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WhiteDragon 10-13-2009 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1529844)
But tasty nonetheless. Graal, on the other hand, is a laughable joke in the state it's in. Seriously, I showed two of my friends the login and Zodiac just to see their reactions and it was hilarious.



Exactly, start with the client itself because I can guarantee the site will go to waste if the game isn't fixed. Once you atleast have an attractive client that will leave a good impression, then launch a nice site to go hand-in-hand with it.

So basically we're just making a new game.

Tigairius 10-13-2009 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1529844)
But tasty nonetheless. Graal, on the other hand, is a laughable joke in the state it's in. Seriously, I showed two of my friends the login and Zodiac just to see their reactions and it was hilarious.



Exactly, start with the client itself because I can guarantee the site will go to waste if the game isn't fixed. Once you atleast have an attractive client that will leave a good impression, then launch a nice site to go hand-in-hand with it.

Well, currently I have someone working on a new theme for the login screen to make it more of a graal look and something more interesting. I will see if I can eventually remake the entire login screen to make it more interesting.

As far as interesting servers go, yes, that's true, but right now, our best bet to get more interest in the game is to create a more attractive website and try to move away from the current marketing plan in my opinion. The game should be free and then you should be able to purchase in-game items (as it was said earlier in the thread). If we can do that + create/fix the servers to have some nice content, we would be rolling in the right direction. One step at a time right now though, and the easiest & most practical step is to build a new website to boost developer morale and maybe even attract a new player or two.
I mean, everyone has been trying to make a nice server for years now; obviously that's not working out so well, there is no one server on Graal that's attracting massive amounts of players, so we'll take this approach right now.

Crono 10-13-2009 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDragon (Post 1529845)
So basically we're just making a new game.

No, I'm referring to the login screen and serverlist really.

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Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1529846)
Well, currently I have someone working on a new theme for the login screen to make it more of a graal look and something more interesting. I will see if I can eventually remake the entire login screen to make it more interesting.

I'm hopping that whatever interface and site are planned share a common theme.

Tigairius 10-13-2009 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1529847)
I'm hopping that whatever interface and site are planned share a common theme.

Of course it does :D

Hiro 10-13-2009 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDragon (Post 1529845)
So basically we're just making a new game.

more like new content for the current game

Rice2k 10-13-2009 06:55 PM

I really don't like the graalonline.com web site it reminds me of a scamming web sites or a web site that just trying to make money. The only graalonline.com web site i ever did prefer was the one with the wizard in the right hand corner. im pretty sure play count was up when that layout of the site was on here.

Spark910 10-13-2009 08:01 PM

I skipped two pages. Realistically, I'm not sure we need a new website per se. Can we not use an old version and update it, a version where the design wasn't so bright?

It'd save a lot of work and get us to, arguably, a better place - considering I don't recall too many people in favour of the current design/website.

Perhaps you could get approval for such a project, get people who know how to edit websites (perhaps from the GDT pool) then proceed to update it before presenting it to the powers than be for approval.

You wouldn't need serious design skills as there are many acceptable parts that could be reused in an edited design making the project more about layout and updating the content than creating new things.

The biggest issue with the current website is that no one can be bothered to update it. It's a success in that it doesn't need maintaining but that lack of effort is perhaps also bouncing potential players/developers away.

LoneAngelIbesu 10-13-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1529849)
Of course it does :D

Why are we asking people to create a website without showing what the new game interface would look like? :\

Tigairius 10-13-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu (Post 1530002)
Why are we asking people to create a website without showing what the new game interface would look like? :\

Because I already said the theme of the website should be green, and I am willing to have the new interface created/changed based on the way the website turns out.

Rufus 10-13-2009 10:09 PM

So.. who is going to make it?

LoneAngelIbesu 10-13-2009 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1530020)
So.. who is going to make it?

Anybody interested, I'm assuming. It's kind of like a contest... maybe.

Rufus 10-13-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu (Post 1530048)
Anybody interested, I'm assuming. It's kind of like a contest... maybe.

Well I haven't really seen anyone saying they're going to make anything yet; just wondered if anyone was interested.

Vima 10-18-2009 08:48 PM

Yeah... How is it going?
Have everyone lost hope in Graal? =/
Elk? You there? ... someone??

Rufus 10-21-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1530020)
So.. who is going to make it?

Bump.

Tigairius 10-21-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1532717)
Bump.

That's what we're still trying to decide. I'll keep you posted (or not, if we can't find anyone to help).

Imperialistic 10-21-2009 10:43 PM

I'm really good friends with a guy on Unholy Nation, that I don't believe visits the forums that does Website Design and ect. Not sure if you know him (Red aka nightslayer317).

I will try to talk to him and send him a link to this thread.

Rufus 10-21-2009 11:27 PM

So.. does anyone want to make it?

Crimson2005 10-21-2009 11:31 PM

I'm trying to pay attention, I don't get what you're trying to say. Explain it better for **** sake. I thought I was making a valid point.

Draenin 10-21-2009 11:33 PM

I didn't even know this was going on. I'll let ya know if I come up with anything. I'm not too savvy with SQL or web 2.0 stuff, but if you just need a template, I can give it a shot.

