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Lao_Su2 01-06-2002 02:44 AM

So besides the really cool and good lookign tiles and bodys which i havnt seen yet :-( What else is ur server going to have?

LilbrojX 01-06-2002 03:13 AM

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Originally posted by yoshee15

everything looks great until the head.....its not centered right with the eyes....the guy looks cross-eyed


becuase:
Originally I made the first head, it matched the body perfectly, and gave it amore cartoony anime sd kinda feel, but more realisitic, kinda like when you play chrono trigger.... soul liked it up until now when he realized he had to "fix" everything I made, so he resized the head to make it more realistic and didn't bother to fix the grfical errors caused by the resize... bleh:p

LilbrojX 01-06-2002 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by Lao_Su2
So besides the really cool and good lookign tiles and bodys which i havnt seen yet :-( What else is ur server going to have?
giant robots, huge quest, actualy mayors of villages, owners of dungeons where customize everything and stuff, time travel, etc

LilbrojX 01-06-2002 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by Python523

That tileset is GREAT, BTW: Improving the trees :megaeek: they are the best I have seen already

ha.... soul blade and I are the only 2 people who actually realize how much the trees suck.... right soul?

yoshee15 01-06-2002 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by LilbrojX


ha.... soul blade and I are the only 2 people who actually realize how much the trees suck.... right soul?

no, everyone who has a good graphics taste :p

Faheria_LAT3 01-06-2002 04:34 AM

Starting to look good, still don't like the tree. But everything else is nice.

BlKnight 01-06-2002 04:41 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3
Starting to look good, still don't like the tree. But everything else is nice.
As a matter of fact I already have the new tree trunk. I'm going to get the tree leaves perfect this time though.

BlKnight 01-06-2002 06:36 AM

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Heres the new tree and a few other tiles.

BlKnight 01-06-2002 06:47 AM

I'm going to finish up ganis then I will be able to start integrating things into the game, and thats when things get good. Once at that point it shouldn't be to long before its ready to submit.

Kagero 01-06-2002 06:49 AM

Hey! I realized they sucked too! =P
Wow, the new ones are awesome... What's with the blue parts?

Posted by Cyanide SR71

Khazek 01-06-2002 06:50 AM

Whoa looks like NewWorld........wts woops that one slipped out....
*pulls out a gun and shoots himself*

grim_squeaker_x 01-06-2002 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by BlKnight
Heres the new tree and a very other tiles.
The black and blue part of the tree looks slightly weird, it's a bit too dark... The rest looks nice though, and the character fits in perfectly.

BlKnight 01-06-2002 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by Kagero
Hey! I realized they sucked too! =P
Wow, the new ones are awesome... What's with the blue parts?

Posted by Cyanide SR71

Shading, after I read that little tutorial and remember some art classes it came back to me that shadows should have other colors in it, and dark blue shadows look good with green.

yoshee15 01-06-2002 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by BlKnight
Heres the new tree and a very other tiles.
hmm trunk looks much better, still the leaves don't look so good, better than the others though...and i dislike the bluish under shading

BlKnight 01-06-2002 07:03 AM

The blue shading is what gives it that roundness, I'm telling you, it would look back without it. Maybe not bad, but not as good.

BlKnight 01-06-2002 10:50 AM

After thinking for a while about it, I have decided to rescript movement. It will allow for many, many things, and make lots of stuff much easier. It will be complicated to script, but will be worth it in the end.

LilbrojX 01-06-2002 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by Khazek
Whoa looks like NewWorld........wts woops that one slipped out....
*pulls out a gun and shoots himself*

new world is like, black line, shading, some detail, shading, black line, nothing like this

BlKnight 01-07-2002 10:45 AM

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Here it is, how there chracter is controled. I will show in 2 post, each with a screen.

Here in this screen, it shows you in the "traveling mode". You are in that most of the time. In this mode you can assign commands to D and S such as jump or magics or any other abilities you have. A or course is the action button so you can't assign commands to it. You cannot assign hostile moves to the travel mode. You would assign commands by hitting Q, go down to Assign, then selecting Travel mode. There you will be able to assign D and S.


BlKnight 01-07-2002 10:50 AM

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This screen shows battle mode.

In battle mode you can use your hostile and healing abilities. To switch between Travel mode and Battle mode, you would hit and hold A, the press S. When in battle mode, the only button you can assign is D. A is to block with your shield, and S is to attack. You have more then one attack, and randomly will get critical attacks. Your shield will block you from all attacks except magis, but you can't switch directions while blocking, which means they can come up behind you and hit you. To block you press and hold A as long as you want to block, release A to stop blocking and regain control.

Heh, its kinda hard to explain perfectly, and may seem complicated. Trust me though, its very simple to operate when you actually play.

