As a note i would like to say, that the Manager of Griffin came on Doomsday , and we discussed things, and he kindly unbanned me.
I hope some good will come from this, and perhaps thanks to the rules being drawn up, situations like this will not occur in the future.

So am I right or not? Playerworlds can use whatever graphics they like, except GK's, right...?

Pretty sure you're wrong, dawg, even if it hasn't been formally written up anywhere.

Gah, there were just some rules put up on these forums by Spark...you cant use other servers gfx

That doesn't seem fair. I don't care if they are to be PW specific or not, but it's graalonline's, not yours, you lose rights to grant "permission" to use them once uploaded, as they become property of Graal Online...

Re: Griffin
 

After fixing your grammer I would just like to point out that taking legal actions over events that happen in a game, continues to be the most empty threat ever made on graal. I'm amazed so many people still use it.

It's been settled. Graphics cannot be used without permission unless they are considered public domain such as graphics from Graal: The Adventure.

lol, welcome to life....

Anyway, what isthe big deal? If you want something make it yourself, or find someone who can make it (I know that is easier said then done)

Re: Hats.....
 

OMG.. u can accept stolen stuff when you have LordVyse working on your server. I heard he tryed out for some other server with UN levels, or something like that. :).. i warned Griffin about him, but they dont care, and yes i also saw the dice but i didnt think they would be dumb enough to put that on w/out permission. :).. Point is: Hire LordVyse.. Excpect stealing :).. Well thats what i hear atleast..
[Edit:Teehee im so late on this thread ^-^:Edit]

People should get permission before using others graphics. Simple, easy, and if they say no big deal. Make it yourself.
:D

Stop bringing back this thread. This should have been reported to the PWA. That's what we do.

**** Houdini. I pwn you.

Yeah, but the likelihood of servers listening to you is about even with the likelihood of all of the servers following the rules in the first place. ;)

That is uncalled for.

I'd just like to make a comment on the copyright issue. To copyright something you dont need to register it k?

Me possibly, but if "you" was referring to the PWA you're sorely misaken, however im not stupid and i recognize a childish quip trying to ruffle my feathers when i see it.

As for you Azreil - play nice.

Ah, my error for not specifying. By you, I meant you, Houdiniman.

You do unless you can prove ownership in a way that will be accepted by a court of law.

Nah, you don't need to register it to have the copyright. You only need to register the copyright if you are planning on taking legal action.

That's what I was talking about. If your work has no registered copyright, and someone steals it and you sue, you have to prove to the court that you produced the work first. In the case of music, usually one mails a physical copy (CD or tape) of the work and the musical notation (if possible) to themselves. The postmarked date is admissible as evidence in a court of law. Registering for a copyright saves you the trouble of having to do this, but it is expensive.

I wish you people would stop acting like you know so much about this, Kai already explained copyrights, trademarks and such, why do we have to go over it again.

You're the one who brought it up and started "acting like you knew so much about it", genius.

As a musician and composer, I have to know about copyrights in order to protect my intellectual property.

Tseng, I know for a fact you don't have to register a copyright, that is a patent.

Uh, dude. I never said you had to, only for court cases. Here's some info for ya, straight from the U.S. Copyright Office.:

Well, all i'm saying is content made for this game doesn't need to be registered because GraalOnline has its one register on all content made for the playerworlds. So if someone "copyrights" certian images etc., for a playerworld, they cannot be used on another.

No, you're not saying that, or at least you weren't. You're changing your story to attempt to not look foolish.

You said copyrights do not need to be registered anywhere - blanket statement. Then, when Pickles and I disagreed, citing that in order to file a lawsuit you would need to register your copyright, you told us they did not know what they were talking about.

And, lawsuits related to graal graphics are moot, since they are not the legal property of any of us, only Stefan's. While the in-game rules may limit what servers can use them, one server cannot claim court-of-law legal ownership of a graphic, only in-game "ownership" of a graphic.

And, do you have any idea what you are talking about? "One register on all content made by playerworlds"? Do you realize the impossibility of this statement?

All content sumited to GraalOnline is theres right? So that must mean all of it is copyrighted.

That copyright rule.... erm law actually that Graal has needs to be updated.

They need to specify now about the new servers and such, there is too much confusion.

Anyway, lets just drop this, and wait for the code to be updated

Uh, do you know the difference between "copyright" and "registered copyright"? You must register something with the copyright office to have a registered copyright. You can't register all the things you will be making, before they're made. Again, your words were "registered copyright" and not merely "copyright". Make up your mind about what it is you're trying to say.

I'm a confusing person.:grin:

I noticed. :)

I think everyone on the forums did now. :)

I think it's good that they keep the same policy regarding all work uploaded to the payed servers is still their property, it will save them many headaches and is a good contract term to avoid players who try to take legal action over silly things.