Oh.. i just loged in and noticed it ran out 2 days ago :redface: Anyway im done for VIP + Gold for now i've purchased 7+ subscriptions and im not paying 25$ for a new client with hardly any significant diferances

These aren't significant?

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...play.php?f=140

Version4 is alot different, and much improved in my opinion.

v4 is created from scratch in a whole new programming language, and is more likely than not the most 'new' graal release ever.

Why do people keep saying this? It's wrong.

Maybe it is because people think they know everything.
Or it could be because I hate people.



http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...aal/pissed.gif <Why do people cook bacon on the backs of emoticons? It hurts them.

It is rewritten from scratch, in C++

I'm still confused why you went back to Delphi; Graal v3 seemed perfectly fine to me, but since I don't know the specifics, I guess I'm missing something. To me there seemed to be much more problems with v4 than with v3 (especially fonts - and I don't think Bitmap fonts are a step into the right direction).
Again, I might just be missing something there, but it'd be nice to know.

All you need to understand is that C++ makes it more portable and should make the game generally faster.

If there are things missing in V4, things like that tend to happen when there is a complete rewrite. It will take time for ALL of the features from previus versions to make their way back in.

I can't use v4 since I'm not VIP (and don't plan to be; why pay money to be a beta tester?) but if you don't notice performance boosts, then at least you should once Stefan works all the wrinkles out of the code. :p

But you are using some Delphi stuff in it too, are you not?

So the whole v4 client would then not be totally rewritten from scratch in C++ (though most of it would be).

I am just arguing semantics here.

In Graal v4 the interface is written in Delphi. Advantages:
- More compatible - people that use v2 will not have problems with v4
- External playerlist and option window (it might be possible sometime to allow scripted external windows but this will take time).

I think the point that Fry is getting at is that moving back to Delphi was a bad idea.
Graal 3 has always been so much faster for me, and Graal 4 just doesn't perform as well.

The other thing with Graal 4 is the lack of OpenGL. What happened to that?

He said the interface was written in delphi, not the game engine itself (which should be as fast as 3.0)

Well, yes, I guess not having to fight with the Windows API to integrate external windows is a good reason. Okay. But why were there such big problems with TTF that Bitmap fonts needed to be used? Did Torque or v3 display Bitmap fonts too?

Should, yes, but isn't; I don't think DDraw7 was such a good choice. But lets wait until it's finished.

Same for me, i don't know why though. Everytime i spar i have people complaining about how bag i lag, but i never used to lag before. It could just be my computer. x_x

v4 seems to have UDP problems, so try disabling UDP (in general options)

Hmm, so v4 has the internal (GS2) and external (Delphi) GUIs, I think it was a good idea to do this. Much better to have the playerlist outside the Graal window. Also like the new GS2 GUI theme.

Also I would like if you could somehow add more advanced features to the NPCServer, like some type of extended connection for people with the rights that would have more options than the normal NC, that would allow you to take things a step further in how the NPCServer operates, make it unique to the server.
I hope i'm making sense.

I disabled that right after the first time i downloaded V4. x_x

So, when is the OSX version going to come out (or if it has already been released)?

This?
http://www.graalonline.com/downloads/Graal4Setup.dmg.gz

Does this come included with RC? I'm not on my mac right now to look

I think v4 was completely redone in C++, no more Delphi :P

The last I saw of Graal v4 for Apple/Mac was yesterday when Stefan was testing it. So I'm guessing it will be released soon.

It was ;)

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=61843

yay!
 

Hoorah for graal on mac.
My brother just updated to gold just to check out g4, i like it. Now all the emoticons can be used and when commands are bound to buttons they actually work 'omg'. So looking good as of now, plus many annoying bugs from the last client are gone with the new engine such as crashing from certain masses and weapons saving even when told to destroy;.
YAY!!
Can't wait till i can use it on my classic account and anticipate an RC for mac which has the functionality of the pc rc.

But as of now, looking good, and I think it may have bought my brother back to the game.

Good Job

Anyone having problems to install V4 beside me ?

What OS? I know there have been some issues with Mac (just regarding bad configuration).

What problem are you having?

I can't read the message because it shows fast, when I open the executable it says something like 'Scanning folder structure' then my computer crashs. I'm on win98.

Unsticky please? (along with the New Support Center thread, read my last post there)