Ah, I remember those days. Anyway, thank's for answering my question. Just because a player 'scammed' another player while they were in that kingdom, doesn't mean they'll do it again. If this player was to join another kingdom, the kingdom they were in before should bring this up to the leader of the kingdom they are currently in. If nothing is resolved, a certain event should occour.

So, you're not going to act on it with the RP Team. That's fine. I'm happy with that responce.

Kefkin was on tag. That's now an RP matter. Not OOC.

Round and round we go, where it stops, nobody knows!

And just because they scammed someone once doesn't mean they won't do it again either. This is why people have police records in real life, so someone can make a decision on whether or not they should trust a person. "Hey! This guy likes to steal! Let's make him the guard for the Hope Diamond!"

Sir, these words that you have put here inside of my mouth, they are not mine (and they taste horrible). I never said I wasn't going to act on it with the RP Team, I simply stated that as a player, I'm free to come to the forums and express my concerns without it automatically being assumed that I'm speaking officially for the RP Team.

If everyone was in-character while they were on tag, oh what a wonderful place this would be. But you know as well as I do that it's hardly the reality. Perhaps if he was insulting him in a manner befitting the Drow, that could be considered in-character, but simply spewing insults for the heck of it? That's not RPing.

Since you left? Um, that was very recently.
And that's just Kefkin trying to say "LOOK, I REMOVED SOMEONE WHO IS ENFORCING BAD PROMOTION REQUIREMENTS! THAT MEANS MY ROLEPLAYING IS LEGITIMATE, VALID, AND HIGH-QUALITY NOW!11". (Too bad it doesn't actually work that way.)

Yes, because you are the all knowing!

Actually, the Emperor is to leave a Viceroy in charge of the colony - guess what? That Viceroy aint me.

Or you're supporting it because you're being bribed to do so.

Andrew, I have to say that your sudden change is quite interesting to me. Everytime I read another post blindly defending BO, or trying to force half-baked ideas into the masses, I can only be reminded of another Andrew who was equally as naive, zealous, and all too often ill-informed. The only debatable area is on whether Graynt is Warren or the First; I'd lean towards the former: I don't think Drow employ preachers.

Actually, this seems doubtful. If this were the case then more than one member of the RP team would have been approached with an offer, and they would have told us about it.

Or maybe it already has to a point. I believe that Andrew's sudden opinion shift of being anti-Graynt to becoming pro-BO and at least tolerant of Graynt is suspicious.

Andrew isn't on the RP Team anymore. And yes, if there was anything like that going on, we'd make it clear as to who made such an offer. That kind of behavior would be rediculous for a multitude of reasons.

well did somebody ask him who got kicked out for saying that the members needed to get them items!?!?!?!?

You really aren't follwoing this at all, huh?

Why do people think the following:
I've been bribed by Kefkin?
I've been in Bel'la O'?
I've been in Zormite, if you want to think Zormite is Bel'la O', that's fine. I'm happy with that. I left the RP Team because I wasn't interested anymore, I also left becuase of something else. I don't wish to state it here.
Just drop the subject, Bel'la O' is a kingdom. Live with it.

Kingdoms are supposed to be RP and nothing less than that. I don't see any RP coming out of BO (other than the infamous "LOL I RUL TEH WERLD" bull****), only storylines.

well maybe if the other kingdom asses would RP, we would go alongh with it, we cant do this **** alone, when somebody says "Hello, how are you today dude" and the other person says "**** dude, your a dumb ass and i dont even want to look at you" how are we supposed to go on and RP more with them, its stupid how people do this!

Quite the opposite -
The Bel'la Olplyn are the only ones not really going into roleplaying right now. The other kingdoms TRIED to roleplay with the Drows, other kingdoms TRIED to interact with the Drows but it always ends with those kingdoms just talking to thin air or with fairly idiotic persons.

Yeah, when we invaded Bel'la Olplyn, we just ended up hanging out in the castle, then Etien showed up and I chased him around the island for a while.

Trust me, we've tried. BO won't accept any roleplaying unless it's 100% beneficial to them and nobody else.


