a snowball's chance in hell of taking the weapon? Well that changes everything! Now of the 99 people, one's an awesome marksman who finds a freak of tiling somewhere on the server where he can snipe the Champion repeatedly while his back's turned and he steals the sword. Now he's having fun, the 98 people uninvolved still aren't having fun, and the former Champion used to be having fun but not anymore.

Think I'm reading too much into it? Well, when's the last time you played Kingdoms? And if I'm wrong on that, what rings and weapons do you have on it?

Huwajux 10-03-2005 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
If I were to vs someone with your skill than ya id own them 400 times in 10 min.

You overestimate yourself and underestimate me. Ignorant, arrogant, foolish boy.
On a lighter note, I have to admit the event weapons are seriously half-arsed/thought out ideas (Except reapers and lavagun :)). The red and blue pistoles were exciting to look forward to, then we figured it out that they are just hyped up overpowered lame machines, resembling ap pirces (Red pistoles) and ap rippers (Blue pistoles). When only reapers were around, I used to dream of being on it's board, now I don't give a crap if I'm on the Red pistoles board. In fact I am actually ashamed to be on it! Event weapons used to be a sign of a skilled player. Now I see people who I have never heard of walking around with event items.

bahamutstevetff 10-03-2005 08:10 PM

i love having bluepistols, iono why ppl dont like em, its silly,if u win em, use em with joy

Huwajux 10-03-2005 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff
i love having bluepistols, iono why ppl dont like em, its silly,if u win em, use em with joy

If you win them, o gee wow! It's incredibly easy to gain them. I play fairly, I don't use laming event weapons to gain an advantage otherwise it sucks the soul and life out of the game.

Wind_Master 10-03-2005 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux
If you win them, o gee wow! It's incredibly easy to gain them. I play fairly, I don't use laming event weapons to gain an advantage otherwise it sucks the soul and life out of the game.

I agree.When I won reapers (way back when only storm had them) it was so cool. I could show-off and say YES!!! I WON THEM!. Now I can say big whoop newbs are winning them now. DONT HAVE ANY MORE EVENTS PLEASE!

anubis_wing 10-04-2005 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
I agree.When I won reapers (way back when only storm had them) it was so cool. I could show-off and say YES!!! I WON THEM!. Now I can say big whoop newbs are winning them now. DONT HAVE ANY MORE EVENTS PLEASE!

I agree with jin maybe have em like every month now.

Wind_Master 10-04-2005 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing
I agree with jin maybe have em like every month now.

Ya. Their also should be more events for money and jetpacks instead of just haveing rp, bp and reapers.

Tyhm 10-04-2005 04:24 AM

:rolleyes: Yes, it's wonderful having an overpowered weapon! You should enjoy it, uh huh! Use it with pride against people who don't! If only there were less people that had it, all would be well! For those of us who have it anyway! Stop giving it to other people, so our exclusive club of nigh-invincibility will be that much more prestigious!

If anyone listens to you, Zone dies. Don't think it hasn't happened before.

Wind_Master 10-04-2005 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm
:rolleyes: Yes, it's wonderful having an overpowered weapon! You should enjoy it, uh huh! Use it with pride against people who don't! If only there were less people that had it, all would be well! For those of us who have it anyway! Stop giving it to other people, so our exclusive club of nigh-invincibility will be that much more prestigious!

If anyone listens to you, Zone dies. Don't think it hasn't happened before.

If 20 people have a overpowered gun as you call it, why would you even care if you had it or not? Getting a item like rp,bp,or reapers is for bragging rights. Few people use these weapons in everyday situations.

bahamutstevetff 10-04-2005 06:54 AM

i use blue pistols all the time there great

Tyhm 10-04-2005 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff
i use blue pistols all the time there great

Prosecution rests.

Raeiphon 10-04-2005 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jkool666
Translation: I don't have red/bluepistols so they are cheap! If you had them you wouldn't say any of that so errm shut up...

Not at all kind sir.

Read my signature. I state appierces should be made illegal. Why? Simply because they're fricking awesome weapons, and are the best on zone if used with skill.

And rp,bp arent any cheaper than any other weapons on zone. Excluding handgun of course.

Huwajux 10-04-2005 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm
Prosecution rests.

Man it's like they are working "With" you instead of "Agaisnt" you. :cool:

bahamutstevetff 10-04-2005 08:33 PM

imc i still love my bps lol

Huwajux 10-04-2005 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff
imc i still love my bps lol

*Sigh*

Wind_Master 10-04-2005 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Raeiphon
Not at all kind sir.

Read my signature. I state appierces should be made illegal. Why? Simply because they're fricking awesome weapons, and are the best on zone if used with skill.

And rp,bp arent any cheaper than any other weapons on zone. Excluding handgun of course.

g18 is cheap as well.

jkool666 10-04-2005 11:36 PM

G18 isn't cheap at all -_-. Any gun that can beat appirces from time to time is considered cheap... But honestly try going g18 vs appirces and see the outcome... Its nearly impossible to get them in ur fire (so they won't move) and if your not using them cheaply (rapid fire) and just shooting single fire its even more impossible.

Wind_Master 10-05-2005 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666
G18 isn't cheap at all -_-. Any gun that can beat appirces from time to time is considered cheap... But honestly try going g18 vs appirces and see the outcome... Its nearly impossible to get them in ur fire (so they won't move) and if your not using them cheaply (rapid fire) and just shooting single fire its even more impossible.

g18 is cheap. Not because once you shoot you're stuck and preety much dead but because it does 13 a bullet (well atleast against me it does). It fires way to fast and way to rapidly.

g18 isnt cheap because of the class speed (beside scout).

appirces are cheap because of the spread and the up-close range damage.

appirces are not cheap because they are very predictable and do low damage far range.

Huwajux 10-05-2005 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
g18 is cheap. Not because once you shoot you're stuck and preety much dead but because it does 13 a bullet (well atleast against me it does). It fires way to fast and way to rapidly.

g18 isnt cheap because of the class speed (beside scout).

appirces are cheap because of the spread and the up-close range damage.

appirces are not cheap because they are very predictable and do low damage far range.

Have you tried fighting with a g18 in the style of Ap pirces? Beleive it or not it is actually better, seeing as you have that choice to use continuose rapid fire whenever you wish.

Mark Sir Link 10-07-2005 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
If 20 people have a overpowered gun as you call it, why would you even care if you had it or not? Getting a item like rp,bp,or reapers is for bragging rights. Few people use these weapons in everyday situations.

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Akoalin 10-07-2005 02:31 AM

In a way, all the dualies are cheap ._o

Wind_Master 10-07-2005 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Akoalin
In a way, all the dualies are cheap ._o

Yes I agree.

anubis_wing 10-07-2005 11:48 AM

Ok back to the sword who wants it to be added?


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