They left because they never wanted to adjust. They're not going to come back because Classic after 4 years has something that UN has already and not a whole lot else. If we had default HD like UN, people would still play UN. HD complaints were relevant in the past, but now its just an excuse to not play classic because it isn't as fun. They didn't come back for clientside HD, they aren't going to come back for a slightly better default HD, don't kid yourself. Until Classic has something to offer OVER other servers, we're not going to see a decent player count.

Despite playing events rarely, I still have no problem handling european players. They can hit me a little bit later, I can hit them a little bit earlier. Definitely not 3 tiles, as you continue to exagerate.(unless your ping is like 600-700ms, if so, sucks for you) I prehit Rufus and Kill and Xaphan regularly. One way or another, theres no sync, and these inconsistencies will occur.

As far as I know, we have to pick our poison:

Get occasionally reached by euros on serverside.
OR
Have your hits occasionally not hit on clientside.

On either HD, you can obviously adjust; but only to a certain level. If the HD just isn't recording some of your hits, no amount of adjustment will help. If the HD simply gives the euros an occasional tile reach, no amount of early swinging will save you all the time. Occasionally you will either get reached or have some of your hits not hit.

From there, its a personal decision. Personally, I'd rather have my efforts rewarded with a hit when I hit someone. I can deal with an occasional reach. Perhaps others feel the same. Perhaps others feel differently. No matter which way we go with these two HDs, someone will not be happy.

From top of the list down I seen; You, Racil, WD, Elk, Kat, Ben, and Clel

i was totally on client and not idle

They left because we currently have some stupid HD that the people who had the advantage on it fought for it to be put back. Default is clearly the only HD anyone will admire the most.

Are you forgetting the part about the HD affecting most things on Classic? Events? Sparring? PK? I'm not sure what more you can offer that doesnt require the swing of your sword as much (Except the card game that is).

I've been hit 2-3 tiles away numerous times. My ping averages 200-250 MS all the time and I can't help that it's like that. We played about 2 CTF's yesterday where i was reach hit by the Europeans a massive amount of times as well as other players. Serverside HD is not accurate at all to the players screens if your ping is high and just messes up your whole strategy. I don't know when to time myself, when to hit or anything because the fate of me being hit depends on my ping, which changes recursively. I just have to run like a rabbit and hope luck falls on my side with the hits. Serverside HD screws over 90 percent of the players now because we all lag. It just doesn't seem fair at all. Yeah, quite a bit of the Classic people want it back, but that's because they been on this HD for 4 years and bear no knowledge of accurately hitting from the looks of their complaints.

@Gladius: You still seem not to consider the fact of accurately hitting people. Yes your hits might not count, maybe it's because 90 percent of the people who play Classic LAG. Remember the server move to Europe? Different Story for the clientside HD had the server been in USA. Yes, both HD's screw us over but at least i want to know when I'm hit rather than knowing 3 tiles away.

:rolleyes:

In serverside, I can swing in front of laggers and have a decent chance of hitting them.
In clientside, I can swing in front of laggers and the chance to hit them goes down b/c it might or might not hit them on their screen.

The thing is, laggers are always a tile or two in front of where they appear. Yes? But in ctf, sparring, and pking, people don't move in straight lines. Flag runners or sparrers tend to change directions when they find themselves in a bad position. If a lagger is going one way, I'll try to swing in front of him. But sometimes they had already changed directions before I swung. I didn't know/see that however, because their movements appear a split second slower on my screen than theirs. This occurs on either HD. The difference is, I find, that with serverside my hits still might count b/c I saw them being hit (even if they weren't there exactly). With clientside, the hit might not count as often b/c they didn't see themselves get hit.

Thats the difference I find, which is why I like serverside.