And Andrew, stop with your futile attempts to take attention off of BO and on Dustari. Dustari is just a bit inactive right now, but Drk's been seen on more lately. BO is 83921759812375981273521937589216598215 times worse. Which is kind of why it has a lot of (negative) attention on it right now. *waits for Etien to misquote me and say "LOOLOL POSITIVV ATENSHON!!!1 DAT MEENZ I RUL WERLD NOW"*

I R THE RULEST

O NOEZ!!!!!!11111 WTF I R RULIER TEHN TEH RULEST

I HVAE 51 PERCENTS OF WERLD STOK!!!1nocaps

OMGWTFF ITZ CONTERFIT!!!!!!!!!1111111
i R HAEV 99.99999999999%!111111111 OF WELRD STOcK

NO U R

We better shut up or we're going to get this thread closed.

Yes, I agree

Right, so I PMed Stefan just now saying "HEY PAISANO! IT'S THE SUPER DROW PWNING SHOW!" Then he PMed me back saying ":)".

It's the best sign we've had all month.

Do the Drow-io!
Swing your fid, from side to side.
Come on it's time to go, do the Drow-io!

Do one scam, and then again
Come on it's time to go, do the Drow-io!

Juuuust like thaaaat!

Yo, yo!
It's the Zormitian Brothers and swimmin's their game
Landed at the island that shared their kingdom's name
Lend Zurkiba a hand in the Zormite land
Gettin' ready for some fights, you'll be hooked on the Zormites. Now.

The evil Vhearun and his Drow are up to misbehavin'
They took over the castle, Zormite island needs savin'
Scammin' and slammin' everybody they can pin
The time is here to take down Bel'la Olplyn! Unh!

Both of you just made me cry tears of joy.

I thought the RP Team treated each kingdom the same, you seem to hold a personal vendetta against it. Why?
Same question for you Butz.

Treat each kingdom the same is different from viewing each kingdom the same. Neither Draenin nor Butz has taken any action at all against any kingdom, so they've treated them all equally. They just view them differently.

You don't see the 'secret' forums, Googi.

Yeah, okay. If you've got a problem with what Draenin posts in the secret forums, then take it up with him in the secret forums.

A personal vendetta? Hardly.
I have nothing against Kefkin at all, as he's most of the time an easy person to talk to.
A personal vendetta would more likely be described as the problem you have with Drk and Fr0chin, which you extend to Dustari as a whole.

Omg 004-ndrew

I am not lenient towards kingdom leaders who have been given dozens of chances to improve their own kingdom and yet refuse to act on any of them because of either stubbornness or flat-out stupidity. In my book, there's no more excuses for Bel'la Olplyn. They've blown all the chances I've given them, so yeah. They don't deserve my pity. Either shape up or get out. I don't care which. What's going on in that kingdom right now is purely ridiculous.

Like Shawn said, Kefkin's a nice guy. I think that he just makes very very poor decisions.

That's why they're secret ;)

But I know what's on the 'secret' forums and I know that they're all valid reasonings to why they need to remove an inactive person from leadership.

Inactive, nah.
All the RP Team have concentrated on is Bel'la O'.
Draenin, we all know how much you hate it.
Hell, I've even got the logs to prove it.

What about Samurai? Do you see activity there?
Same question for Dustari, Forest, Pirates.
I don't hold a grudge on the kingdom 'Dustari', I admit, I don't like Fr0 or Drk.
My reasons for me hating these 2 individuals are simply obvious.

Well why did the founders of America decide to write the Declaration of Independence First? Why not the Consitution or the various articles that define how the government works. How come the President wasn't elected before the Declaration of Indepenedence was signed? Or hell, why not just do it all at one time?

ANSWER: Because you have to start somewhere.

Legitimate "activity" (the kind that's needed) is not adding more ranks than they have members and recruiting RP-illiterate newbies (as in they just started playing GK).
All of those kingdoms are doing way better than Bel'la. Sure, they have problems, but BO's flaws have accumulated to a ridiculous point and they neglect every chance they're given to correct their problems.

:rolleyes:

Luigi: :rolleyes:
What exactly are their problems? Lack of taking bull****? :rolleyes:

A lot of problems

Faulty leadership
Destruction of age old traditions
Inactivity
Abuse of power
Communal decay of Graal Kingdoms

The question is - what aren't their problems.