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iniquitus 05-28-2002 06:54 AM

:rolleyes:

Milkdude99 05-28-2002 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
This is bullshit.

We sit here for months, reviewing playerworlds and the sort, progress a little, don't get the tools that we need, and YOU do. You just walk in and take things over. If Crono had the things you did, he probably would've thought better of himself. He was great, and he was easy to get a hold of. You're just like a mouse running from a cat when people try to ask you questions.

I don't care how many people you've "helped," you've done it because you had the tools that we did not get when we asked for them.

These are the things that are long overdue in being addressed so give this a chance and now maybe they will....Note: Nemesis will not be working alone....

Milkdude99 05-28-2002 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by iniquitus
:rolleyes:
I agree like he really needed to post that...:rolleyes:

SavantMiles 05-28-2002 07:06 AM

see nemesis was always nice to me, always helped me out so i dont know why you people dont lay off and cut him some slack.

Torankusu 05-28-2002 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by SavantMiles
see nemesis was always nice to me, always helped me out so i dont know why you people dont lay off and cut him some slack.
maybe because he doesn't stop and talk to people about things. Mainly the people he should've been working with.

zell12 05-28-2002 07:17 AM

I wouldn't mind help with Fixing Mithica up =) But not from you Nemesis. You come in here with all this Global RC crap and all your little tools, and Psyker and Crono were there for a long time with nothing. It took a few days to contact Stefan... mabey a week to contact Unixmad. I think Psyker should be in charge, and you work with, or UNDER him. :o

Torankusu 05-28-2002 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
I wouldn't mind help with Fixing Mithica up =) But not from you Nemesis. You come in here with all this Global RC crap and all your little tools, and Psyker and Crono were there for a long time with nothing. It took a few days to contact Stefan... mabey a week to contact Unixmad. I think Psyker should be in charge, and you work with, or UNDER him. :o
Well, it appears I'm going to be looking for a job. What is it you need to do?

iniquitus 05-28-2002 07:22 AM

Stop makeing stupid attacks at Nemesis. It's not like Nemesis appointed himself, this is something Unixmad and Stefan asked him to do. It's also Stefan and Unixmad who didn't give Psyker and Crono the tools, not Nemesis, so quit your complaining. :rolleyes:

Honestly, it doesn't matter who got the job here, because you'd attack that person anyway. :mad:

Why don't you people think before you post. :o

Urizen :rolleyes:

Frolic_RC2 05-28-2002 07:23 AM

Well, PW peoples, I remember that post where Stefan offered you guys all the tools and you guys declined, saying it wasn't needed. Just give Nemesis a little chance, I didn't like the idea at first but it might turn out for the best.

Torankusu 05-28-2002 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by iniquitus
Stop makeing stupid attacks at Nemesis. It's not like Nemesis appointed himself, this is something Unixmad and Stefan asked him to do. It's also Stefan and Unixmad who didn't give Psyker and Crono the tools, not Nemesis, so quit your complaining. :rolleyes:

Honestly, it doesn't matter who got the job here, because you'd attack that person anyway. :mad:

Why don't you people think before you post. :o

Urizen :rolleyes:

You know, maybe I would, but if it were Crono or Psyker that had got this thing, I'd be happy.

Torankusu 05-28-2002 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by Frolic_RC2
Well, PW peoples, I remember that post where Stefan offered you guys all the tools and you guys declined, saying it wasn't needed. Just give Nemesis a little chance, I didn't like the idea at first but it might turn out for the best.
We said level one global. All he said after that was "it'll be possible when the staff= system is introduced. It's been out for quite some time, and even then, we got nothing.

Frolic_RC2 05-28-2002 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
You know, maybe I would, but if it were Crono or Psyker that had got this thing, I'd be happy.
Yeah I probably would to, because they are alot more deserving of it, but what we can't change we might as well accept and look for the good out of it.

iniquitus 05-28-2002 07:26 AM

Well thats not what Unixmad and Stefan decided, so thats life :(

Urizen :(

Frolic_RC2 05-28-2002 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
We said level one global. All he said after that was "it'll be possible when the staff= system is introduced. It's been out for quite some time, and even then, we got nothing.
Oh...well in that case he should just give you all globals, how does he expect the PW inspecters to inspect without the power to go into what the PW owners are hiding? (yeah it is kinda sad, but I'm sure they DO hide things from you guys when they see you on).