(Heh and yes, there are different idle and walking ganis, as well as attacking ganis, for different weapons. This will result in...alot of walking/idle ganis.....for those who were wondering ;))

LilbrojX 01-07-2002 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by BlKnight
This screen shows battle mode.

In battle mode you can use your hostile and healing abilities. To switch between Travel mode and Battle mode, you would hit and hold A, the press S. When in battle mode, the only button you can assign is D. A is to block with your shield, and S is to attack. You have more then one attack, and randomly will get critical attacks. Your shield will block you from all attacks except magis, but you can't switch directions while blocking, which means they can come up behind you and hit you. To block you press and hold A as long as you want to block, release A to stop blocking and regain control.

Heh, its kinda hard to explain perfectly, and may seem complicated. Trust me though, its very simple to operate when you actually play.

(Heh and yes, there are different idle and walking ganis, as well as attacking ganis, for different weapons. This will result in...alot of walking/idle ganis.....for those who were wondering ;))

oo, wut head is that?

BlKnight 01-07-2002 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by LilbrojX


oo, wut head is that?

Its the same one you made, only he has a helmet equiped. Didn't I tell you that equipment will completely change looks?

LilbrojX 01-07-2002 01:10 PM

ON A SIDE NOTE:

Soul Blade's an idiot :P I was on a music page, and dido was under alternative (doesn't like dido, only heard 2 of her songs) and I was all, "since when is dido alternative?"

...

and he thought I was looking at pornogrphic material.... lol.......

BlKnight 01-07-2002 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by LilbrojX
ON A SIDE NOTE:

Soul Blade's an idiot :P I was on a music page, and dido was under alternative (doesn't like dido, only heard 2 of her songs) and I was all, "since when is dido alternative?"

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and he thought I was looking at pornogrphic material.... lol.......

Looks like SOMEONE is guilty :-P

LilbrojX 01-07-2002 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by BlKnight


Looks like SOMEONE is guilty :-P

looks like somebody doesn't know who dido is and wut alternative is........... hahahhhaaaahahahahahahaha!!!! c'mon, laugh at soul blade guys!

it's dido, not dildo, sherlock

BlKnight 01-07-2002 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by LilbrojX


looks like somebody doesn't know who dido is and wut alternative is........... hahahhhaaaahahahahahahaha!!!! c'mon, laugh at soul blade guys!

it's dido, not dildo, sherlock

-_-

yoshee15 01-08-2002 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by LilbrojX


looks like somebody doesn't know who dido is and wut alternative is........... hahahhhaaaahahahahahahaha!!!! c'mon, laugh at soul blade guys!

it's dido, not dildo, sherlock

haha he thougt dido was dildo

Cyber-X 01-08-2002 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by yoshee15

haha he thougt dido was dildo

This is an example that how Graal make the people NERDs and without contact with the World ;)
Except people with QI over 150 like I am :p

Faheria_LAT3 01-08-2002 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Cyber-X


This is an example that how Graal make the people NERDs and without contact with the World ;)
Except people with QI over 150 like I am :p

Hmm, I'm not familiar with QI. Does it stand for Questionable Inteligence? :rolleyes:

WHIPENIE4 01-08-2002 02:13 AM

lol ,

Did you make your own heads ?? cause they look a little smaller than the regular ones.....

im not sure if this question was already answered...

Waltz5 01-08-2002 03:18 AM

That is the best Tileset I've ever seen.
The Map is awesome.

LilbrojX 01-08-2002 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by WHIPENIE4
lol ,

Did you make your own heads ?? cause they look a little smaller than the regular ones.....

im not sure if this question was already answered...


we made our own everything :p

BlKnight 01-08-2002 07:10 AM

Yup everything is ours...and if I make a nice, efficient movement system we will have even more stuff. But my skills in script are weak in onwall stuff...so I don't know. But we will find other ways, it will be good...we almost have all the system NPCs (which are the treasure from Murasamune, what we been working on basicly, and the numerous tilesets). So, maybe 2 weeks we will be pretty far into levels (which means all system NPCs done) and thats when the fun begins. So I would honestly say, in a month, 2 at most, we will be ready to submit...still even then we will be UC (with or without the symbol, either way we have lots of work to do).

DeathChill 01-08-2002 07:17 AM

Really aesome the character looks good with armor from the side I think but the front looks like he's falling back :/
and I think the body needs black edges (aswell as the head) but otherwise that's an AWESOME lookign server..Hopefully you finish this time becaue I know I'll be playing there :) Are you also going to change the ASD button GFX,ap,etc? Like maybe evenm rescript a new system for AP and the buttons and such (maybe? :O) so they fit in?And what will the life system be like?Will it be the graal hearts or HP bars or what?

