If I get banned for this, it is completely fine with me as I reached my goal here.

MOONIE! Do you have any logic in that thing that you call a brain!
Read my posts again and think about them this time!

GOD YOU REALLY BUG ME!

Loriel as a global was doing his job, by showing people the flaw.
He did make an attempt to contact Tux, it is not his fault Tux did not respond.

Sigh. And I eventually thought I just had the wrong UIN.
Not very handy to ignore my messages if you expect to be contacted about problems.

Look Loriel it is apperent that you did this because you wanted to prove a point and you did, I'm happy for you. In this case I dont really think you would need to be banned. But I do think its unfair had someone who is non global done this they would have been banned. I think graal as a whole needs to stop being so ban happy.

How do you know someone that does not have global rights would be banned?

I dunno, I assume they would.

Well, to go off-topic from this accusatory cavalcade for a moment, but perhaps remaining on-topic to the thread in general, I think this is a very nice addition. It'll add some nice options to formatting posts and perhaps conserve space as well.

Heh. Your sig makes nice use of the tags.

Loriel I see how you were trying to demonstrate how that feature could be abused yet your methods for doing so are flawed. In my opinion, you shouldn't be banned, but the rules aren't my opinion. Because of your actions you should be banned though.

Sir, you just contradicted yourself.

One less unstable corrupt/uncorrupt attitude global in the world?
Why else would it exist?
You've shown corruption more then once. Why not now?

Except showing the fact that he doesn't know how to use ICQ...

You know what? I give up. Just ban him already.

Oh?

Way to win an argument.

That's why I asked MagicalTux to add them, so I could align my signature like that. :p

Yes, you risking to be banned :frown:
No, I changed my password x_x

hehe, if we can't trust Loriel, why does he have global RC? ;)
Geez, I mean if we can't trust anyone we meet on the internet, then why do we have people with Global RC or Supermod powers? I mean, I haven't met them personally, and I doubt Unix or Stefan has... :rolleyes:

Good grief, if you're going to ban him for getting his point across in this, obviously, discussion-worthy method, do it. It'll just reveal you as a hypocrite. Good grief, if he was actually stealing passwords, he should definitely be banned. But, all he did was create something to definitively prove the security issue of the new feature.

I am done with this conversation, you talk in circles Loriel...and what you are saying here is different then what you said on AIM.

I will say this...if anyone EVER does something like this again, I dont care who it is, and I dont care what reason you have for doing so....I will not hesitate to ban them, let this be fair warning
"the people" did not need to see the flaw, only the person who can fix it needed to see it, and saying "I tried to contact so and so, but he ignored me" sounds like what the members said in the illegal threads that are removed all the time...I dont do double standards

What does that mean?

It means, that you dont get to do something that is against the rules just because you cant get ahold of the appropriate person right away, and do not ask me again what rule that you broke...go read the Graal rules

The appropriate person ignored my messages, Moonie.

Actually hold on a second. Doesnt Loriel get a warning first?

Why would I get a warning? No one is even able to show me a rule I broke.

Actually, those that fell for your trick broke a rule, because they gave out their password :p

Indeed.

And:
Moonie, stop discussing whether I am to be banned. Instead, you should contact a higher member of staff and calmly explain the situation.

Ha ha ha ha. This is great. Sadly I missed it 'cause I was in school.

Ha ha ha. :D *steps out*

Ok, Loriel...you are just acting like a little kid now....you did it, you got by with it, you had your fun, you proved your point....end of discussion

If you say he broke a rule, the burdon of proof is yours, not his. I say this merely because I am curious about which rule he broke, as well...

I am glad you agree with me :)

lol, so if there is no specific rule for what was done, it is ok?
You know, I am getting a really bad feeling about this.....

... shhh!

The feeling that you have finally realized you are wrong about something?
Even though you have been wrong a million times.

You act like I still care.

Way to make a bad judgement and not ban him.

Because he didn't know you were contacting him.
Read -> Comprehend -> Post
They were scammed into doing so. Scamming = illegal.

And since nobody can point a finger as to what rule he broke, I will. He (attempted anyway) to scam people of their accounts. I'm sure it's in the ToS, but I can't find it in the trainwreck of a website.

Well, you posted.

Calling a sheep's tail a leg does not make it one.

"And since nobody can point a finger as to what rule he broke...I can't either".

He did not try to scam anyone out of their accounts, as has been duly noted.

I'd trust loriel with my account, hell he has access to all of our gold accounts items and stuff >.>. I find it odd that Moonie is still staff, she is abbrahsive (Spelling?) to the community. I know loriels a decent guy and she should know that about her fellow.. staffers.. =\

Which rule did Loriel break?

People, nobody is arguing against a ban because of Loriel's position. They're arguing against a ban because there is no reason to administer a ban.

How has this prank revealed that Loriel is either corrupt or unstable?

I do not expect people to contact me via ICQ. You can mail and use forum PMs.

Note that my ICQ number isn't displayed anywhere on Graal...

Yeah, and that is my fault how?

But we talked on ICQ before.

No, there are still these catch-all clauses in the rules. I was just upset with your `` read the rules yourself to find out which one you broke '' attitude.

[QUOTE=Kaimetsu]Which rule did Loriel break?[QUOTE]

:\ Trying to steal passwords? I know Loriel wouldn't doing anything with it, it's the fact that he even tried to set it up in the first place.

Do you think anyone would of even thought of that? So why not just PM MagicalTux, it's not like you were in a big rush to save the community.

I usually do not assume that valid ICQ messages I sent just get ignored. I saw no need to send any PMs.

You sent them to an ICQ# which appears to be offline for months...

Where is this rule?