WHIPENIE4 05-28-2002 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nemisis
Exactly what I was planning. THere will be a forum section for owners only to place all their ideas and I will personally deal with them.

All their concerns, problems will all go to me, then I will get them executed. If I cannot, I will try and thats what matters. Trying to execute what they need. Rather than saying no.

Thank you Urizen for bringing some key thoughts to the this thread =D it needed it
What about Co-Owners?

Torankusu 05-28-2002 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by Frolic_RC2


Oh...well in that case he should just give you all globals, how does he expect the PW inspecters to inspect without the power to go into what the PW owners are hiding? (yeah it is kinda sad, but I'm sure they DO hide things from you guys when they see you on).

I'm aware. The one day I had RC on Unholy Nation, I had to delete an awful lot of bad images. ;\

Nemesis comes on and has my RC taken away when I had to log off for an hour.

Falcor 05-28-2002 07:41 AM

As long as nemi doesn't steal ideas from servers and give them to other servers to "help them out" and doesn't assume the position of owner on every server he logs onto then im fine.

SinNetherwind 05-28-2002 07:41 AM

NEMESIS OWNS ME

G_yoshi 05-28-2002 07:42 AM

Sounds like a good idea to me :)

Of course, I'll probably speak directly to Stefan more than Nemesis concerning "Project Facelift" :D

I still need to know what your final decision is, Stefan :/

G_yoshi 05-28-2002 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Falcor
As long as nemi doesn't steal ideas from servers and give them to other servers to "help them out" and doesn't assume the position of owner on every server he logs onto then im fine.
Tis why I rarely share my ideas and plans publicly :)

Milkdude99 05-28-2002 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by WHIPENIE4


What about Co-Owners?

It will include Co Owners

Milkdude99 05-28-2002 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
I wouldn't mind help with Fixing Mithica up =) But not from you Nemesis. You come in here with all this Global RC crap and all your little tools, and Psyker and Crono were there for a long time with nothing. It took a few days to contact Stefan... mabey a week to contact Unixmad. I think Psyker should be in charge, and you work with, or UNDER him. :o
Zell I talked to Unixmad for a hour today on many things including Nemesis.....and I am not a Global.

Nemesis 05-28-2002 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
I wouldn't mind help with Fixing Mithica up =) But not from you Nemesis. You come in here with all this Global RC crap and all your little tools, and Psyker and Crono were there for a long time with nothing. It took a few days to contact Stefan... mabey a week to contact Unixmad. I think Psyker should be in charge, and you work with, or UNDER him. :o
I have helped Mithica so much then someone does something and it was all blamed on me. Go figure. Anyhow nothing has even started to happen yet........

Nemesis 05-28-2002 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by Falcor
As long as nemi doesn't steal ideas from servers and give them to other servers to "help them out" and doesn't assume the position of owner on every server he logs onto then im fine.
That is not helping people out, thus I wouldn't do it because thats not the right thing to do. But I leave the "ideas" of the development aspect to the server owners and staff.

Milkdude99 05-28-2002 08:33 AM

If you guys would calm down and accept the changes , we all can progress on for the betterment of Graal , not just one server but ALL servers, after all this is what everyone wants is it not?For things to run smoothly and have a better and more "open" channel to Stefan and Unixmad? Communication is the key to success so let Nemesis setup the "key" and all Graal will profit from it.....

Darlene159 05-28-2002 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
If you guys would calm down and accept the changes , we all can progress on for the betterment of Graal , not just one server but ALL servers, after all this is what everyone wants is it not?For things to run smoothly and have a better and more "open" channel to Stefan and Unixmad? Communication is the key to success so let Nemesis setup the "key" and all Graal will profit from it.....

I agree, you people should calm down and give it a chance because its going to happen anyway.
Dont trash something before it even starts, as for the PW inspectors or whatever not getting the tools they need, that is not nemesis's fault, so why blame him?

royce 05-28-2002 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by iniquitus


Thats nice, do you have anything to say that actualy has a point? or do you just spend all your time saying how much "Grawl Sux" and all the staff are "C0rrupt" instead of actualy working to improve it.