LilbrojX 01-08-2002 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill
Really aesome the character looks good with armor from the side I think but the front looks like he's falling back :/
and I think the body needs black edges (aswell as the head) but otherwise that's an AWESOME lookign server..Hopefully you finish this time becaue I know I'll be playing there :) Are you also going to change the ASD button GFX,ap,etc? Like maybe evenm rescript a new system for AP and the buttons and such (maybe? :O) so they fit in?And what will the life system be like?Will it be the graal hearts or HP bars or what?

yeah, we got lotsa neato stuff, the whole ASD thing will be completely different.... (can't realease that info right now)....

about the black edges, soul blade doesn't like them, that's how his style is, so you won't be seeing them on mura... sorry man

BlKnight 01-08-2002 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill
Really aesome the character looks good with armor from the side I think but the front looks like he's falling back :/
and I think the body needs black edges (aswell as the head) but otherwise that's an AWESOME lookign server..Hopefully you finish this time becaue I know I'll be playing there :) Are you also going to change the ASD button GFX,ap,etc? Like maybe evenm rescript a new system for AP and the buttons and such (maybe? :O) so they fit in?And what will the life system be like?Will it be the graal hearts or HP bars or what?


Isn't it obvious that all that will be changed? But you see, I'm leaving the easy parts for last. That ASD thing and everything is very easy..but yes, we will change EVERYTHING.

As for the HP system, well thats what it is, the HP system. Haven't completely decided that part yet, but I have the stats and everything scripted. Just not the level up system...but I will see how I will do that. I'm thinking of maybe a bounty system, if a PKer kills many, then hes worth lots of experiance. Maybe at a certain building it shows everyone with the highest bounty on them, and maybe even a cash reward if you get the highest.

Then the monster system...will be very complicated. I can't work on it yet, because thats one thing I need the NPC server for...basicly, they will have there own stats. Gain levels, everything...they will even kill each other and stuff. Its kind of like the explanation of how those big boss monsters come around...once a monster gets strong enough, he would be like a mini boss, very ahrd to kill. And while trying to kill it, you may die, making it even stronger...the rewards would be great, though, alot of experiance and treasure.

As for the death system, basicly there will be save points throughout the whole server. When you "save", you get warped back to the save point when you die, and you loose experiance (maybe 1/4th, not sure yet). Also, when you reconnect, you get warped back to that save point. A way to stop people from cheating a many different way, and make it alot funner. There will be many save points though.

DeathChill 01-08-2002 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by LilbrojX


yeah, we got lotsa neato stuff, the whole ASD thing will be completely different.... (can't realease that info right now)....

about the black edges, soul blade doesn't like them, that's how his style is, so you won't be seeing them on mura... sorry man

lol oh well they're still awesome :)

LilbrojX 01-08-2002 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by BlKnight



Isn't it obvious that all that will be changed? But you see, I'm leaving the easy parts for last. That ASD thing and everything is very easy..but yes, we will change EVERYTHING.

As for the HP system, well thats what it is, the HP system. Haven't completely decided that part yet, but I have the stats and everything scripted. Just not the level up system...but I will see how I will do that. I'm thinking of maybe a bounty system, if a PKer kills many, then hes worth lots of experiance. Maybe at a certain building it shows everyone with the highest bounty on them, and maybe even a cash reward if you get the highest.

Then the monster system...will be very complicated. I can't work on it yet, because thats one thing I need the NPC server for...basicly, they will have there own stats. Gain levels, everything...they will even kill each other and stuff. Its kind of like the explanation of how those big boss monsters come around...once a monster gets strong enough, he would be like a mini boss, very ahrd to kill. And while trying to kill it, you may die, making it even stronger...the rewards would be great, though, alot of experiance and treasure.

As for the death system, basicly there will be save points throughout the whole server. When you "save", you get warped back to the save point when you die, and you loose experiance (maybe 1/4th, not sure yet). Also, when you reconnect, you get warped back to that save point. A way to stop people from cheating a many different way, and make it alot funner. There will be many save points though.


..... but....... wut........ about......but......monster.....I thought....... but..... oh well............:o

BlKnight 01-08-2002 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by LilbrojX



..... but....... wut........ about......but......monster.....I thought....... but..... oh well............:o


eh? (no I;m not from Canadia)

Dlaiyre 01-08-2002 05:58 PM

Man that took a long time to read everything :o

But it was worth the 5 mins, i am a GFX newbie but i dont understand why you didn't use Darker green/black rather than blue/black :eek:

Good work guys ;) :)

BlKnight 01-09-2002 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by Dlaiyre
Man that took a long time to read everything :o

But it was worth the 5 mins, i am a GFX newbie but i dont understand why you didn't use Darker green/black rather than blue/black :eek:

Good work guys ;) :)


For a few reasons...one being that is what everyone sees as common.

two is, well, a natural shadow wouldn't be black, it wouldn't just shade over green. The blue gives it alot more..well roundness, and it gives it a nice unique effect. I for one really like it, then only thing which needs improvement is the treetrunk, but those are easy.


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