Darlene159 10-21-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005 (Post 1532984)
I'm trying to pay attention, I don't get what you're trying to say. Explain it better for **** sake. I thought I was making a valid point.

Seriously....
If someone wants to make one, it will get made, if not, it will get made when the administration makes it.

Imperialistic 10-21-2009 11:34 PM

Like I said, I'm going to ask my friend, but uhm this thread is ruined due to the excessive deletions.

Hiro 10-21-2009 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005 (Post 1532984)
I'm trying to pay attention, I don't get what you're trying to say. Explain it better for **** sake. I thought I was making a valid point.

not in their opinion :cry:

Rufus 10-21-2009 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1532985)
I didn't even know this was going on. I'll let ya know if I come up with anything. I'm not too savvy with SQL or web 2.0 stuff, but if you just need a template, I can give it a shot.

Looking forward to seeing it. I don't think they'll anything other than a design though, I assume they've got a lot of stuff that can't be integrated by just any old person.

Darlene159 10-21-2009 11:52 PM

This is the topic of this thread:

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Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1529220)
So... everyone knows the website is confusing, unhelpful, and is very poorly marketing Graal.

I am going out on a limb by posting this; but I believe it's completely necessary. Graal is, without a doubt, losing business because of this website.

I will reward (and try to get rewards from Stefan) anyone who builds a nice website template. If you are trying to build one and get stuck, you can post it on here and get some help with it.

Basically, I think a template of a website would be nice, for example; just place a text box for "Account" and a textbox for "Password" that wouldn't actually do anything; the rest could be done by unixmad/stefan at a later date.

I don't have much approval for this project, but I hope that if we can design a decent template then everyone will see the light and understand the reasoning for why we need a new website.

This is a great opportunity for members of the GDT, but anyone is open to the project.

Post in this thread if you want to help, otherwise....DONT POST

Rufus 10-21-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1533005)
Post in this thread if you want to help, otherwise....DONT POST

What if I wanna ask questions?

Darlene159 10-21-2009 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1533007)
What if I wanna ask questions?

Then ask, but not "so why should we have to do it?" or anything related to that.

Rufus 10-21-2009 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1533009)
Then ask, but not "so why should we have to do it?" or anything related to that.

Oh, is that against the rules? :(

Darlene159 10-21-2009 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1533010)
Oh, is that against the rules? :(

In this thread, yes. !pissed!

Crimson2005 10-21-2009 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1533009)
Then ask, but not "so why should we have to do it?" or anything related to that.

Don't think anyone will ask that, we now know it's left to the players or it won't get made =x

Sam 10-22-2009 12:01 AM

To make it clear: all posts to provoke, argue and off the topic "new website" (as stated by Tig) in this thread results in a ban.

DarkCloud_PK 10-22-2009 05:08 PM

While I agree that the players shouldn't have to do things like this to help their online game, and that they can't support or fix the big problems presently challenging the future of it. I do hope anyone who has the skills and the interest to complete this project, does so.
It is one of the many things that needs to get done to start bringing in more new players to replenish the community.

Imperialistic 10-26-2009 09:28 PM

Jeff and I will be working on a new template!

Jeff is a website designer and I'm just there for some minor graphics maybe and for opinions.

I think we want to make a welcoming/eye candy, GraalOnline "related" template that has to deal with the game, instead of having a spectrum of colors such as pink and blue O_O.

Tigairius 10-26-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Imperialistic (Post 1534249)
Jeff and I will be working on a new template!

Cool, keep us posted :D

Imperialistic 10-26-2009 09:49 PM

I'm going to start making a few headers and seeing which one is best.

I've only made one so far:

(NOT GUARENTEED TO BE USED relax kids)

Oh ya and btw, Haven't added the text yet lelelelel

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...testheader.jpg


**UPDATE** Made another one:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...estheader2.jpg

DuBsTeRmAn 10-27-2009 12:18 AM

I guess that is just the header for Graal Kingdoms?
Looking nice

Imperialistic 10-27-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1534299)
I guess that is just the header for Graal Kingdoms?
Looking nice

No,
Right now I'm going to create a header for Graal in general. Those represent the "general" header.

[email protected] 10-27-2009 12:50 AM

I don't like it... it's not Graal? It's not bad- but it just doesn't say Graal to me?


http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=79494


http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...6&d=1209125907

I'm thinking more along these lines. Those are nice!

Darlene159 10-27-2009 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 1534306)
I don't like it... it's not Graal? It's not bad- but it just doesn't say Graal to me?


http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=79494


http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...6&d=1209125907

I'm thinking more along these lines. Those are nice!

I love that second one.

I would like a header that shows classic, and gold.

cbk1994 10-27-2009 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Imperialistic (Post 1534261)

I really like this one.

alskdjfhg 10-27-2009 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 1534306)
I don't like it... it's not Graal? It's not bad- but it just doesn't say Graal to me?


http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=79494


http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...6&d=1209125907

I'm thinking more along these lines. Those are nice!

Pretty cool!


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