Try offerring an alternitive if you don't agree with whats being done, but first, I'd give it a chance, and see how it works out. :rolleyes:

Urizen :(

Why give someone a chance that has been picked right out of the crowd, no experience, no nothing...

Proxy 05-28-2002 09:43 AM

Re: Changes to Staff
 
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Originally posted by Nemesis
As of right now things are looking to be changing for the better hopefully.

As everyone may or may not know, all of the graal servers have managers.

Graal2001 is managed by BirdBird and Kamuii (unless he left)
Graal2002 is managed by Stefan and Unixmad
Classic Graal is managed by Tyhm.

Playerworlds are now managed by myself. I will probably gain someone else to help me in the future. As of now I am settling in and trying to fix what needs to be done.

As for Playerworld Inspectors. They will stay around, but some of the staff within will change, and if new faces are wanted to help out they will be. Psyker will lead that group and report to me about anything so we can take care of it. Any problems with playerworlds, I will try my best to fix them in the best manner I can.

Those who think I haven't done anything, are absolutely wrong. I wasn't able to do anything, not I can actually do more and help out more. So please bear with me, and when you report a "corrupt" playerworld, please inform me and have supporting evidence, otherwise it is nothing but an opinion vs. another. Which leads to a lot of problems in the end. Hopefully you all can find me. I will be on all the servers atleast once or twice a week.

But I am on and up late so it isn't hard to find me. Hopefully everyone can accept this and start a new, for graal, not for themselves. We all try to benefit the game and I hope to benefit the game by making sure playerworlds are aware of the rules and know they can come to me if they need anything done with their playerworld. I am here to help. So there will be a playerworld owner only forum to keep incontact with my team so no one else can view and I can get the appropriate help to get the job done right. Thanks.


-Nemesis.

Know what Nem, the way you talk.. you scare me, reminds me WAY too much of the Anti-christ.

iniquitus 05-28-2002 10:06 AM

Re: Re: Changes to Staff
 
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Originally posted by Proxy


Know what Nem, the way you talk.. you scare me, reminds me WAY too much of the Anti-christ.

*Sigh*

Urizen :rolleyes:

GodSpeed 05-28-2002 10:36 AM

Re: Re: Changes to Staff
 
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Originally posted by Proxy


Know what Nem, the way you talk.. you scare me, reminds me WAY too much of the Anti-christ.

It isn't him, it is his siggy.
Nemmy please remove that "change is good" thing because it frightens the children, you will see how much better it makes it... a smaller sig would be nicer too ;D

Torankusu 05-28-2002 10:57 AM

Re: Re: Re: Changes to Staff
 
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Originally posted by GodSpeed


It isn't him, it is his siggy.
Nemmy please remove that "change is good" thing because it frightens the children, you will see how much better it makes it... a smaller sig would be nicer too ;D

Exactly.

"LET ME CHANGE EVERYTHING FOR YOU!!!"

royce 05-28-2002 11:20 AM

Re: Re: Re: Changes to Staff
 
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Originally posted by GodSpeed


It isn't him, it is his siggy.
Nemmy please remove that "change is good" thing because it frightens the children, you will see how much better it makes it... a smaller sig would be nicer too ;D

Are you sure Nemesis is a guy? In his sig, I believe thats a gurl's head. Am I mistaken?

Proxy 05-28-2002 11:24 AM

Re: Re: Re: Changes to Staff
 
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Originally posted by GodSpeed


It isn't him, it is his siggy.
Nemmy please remove that "change is good" thing because it frightens the children, you will see how much better it makes it... a smaller sig would be nicer too ;D

I think it's that combined with how he talks....
it's the whole confident anti-christ thing......
The whole "What you say does not matter... I know your future" with a casual smile deal.......

Like..... "Heh... do not worry so long as I am your leader nothing will harm you.... *evil yet casual smile*"

God.. it scares me x.x; lol

Proxy 05-28-2002 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Nemesis


If you do that then we will see. I will just have a talk with Unixmad.

