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Kaimetsu 03-27-2005 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jake13jake
Kai, the reason I don't count gscript as a credible programming language is because I don't give it a great deal of credibility.

So what is your definition of 'scripting language'?

protagonist 03-27-2005 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
So what is your definition of 'scripting language'?

Truthfully, Gscript is not an independant protocol, and can't really be considered a scripting language so much as a branch of one (C/C++ I guess, since that's what Graal is coded in now and the structure; particularly the GUI functions are very C/C++ish).

Though, Graal could be considered an environment, as PHP servers serve as an environment for PHP. Still, I would almost call Gscript1/2 too user friendly to be an actual language, in the sense that it doesn't have the same range of functions which other languages have. It's iffy; kind of like calling VB a real language.

Kaimetsu 03-27-2005 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
Truthfully, Gscript is not an independant protocol

What a thoroughly meaningless statement. GScript never claimed to be a "protocol".

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can't really be considered a scripting language so much as a branch of one (C/C++ I guess
If you think that C is a scripting language then you clearly don't know how the term is defined.

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It's iffy; kind of like calling VB a real language.
There is nothing "iffy" about that designation.

protagonist 03-27-2005 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
What a thoroughly meaningless statement. GScript never claimed to be a "protocol".

I meant to say that Graal isn't a protocal that makes GScript independant. Whoops.

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If you think that C is a scripting language then you clearly don't know how the term is defined.

It's a coding language, I guess. Misspoke.

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There is nothing "iffy" about that designation.

Dude, I consider languages to be things that you actually have to understand to pick up. And by understand, I mean the nitty-gritty, core mechanics of the engine and so-forth. Sure, everything boils down to binary, but that's irrelevant. There are just some reasonable boundaries to draw: you can not write an executable Gscript, and you can not make Gscript perform outside of the Graal engine unless you write a program which uses it as a scripting program. It does not sustain itself outside of its environment.

Kaimetsu 03-27-2005 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
I meant to say that Graal isn't a protocal that makes GScript independant

Even still, I think "protocol" is misused.

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Dude, I consider languages to be things that you actually have to understand to pick up
Great. But that's not what the word means.

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There are just some reasonable boundaries to draw: you can not write an executable Gscript, and you can not make Gscript perform outside of the Graal engine
That's part of the definition of a scripting language. Doofus.

protagonist 03-27-2005 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

That's part of the definition of a scripting language. Doofus.

So what is the end goal of a scripting language?

Kaimetsu 03-27-2005 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
So what is the end goal of a scripting language?

To specify behaviour.

jake13jake 03-27-2005 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
So what is your definition of 'scripting language'?

Stop trolling Kai, I meant that I don't consider it a credible scripting language and you're just trying to irritate everyone today. hmpph! :spam:

protagonist 03-27-2005 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
To specify behaviour.

That's ambiguous. Is it widely useful? Shouldn't scripting languages be widely useful?

Kaimetsu 03-27-2005 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist
That's ambiguous. Is it widely useful? Shouldn't scripting languages be widely useful?

It's not part of the definition.

Lance 03-27-2005 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jake13jake
Stop trolling Kai, I meant that I don't consider it a credible scripting language and you're just trying to irritate everyone today. hmpph! :spam:

He's trolling because you made such an egregious error and he called you on it? That's interesting.


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