But then again if you haven't noticed with the new system, you cannot ban a global, as Birdbird did when he banned contego, contego just got right back online. So anyhow. I rather not fight with you.

But if you are going to be immature about this, then be immature. It's sad when people are here to really help and help graal progress, people like you always have anger and attempt to bring it down saying "you can't help me!! I can help myself" anyhow. If it wasn't for them, that playerworld wouldn't be up on their servers. So you must respect their decision.

But obviously you will not, sad but it's how it is.....

My interpretation:
"No matter what you do to me.. it will be to no aveil for you see; I am your god now."

Interpretation is fun, k?

Shiftk03- 05-28-2002 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Proxy


My interpretation:
"No matter what you do to me.. it will be to no aveil for you see; I am your god now."

Interpretation is fun, k?

Do not worry about Proxy...Some times Kentucky can warp the minds of its children ;)

Nemesis 05-28-2002 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by royce

Why give someone a chance that has been picked right out of the crowd, no experience, no nothing...

No experience?

Ahem

I have been

Account Manager
Accounts Admin
and Assistant GM

I only stopped appearing on 2k1 and classic due to the fact that unixmad temporairly disabled all the globals and reduced them to level 1 RC. Thus whomever was left would get a job when he decided what he would do with staff.

Get your facts straight before you start complaining. I've been staff basically for all 2 years I've played graal. I've been on global almost a year now =/

Nemesis 05-28-2002 12:32 PM

Re: Re: Re: Changes to Staff
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GodSpeed


It isn't him, it is his siggy.
Nemmy please remove that "change is good" thing because it frightens the children, you will see how much better it makes it... a smaller sig would be nicer too ;D

Yeah I have been working on a small one. I'll remove

"Change is Good" since it scares people *looks around* lol

Well I thought it was a good size when I made it, but it doesn't fit to well I should just change the height.

TrueHeaT 05-28-2002 12:41 PM

Nemesis, I think you are a stupid bastard, a control freak, and a bad admin. Stop changing the rules and giving yourself more control over things.
Graal was good the way it was, where people from 2k1 with BRAINS held high admin jobs and everything ran great. I do not like the way you are making it harder for people like the admins of 2k1 to do anything, even though they are/were (2k2 is out) the staff of the main, prominent Graal server.

How the HELL did you ever get any positions at all?

I would love to never see you on this board again.

Frolic_RC2 05-28-2002 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Nemesis, I think you are a stupid bastard, a control freak, and a bad admin. Stop changing the rules and giving yourself more control over things.
Graal was good the way it was, where people from 2k1 with BRAINS held high admin jobs and everything ran great. I do not like the way you are making it harder for people like the admins of 2k1 to do anything, even though they are/were (2k2 is out) the staff of the main, prominent Graal server.

How the HELL did you ever get any positions at all?

I would love to never see you on this board again.

Wow you are dumb. You openly insult him? I'm going to do the same to you. I think you are an ignorant, unskillful, ****y piece of crap. The ONLY reason people seem to like your work is because of your "reputation", because from what I've seen of yours its all crap. You act like you know everything, yet you show you know nothing.

How the HELL did you ever get any positions at all?

I would love to never see you on this board again.

Nemesis 05-28-2002 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Nemesis, I think you are a stupid bastard, a control freak, and a bad admin. Stop changing the rules and giving yourself more control over things.
Graal was good the way it was, where people from 2k1 with BRAINS held high admin jobs and everything ran great. I do not like the way you are making it harder for people like the admins of 2k1 to do anything, even though they are/were (2k2 is out) the staff of the main, prominent Graal server.

How the HELL did you ever get any positions at all?

I would love to never see you on this board again.


Well then again. If you read.

P L A Y E R W O R L D S

not 2k1, 2k2, or Classic. Thus I do not work there, no have anything to do with the staff that is there. Once again you talk about brains, if you read then you would know. But yet you just post like you are some big shot. Anyhow.

Unixmad appointed the position , and if you let things happen maybe instead of being a hater of everything new that appears, you'd see graal has progressed. IT's not what it once was, it'll never be the same as it was.

You still work on 2k1, so why not focus on that and actually do something there considering the decline in players has increased since 2k2, and it does need something to attract it to those who do not like the format of 2k2.


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